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Post by thebtskink on Sept 16, 2019 21:48:47 GMT -5
Great, I'm all ears. But why are you pitting that in this thread?
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Post by 1godzillafan on Nov 10, 2019 20:30:15 GMT -5
Charlies Angels
Pilot Movie and Season 1 - Part 1
Charlie’s Angels - When a wealthy vineyard owner goes missing and is presumed dead, an investigative team headed by a mysterious man named Charlie sends his three lady PI’s on the case: Sabrina, Jill, and Kelly, as well as Charlie’s assistant Bosley. Kelly poses as the long lost heir to the fortune, and together the Angels devise a plan to trick the suspects into unearthing the body and exposing them as murderers.
Hellride - After a female stock car racer dies in a fiery wreck, foul play is suspected. Sabrina poses as a new driver on the track while Jill, Kelly, and Bosley do some snooping to find out what happened.
The Mexican Connection - When an airplane is hijacked and crashed, Charlie suspects a link to heroine smugglers in Mexico. The Angels infiltrate the suspect’s operation, with Jill getting close by posing as the suspect’s daughter’s swimming instructor, and search for a link between him and the drugs and, hopefully, find a way to get him to cross the border so they can arrest him.
Night of the Strangler - A fashion model is murdered by strangulation, but all the key suspects have alibis for the time of the murder. The victim bears a striking resemblance to Kelly, so Charlie and Bosley have Kelly and Jill pose as new models for the agency, hoping the similarity between Kelly and the victim may cause the killer to slip up.
Full disclosure, I have never seen the Charlie’s Angels TV show before. I had seen the original McG movie and I remember hating it. Since the new Charlie’s Angels movie was coming out, I watched that movie again and discovered that I was right for hating it. Whew boy, is that movie a stinker. Because I hate myself, I watched the sequel immediately afterward out of morbid curiosity, which I had never seen. I heard it was worse, but honestly…I can’t tell how. They’re both the same.
But I had never seen the show. I think my dislike of the movies threw me off, so it took me ages to actually give it a chance. I saw that the show was for free on the IMDB app, so I started working through episodes during my lunch break at work (after Mill Creek’s Spree service crapped out on me after two episodes of Ultra Q). I had far less strong impressions of the series than I did of the movies. It’s a fairly basic crime drama of the period (compared to McG’s films, which seem to be a poorly thought out parody fused within a flashy action movie). Maybe not too well written, but a lot of them were goofy like this, so I can’t dock too many points for that.
Charlie’s Angels is an interesting franchise in its aim. The series centers on three very beautiful women who count on being underestimated by men, but then it contradicts itself by turning men into the target audience. The men watching the show don’t care that the men are constantly made fools of or one-upped by the women who are one step ahead, they tune in because the ladies aren’t half bad to look at. So it’s a show that’s squarely in male gaze territory, but its about characters who use male gaze to their advantage. That’s some fourth wall shit right there.
But being male, if I were to comment on the male gaze aspects, I had always known Farrah Fawcett was pretty much THE sex symbol of the show, but I profess that my personal taste leans more toward her co-stars Kate Jackson and Jaclyn Smith, but I’ve always had a thing for brunettes. Sexualization of the Angels themselves is actually surprisingly rare. They’ll put on a lovely outfit or a bikini, but the series does seem intent on letting them be more than “dem bewbs” and “dat ass” and the leads handle their roles with a lot of grace. The more objectified women are usually extras, often at the expense of innuendos by Charlie. I’m almost impressed with the show’s restraint in regards to its reputation, but it still does dig itself into a hole at times, because it’s clearly a show about “capable women” written by men, so it has to be a man’s idea of capable women, i.e. they look nice and kick a lot of ass.
As for the stories themselves, they don’t really stand out in the vastness of 70’s crime TV. Like a lot of shows at the time, you’re watching because of the talent onscreen or the characters you like, not because the show is doing anything particularly original. There are plenty of shows from the period that had episodes exactly like the ones that I watched. Maybe even better. Something I felt while watching these first four episodes was that I think this show would have benefited from a mystery format. Usually as soon as the Angels take a case we’re treated to a scene where the villains explain their dastardly deed immediately afterward, which reduces the tension of the episode to simply whether or not the Angels will get caught snooping around. The one exception to this is the fourth episode, Night of the Strangler. This was probably the best episode of this batch because the audience doesn’t learn who the killer is until the Angels do, with a few good red herrings and groovy twists along the way. It has it’s downsides, particularly a scene where Sabrina is nearly raped which she laughs about moments later (she then claims the only person who is allowed to rape her is Robert Redford, which is a total YIKES line), but the intent of the route this episode is going down is the right direction, I feel.
I kinda like it. I’ll probably watch some more. That is unless the new movie kills what interest I have in the franchise, but let’s live in the moment and see what trouble the Angels stir.
Also, the pilot had Tommy Lee Jones in it. If I had known that, I would have watched this show ages ago.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 10, 2019 22:08:34 GMT -5
Boy... where’s my Little Mermaid Live review???!!!
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Post by 1godzillafan on Nov 10, 2019 22:19:59 GMT -5
Boy... where’s my Little Mermaid Live review???!!! I have too much Charlie's Angels to watch.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 10, 2019 22:34:36 GMT -5
Boy... where’s my Little Mermaid Live review???!!! I have too much Charlie's Angels to watch. !!!!!!
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Post by 1godzillafan on Nov 13, 2019 11:26:30 GMT -5
Star Trek: Discovery
Season 2 - Part 1
Brother - After the USS Enterprise is damaged on a mission, Captain Christopher Pike takes command of the Discovery to complete Enterprise's investigation of seven red signals that had led to the crippling of the ship. While investigating the last one, the Discovery crew find the downed vessel USS Hiawatha, to which Pike and Commander Bernham lead a team to rescue possible survivors.
New Eden - Investigating another signal, the Discovery uncovers a human colony of religious human settlers on an unknown planet. The planet is in great danger when an anomaly puts the planet directly in the course of a radiation shower.
Point of Light - Ash Tyler now assists L'Rell in keeping the peace on the Klingon home world of Qo'noS, but find their tempering of the Klingon race in jeopardy when other leaders threaten insurrection. Meanwhile, Ensign Tilly is seeing visions of a childhood friend that she knows to be dead, who is leading a "mission" and has "plans" for Tilly. Also, Bernham and her adopted mother Amanda Grayson search for Bernham's foster brother and Amanda's son Spock, who has escaped a psychiatric unit treating him for recurring nightmares, and is wanted for the murder of three doctors.
An Obel for Charon - A mysterious alien sphere tangles the Discovery in its pull and weird things begin happening upon the ship. Commander Saru finds that the sphere has triggered his death cycle, the Vahar'ai, and struggles to help the crew with the potential threat before he dies. Meanwhile, engineers Paul Stamets and Jet Reno study the fungal symbiote that is still trying to bond with Tilly.
Myself and several of my friends are pretty big Star Trek fans, and we watched the entirety of the first season of Discovery as it aired on CBS All Access. However, when the second season premiered and made its run, one of them had just had a baby and we weren't able to hold our weekly "Star Trek viewing," because she was the biggest fan among us and not having her along was unthinkable. So if we weren't watching Discovery, then I dropped the app for a period. I still need to check out the new Twilight Zone, which will inevitably happen at some point.
Rather than catching up on All Access, we decided to wait until the blu-ray release, which came out yesterday. Of course, she told the rest of us to "come over immediately!" and we binged straight through the first four episodes. Be warned, some of these episodes were screened through the lens of screaming children averaging five years old or less. If I missed details, I apologize.
I thought Discovery's first season was one of the more consistently good first seasons a Trek show had ever had. The original series and Deep Space Nine (mostly) probably have a leg up on it, but I enjoyed that first season quite a lot. But it's also been a while, and my memory is a little hazy. While waiting for my friends to put up another free night, I might go through the first season again as a refresher course. I do remember the bitch fests from whiny fans about it being "not Star Trek enough," and don't know if those complaints are still being tossed around, because if I have any issue with this second season it's that it may be too Star Trek. I appreciate the continuation of episodic storylines that snowball into a serial narrative, which I think lets Discovery stand out in Trek lore, though some of the individual storylines are starting to feel a bit familiar. New Eden especially feels like quite a few Trek episodes from series' past, while other episodes seem to borrow a bit from them as well. This always seemed to be the major complaint point of Enterprise, which seemingly got torn apart at every turn way back when. Discovery's identity may be in crisis.
But it's in a damned if you do, damned if you don't position. If it stayed the course of the previous season, it would continue to be "not Star Trek," but if it reverts to what Star Trek was then it's "not different enough." I'm in the camp where I'd rather see it explore some new avenues, whether it's "Star Trek" or not. Give me something interesting. I have the other shows if I want something familiar.
But we'll see where it goes. I still like most of the characters. I like Saru and Bernham, and Tilly is just adorably enthusiastic, while Michelle Yeoh continues to be a scene stealer as Georgiou. Anson Mount is a wonderful addition as Pike, picking up the baton from Jeffery Hunter and Bruce Greenwood. I'm wondering if the captain of the Discovery position is turning into the Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher in Harry Potter, where it's a different person every season. I anticipate at some point Bernham is going to be promoted to that rank and take command, but until then it's kind of fun. I like Discovery overall, but I just may be anticipating Star Trek: Picard just that much more than further episodes.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Nov 14, 2019 12:40:22 GMT -5
Star Trek: Discovery
Season 2 - Part 2
Saints of Imperfection - The symbiote takes Tilly into the mycelial network, where "May" tells her she needs her help to destroy a "monster." Stamets and Burnham convince Pike to do a half jump with Discovery so they can open a doorway to retrieve her, but once there make a shocking discovery.
The Sound of Thunder - Another red signal appears that leads the Discovery to Keminar, Saru's home world, where he reunites with his sister. While investigating, Keminar's native dominate species, the Ba'ul, learn that Discovery has a Kelpian officer on board that has survived Vahar'ai, and insist Saru is turned over to them for execution. The Discovery then investigates the history of the Ba'ul and the Kelpians and discover their relationship is built upon a lie.
Light and Shadows - Continuing to search for Spock, Bernham visits Vulcan to consult with Sarek and Amanda Grayson, but finds that Amanda has been harboring Spock, who is raving like a madman about a similar series of numbers. Bernham debates Spock's future with Sarek and Amanda. Meanwhile, Pike and Tyler investigate a time anomaly, and are attacked by an evolved version of the probe they sent in.
If Memory Serves - On the run from Section 31, Bernham uses Spock's coordinates to travel to Talos IV, a forbidden planet where Spock and Pike met a beautiful woman named Vina and an advanced race that can create illusions. Vina and the Talosians help Bernham heal Spock's mind in return for her memories of her scarred relationship with her foster brother.
If the first four episodes reminded me of Star Trek in a somewhat bad way, these four reminded me of it in a better way. There are episodes I think echo previous Star Trek adventures while telling their own story, which turn out to be very compelling on their own. The Sound of Thunder is probably a consideration from me for favorite of the series, with a few reservations. This is like one of those episodes Next Generation or Deep Space Nine would do that would take a character we only know verbal stories about and take them home, where they're expanded upon exponentially. It's a great watch, but it slightly goes a tad off the rails in the third act. Since the episode was so keen on hiding the Ba'ul for a long time, I had suspected that the Ba'ul were actually the Kelpians who had already passed Vahar'ai, and they had simply evolved into a more advanced civilization as a way of their culture. I don't want to knock the episode for not following my fan theory (I hate it when people do that), though the climax is almost disappointingly basic by comparison. We finally see a member of the Ba'ul race, and he's some sort of strange tar man who kind of looks like a sludgy version of Sadako from Ringu, and he is certainly not a Kelpian. I'm not entirely sure J-horror vibe they're going for with the Ba'ul works for the legacy they built up for the species, but it's something different, that's for sure. Then Discovery forces evolution upon all Kelpian inhabitants to force the Ba'ul to coexist, which I'm not entirely certain but may violate Starfleet regulations against interfering with civilizations (this storyline brings to mind Dear Doctor from Enterprise a little bit, though not as cerebral). But I don't think this is the only time Star Trek may be guilty of this, so I'll probably let it slide. I'd just have to watch 700 other episodes to make sure.
There is also If Memory Serves, which reminded me of those fourth season episodes of Enterprise that would have tie-ins to future Trek lore, and seeing this episode sequelize The Cage so directly made the nerds of our group squeal with glee. Just seeing "Previously on Star Trek" and seeing clips from the episode was enough to make my nerd senses tingle. It was fun to see original Trek co-exist with modern redesigns of Talosians and recasting of characters like Spock, Pike, and Vina, reminding us all of this fifty year old legacy.
Though speaking of recasting, while I like Anson Mount as Pike, I'm less thrilled Ethan Peck as Spock. His voice is a little too deep and heavy for me to associate him with the character. I actually learned later on that Peck is the grandson of Gregory Peck, which explains his vocal chords. Still, it would have been neat to have seen Zachary Quinto reprise the role, since he always echoed the character better than seen on this show.
Plus his shaggy, Beatles hair and hipster beard look stupid.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Nov 16, 2019 12:53:43 GMT -5
Star Trek: Discovery
Season 2 - Part 3
Project Daedelus - The crew of the Discovery begin to suspect that Spock has been framed by Section 31 and Control, and Pike suspects that Tyler has been leaking Section 31 information on their mission. But the molehunt has him looking in the wrong place, as cybernetic Starfleet officer Airiam has been infected by a virus from the future and has turned on them.
The Red Angel - Tilly discovers that a bio-neural scan of the Red Angel comes up as a match for Michael Burnham, leading the crew to believe that the Red Angel is actually Burnham from the future guiding them. They then devise a plan to use Burnham as bait to capture the Red Angel for questioning.
Perpetual Infinity - The Discovery crew discover that the Red Angel is actually Michael Burnham's birth mother, Dr. Gabrielle Burnham. Now captured, Gabrielle warns Discovery about the sphere's data they had downloaded, and how if it falls into the hands of Control, it will lead to the destruction of all life in the universe.
One thing I do enjoy about Star Trek episodes is when they seemingly focus on a random background character, in in Discovery's case they decide to focus on one of the more eye-catching crew members on the bridge, a lady character who looks like she's mostly machine. I always found he a weird inclusion, since if I'm remembering correctly that Data was the first artificial intelligence inducted into Starfleet (could be wrong). Turns out Airiam was actually once human, then at some point she was turned into a cyborg. I would have liked to learn more about her character, but alas, it doesn't look like she will be in the series going forward. I imagine that make-up was probably brutal though.
As for the Red Angel focused episodes, revelations were interesting and plot elements get pushed forward. I'm intrigued where the story is going to go, though overall I might like this season less than the first season so far, though there have been a couple standout episodes. We probably won't get to watch the final three until next week sometime, but maybe I'll go back and watch the first season in the meantime.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Nov 20, 2019 20:26:20 GMT -5
Star Trek: Discovery
Season 1 - Part 1
The Vulcan Hello - A decade before the events of the original series (and one hundred years after the events of Star Trek: Enterprise), the USS Shenzhau encounters a group of hostile Klingons led by T'Kuvma, who is hellbent on uniting the Klingon Empire in a war against the Federation. Captain Philippa Georgiou and her First Officer Commander Michael Bernham have intense disagreements on how to handle the situation, forcing Bernham to take harsh measures.
Battle at the Binary Stars - Bernham is thrown in the brig for mutiny, as Georgiou continues to try and negotiate with the Klingons. As the Shenzhau takes heavy damage, Bernham escapes the brig and pleads with Georgiou to capture T'Kuvma alive and turn him into a symbol of disgrace.
Context is for Kings - Six months after the death of Georgiou, the Federation and the Klingon Empire is at war and Bernham has been given a life imprisonment sentence for her mutiny. During a prison transfer, Bernham's transport is forced to take haven on the science Starship USS Discovery. Put to work by the ship's captain, Gabriel Lorca, Burnham becomes curious of the Discovery's secret experiment involving alien spores.
The Butcher's Knife Cares Not for the Lamb's Cry - Burnham believes that an alien creature they salvaged from the wreckage of the USS Glenn is the secret to controlling the spores and getting the Discovery's jump drive functional. The crew races against time to get it working to rescue a mining colony from the Klingons.
I went back and watched a few episodes from the first season while I waited for my friends to give the okay to watching the last batch of season two (which should be tonight). So far I'm going to stand by my assessment that I enjoyed the first season more than the second, though I find both seasons pretty solid Trek seasons.
The one thing I will note about these first four episode is that it's amost as if Discovery has two pilots. The first two episodes are more of a prologue than anything, as it mostly sets up the characters of Bernham and Saru, as well as the Klingon war setting. Another Star Trek series would probably explain all of this in exposition, or a five minute section before the opening credits. Discovery gets a bit more into the dirt than that, which is probably just an excuse to get the series more action focused. I have no problem with a Star Trek series carving a distinct identity though. And if I ever want all of those diplomatic talks and table meetings, I always have TNG to go back to.
Once we get to Context is for Kings, it almost feels like the show is resetting. We're given new characters that will serve as our main cast, and given new scientific ideas to explore. It doesn't feel like a brand new show, but it's not exactly in full swing yet. But I love the touch and feel aspect of exploration in these episodes, as the characters are introduced to the spores and they discover something new and game changing about them with each episode.
But while I hope to get through the last run of season two tonight, I have to deal with reality soon in the upcoming weeks, so I'm not sure when I'll finish season one. I won't go into details, but hopefully I'll be back up and running in full steam in a few months.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Nov 22, 2019 12:30:59 GMT -5
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Post by 1godzillafan on Nov 29, 2019 16:08:45 GMT -5
I'm not familiar with that show, but I do remember the episode of Diff'rent Strokes where the bike shop owner tries to get Gary Coleman to pose for child porn.
I also remember that episode ended with Willis claiming his big stigma takeaway from the entire situation was that the bike shop owner was "gay."
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I'm not familiar with that show, but I do remember the episode of Diff'rent Strokes where the bike shop owner tries to get Gary Coleman to pose for child porn. I also remember that episode ended with Willis claiming his big stigma takeaway from the entire situation was that the bike shop owner was "gay."
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Post by 1godzillafan on Dec 28, 2019 11:40:45 GMT -5
Star Trek: Discovery
Season 2 - Part 4
Through the Valley of the Shadows - When a Red Signal appears above a Klingon monastery housing a time crystal, and also the son of Tyler and L'Rell. Pike leads a mission to the monastery to retrieve the crystal, but is shown a vision of his horrible fate.
Such Sweet Sorrow Part 1 - After attempts to destroy the Discovery to keep the Sphere data out of the hands of Section 31 prove to be unsuccessful, Burnham devises a plan to use the time crystal and a newly constructed Red Angel suit to lead the Discovery nine hundred years into the future to keep the data safe.
Such Sweet Sorrow Part 2 - The Discovery and the Enterprise battle Stamets and Section 31 to buy Burnham time on her mission to set off the Red Signals and lead the Discovery to an unknown future.
We actually watched these episodes a month ago, but because of various troubles and holiday stuff I haven't been able to log them until this moment. Since then I've also watched some Doctor Who and Lost in Space, which will all be logged in one giant wave.
As for Discovery, did it stick the landing? On can't say Discovery isn't a visually spectacular series. The two-part finale is probably among the most stylish, visual effects heavy things I've ever seen on television, let alone Star Trek in general. But Star Trek isn't really about thrills, so it's kind of a moot point. If the storyline isn't intriguing then it could be all for nothing. It's a hectic story that's always in motion and I was always invested in how it would turn out. The ending is somewhat maddeningly ambiguous but gets one excited for where a third season will take us. Luckily that season is just around the corner and we have Picard in the meantime, so I'm not too concerned. It's a better cliffhanger than "Hey, it's the Enterprise!" from last year, that's for certain.
But while those last few episodes are fun and pretty to look at, some of the episodes in this season's midsection are the ones I look more fondly upon in reflection. I also don't like how viewing several Short Trek's became a requirement this year to understand certain characters in the finale. If it's not important enough to be in the show then it shouldn't be followed up on in the show. Luckily I rather enjoyed Tilly's relationship with the alien princess, so I wasn't too bothered.
I also liked the foreshadowing to the original series episode The Menagerie, which gives Pike a moment to accept his fate, which is something he never got in previous incarnations. Once he was a captain, once he was a cripple, and once he was a Bruce Greenwood, but now he's starting to become a character. I would totally watch a Pike TV series.
Also, Spock without the hipster beard is horrifying. I can't believe I'm saying this, but for the love of god man, GROW IT BACK!
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Doctor Who
Revival Series 1 - Part 1
Rose - Rose, a normal woman living in London, finds herself attacked by living mannequins and saved by a mysterious man known only as "The Doctor." Intrigued by him, Rose digs deeper only to find he is an alien time traveler.
The End of the World - The Doctor takes his new companion Rose to five billion years in the future to witness the destruction of the Earth...from a party of a satellite with a view of the planet's last hours. But there are party crashers in the form of small mechanical spiders, which begin murdering guests.
The Unquiet Dead - The Doctor and Rose investigate gas-like beings who are possessing corpses in 1869. With the help of famed author Charles Dickens, they seek to communicate with the creatures.
Aliens of London - The Doctor returns Rose to her time...twelve months too late. While she attempts to re-establish her relationship with her family and boyfriend, a UFO crash lands and the Doctor investigates what may be humanity's first contact with an alien species.
My Doctor Who knowledge is limited. The only Who products I have seen being through Rifftrax, namely the Peter Cushing movies (which apparently is fake Doctor Who) and the 80's TV special The Five Doctors which didn't even have five Doctors in it. Also King Kong Escapes, which has someone named Doctor Who in it. It always seemed like something I'd enjoy if I got into it, though my OCD would always nag at me if I started watching a TV series which is notoriously missing nearly one hundred episodes (it still doesn't forgive me because Mystery Science Theater has one lonely episode missing). But it was probably a matter of time before I started to dip my toe in it. Revival series first, because it's actually not lost.
So, I believe this starts out in 2005. Doctor Who had been off the air for about sixteen years or so, aside from an attempted revival TV movie in 1996. From the looks of things, the revival series tried to make the Doctor a bit sexier and with more youth appeal (for example, he no longer dresses like a hobbit schoolteacher), casting Christopher Eccleston, AKA Destro from GI Joe/Malekith from Thor 2. Eccleston is very game for Doctor quirk and snark, and while I don't think he's entirely an ideal lead, he does grow on you like an infection and he has a decent chemistry with his co-star/companion Billie Piper as Rose, which keeps things fun.
I myself have always gravitated to TV shows about ordinary people on an extraordinary journey out of their control. I watched a lot of Lost in Space growing up, and during my teen-to-twenties I was a heavy binger on Quantum Leap and Sliders, and more recently the series Timeless. Doctor Who seems to be cut from the same cloth, though the Doctor isn't exactly "ordinary." So I find myself using Rose more as my own focal point and using her as my rock, because seeing this fantastical journey through her eyes is more of where I find my entertainment value. I take the Doctor being more of a plot convenience that sucked her into it more than anything, which could change should the Doctor gain more development. I only know snippets about the character, like him being a "Time Lord" or some other nonsense babble. I have no clue what a "Time Lord" is other than some alien that travels through time and has James Bond like regeneration powers that make him look like someone else (I assume this is true of all Brits, honestly), but this revival series hasn't exactly established them outside of a name drop really.
The episodes themselves are hokey fun. They're fakey and silly, but there's enough cheek to the show's attitude that makes it work. The first episode, Rose, has a lot of rushed elements to it, like a lot of bad pilots, and it also relies on the characters being impulsive to move it forward (Rose running into the Tardis at the end because why not being the big "WOW she would dive off a cliff on a whim" moment of the episode, and she spends most of the next episode being mopey at her impulsiveness). I think I enjoyed the next three more, with The Unquiet Dead being the peak of these first four episodes for me, because it brought me back to those silly, individual Sliders episodes that just existed in a bottle and didn't matter the following week. I had a lot of fun with that one.
The fourth episode is part one of a two parter, though I wasn't too into the story as a whole. The idea of a first contact storyline held promise, though I felt it never really stuck the landing while it's humor fell fairly crass as well (the aliens like to fart a lot). I enjoyed the idea of Rose returning to her own time, though in an oopsie daisy by the Doctor it's a year later and she's now a missing person. My one thought about that is that I think it came too soon in the season. Rose had only had two adventures with the Doctor before coming back home. It seemed to me that more of a buffer would have made this land.
It's a good show. I'll keep at it to see if it ever becomes a great one. Maybe I'll mingle some classic Who in also.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Dec 28, 2019 15:34:34 GMT -5
The Aliens of London two-parter is the low point of the Christopher Eccleston era. The last time I went back to rewatch the early relaunch episodes, I skipped those. There are a few truly great episodes during Eccleston's time, but they were definitely still trying to get their footing throughout that first season.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Dec 28, 2019 18:57:43 GMT -5
Lost in Space
2018 Season 2 - Part 1
Shipwrecked - Seven months after the Robinsons were separated from the Resolute, the Jupiter 2 is stranded on a thin island on a planet. When their crops are accidentally destroyed, John concocts a plan to turn the ship into a raft and sail to a different region of the planet.
Precipice - With the Jupiter 2 stuck above an alien anomaly in the sea, Maureen and Penny find themselves trapped beneath the ship and the duo must find a way to get back to their family.
Echoes - The crew of the Jupiter 2 make their way back to the Resolute, only to discover it has been abandoned. The Robinsons search for clues as to what happened on board, while Dr. Smith feeds her own agenda.
Scarecrow - The Robinsons, Don West, and Dr. Smith are reunited with the rest of their colony and each do their part to get the Resolute functional and the rest of the families to the Alpha Centuri star system. However, Will tries to communicate with the alien robot designated "Scarecrow," while John discovers that a corrosive alien substance may threaten the future of their mission.
I make it no secret that I hate most of what Netflix does. I think they miss the point of what makes TV fun and often just take one story, stretch it beyond comprehension, and break it into pieces and call it good. It bores me. If a TV series is to be serialized, I'd much prefer the show to use the individual episodes to tell their own individual stories that serve that larger narrative. Instead most shows like this dick around for an hour and toss a tepid plot point at the viewer at the end of each episode to make it seem like something happened (The Walking Dead was king of this).
Thank god for Lost in Space. At long last, a show that does serialized storytelling right.
Lost in Space tells one arc for its season, but each episode is an individual entity with an obstacle to overcome. The episodes aren't afraid to tell a story, rather than most shows which have the characters mope around about the ramifications of the thirty seconds of plot from the previous week. I can identify individual episodes of Lost in Space, and tell you which episodes stand out as favorites. I can't say the same for a lot of other crap on Netflix.
Also helping is that the show is a fun reinterpretation of that childhood favorite show of mine way back when. I love the spirit of adventure that inhabits the new Lost in Space, and it's not just in tune with the original episodes of 1965, but done with such gusto and heart. I especially loved the first episode of this season, which saw the crew find their inner "Swiss Family Robinson" and turn the Jupiter into a sailboat. It brought back memories of one of the original series' best episodes, The Hungry Sea, where the Robinsons and Major West navigated some rough waters in the Chariot.
I find myself less thrilled as the Jupiter finds its way back to the Resolute. Echoes is a fun little empty hall, horror themed episode, but seeing the Robinsons reunite with the rest of the colony didn't do much for me. I liked the use of the colony in the previous season, but so far I don't see much potential cor bringing them back. Especially when the essence of Lost in Space is the Robinsons, West, and Dr. Smith isolated from the rest of the universe having a crazy adventure. This season started with the show embracing that, then seemed to get cold feet about it.
But the show has built up a lot of good will with me, and me and my friends can't wait to finish up the new season next week. Can't wait to see where the wild ride takes us!
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Post by 1godzillafan on Dec 29, 2019 20:26:28 GMT -5
Lost in Space
2018 Season 2 - Part 2
Run - With John impaled and trapped under rubble, Judy treks across a dangerous alien landscape to save his life.
Severed - When an infectious corrosion spreads from the planet to the Resolute, Penny, Dr. Smith, and Vijay find themselves trapped on the opposite end of the station and are in danger of being jettisoned into space.
Evolution - Finally reunited with the Robot, Will, Maureen, and Adler make their way back to a Jupiter rendezvous, but Adler plans to subdue the Robot for his own purposes.
I went through the last season of Lost in Space twice and what always struck me about that year was how lean and efficient it is. There is always something happening and it is always relevant to the story being told. That doesn't mean there probably wasn't fat that could have been trimmed, though if there was the charisma of the characters helped mask it.
This season does kind of sag in patches. The fourth episode is mostly just a set up for the next two, while the seventh episode seemingly is just a calm before the wheels cranking in the final three are set into motion. Ultimately, I don't question whether or not these episodes are necessary, absolutely they are, but they do feel their length as opposed to the breeziness of the more action packed episodes. This batch has Run and Severed, which are pretty great episodes of hurdles for our heroes to contend with and troubleshoot in fun ways. And Run has the added strength of being a character piece between John and Judy, helping establish their bond as step-father and step-daughter.
And the way the series has been wrestling with Dr. Smith's conscience has been extraordinary. There's more than a little bit of Baltar from the Battlestar Galactica remake in the DNA that Parker Posey gives the character, in that she's not the bumbling blowhard from the previous series and she isn't a simple villain either, offering up something more complex and gray. I can't wait to see where her story takes her.
When Lost in Space hits the ball, it flies over the fences. It's hard not to notice when it settles for a base hit. But I'm on the edge of my seat waiting to find out what happens next after Evolution's cliffhanger.
Edit: I would be remiss if I neglected to mention that wonderful callback to the first season where the Robot moves a stone to honor the death of the horse. That was beautiful.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Dec 31, 2019 8:44:22 GMT -5
Doctor Who
Revival Series 1 - Part 2
World War Three - The Doctor is blamed for deaths throughout the British ministry caused by alien infiltration, while the aliens attempt to spark nuclear war for their own financial gain. The Doctor and Rose seek to find out the origins of the aliens to get a leg up on them.
Dalek - The TARDIS is routed into Utah circa 2012, where the Doctor discovers he has captive a Dalek, a member of a hostile race and possibly the last surviving member of his species from the Time War. The Doctor implores them to kill it while Rose seeks to free it.
The Long Game - Joined by their new companion Adam, the Doctor and Rose take him to the height of human civilization, 200,000 years in the future on a space station that uplinks people's brains online. Originally intending for his companions to relax and explore, the Doctor soon suspects that something is nefarious exists on the station they've landed on. Meanwhile, Adam tries to upgrade himself future technology and use it for his own gain.
"Ladies, gentlemen, multisex, undecided, or robot..."
I've kinda taken to watching an episode of Doctor Who before going to bed while I wait for melatonin to work its magic. It's a fun way to close out the night, because it has a warm nostalgia vibe despite having never watched this show before. I wish there were more adventure of the week shows like this on air today. Often I really don't care enough to follow lengthy storylines from episode to episode.
I was iffy on the two parter that I split up between the last batch and this one, but one thing I will say is that I enjoyed part two more than I did part one. There were segments that I thought were clever and fun, like the aliens playing hide and seek with Rose and the mum from Shaun of the Dead and also later on when the Doctor is trying to figure out what planet they're from, so he has Rose and Shaun's mother list out various things they know about them, to which the Doctor exclaims "Narrows it down!" after each piece of knowledge. I also got a good laugh at the scene where the Doctor is cornered and says "If you're going to pin somebody, don't pin them against a lift" (or something like that) then jumps into an elevator.
I also quite liked the end segment between Rose and her mother, in which Rose promised that since the TARDIS is a time machine, she'll be back in ten seconds. Her mother counts to ten, but the TARDIS doesn't return. This could be quite ominous, because it implies something happens to Rose and she never sees her mother again, but it could also imply the Doctor made another oopsie daisy and who knows when she'll be back. I still contend that a return home for Rose happened too early for this to have a full effect, though it started to seem to me as if the reason they rushed it out of the way was to offer maybe a slight sense of closure between Rose and her boyfriend, who she just kind of abandoned in a heartbeat in the first episode. By the next episode it started to seem like this was pushed out of the way so Rose could have a long standing flirtatious romance with another regular companion character, Adam, introduced in the very next episode...but to put it simply, that was a big fat NOPE by episode seven. Still, maybe it was meant to make her flirting with men seem less trampy if she didn't have some dude waiting for her that DIDN'T have a time machine. Adam's arc is kind of weird and unconventional, but it works. I won't miss the son of a bitch, though (unless he comes back as a villain at some point). Rose's chemistry with the Doctor is serviceable enough for now.
Also noteworthy about this episode is that so soon after seeing Shaun of the Dead co-star Penelope Wilton on the series did we find Shaun himself, Simon Pegg, playing a villain. I was a little taken aback...was this coincidence? Probably. I imagine they are both very well liked in the UK, even not taking that particular film as part of the equation. The episode was filmed in 2005, and Shaun of the Dead had come out the year before, so Pegg was fairly well known for both it and Spaced at the time. It's interesting to think of this quaint time when Pegg's career was blossoming, before he reunited with Edgar Wright on Hot Fuzz and The World's End and even joined huge franchises like Mission: Impossible and Star Trek. It's fun to see a little role he did before all of that to remind me that he was once this quirky little actor I liked seeing pop up every once in a while. He's pretty good in the episode, though the episode is not great. It's just kind of an episode where something bad is happening and the Doctor conveniently bumps into it. The Adam subplot of the episode is more interesting than the A-plot, but it's given the short end of the stick.
That leaves one episode I haven't quite touched upon, Dalek. It's notable for not only bringing the Doctor's most famous foes into the revamped series, but it also sheds a bit more light on what exactly this "Time War" the series has been teasing is all about, alluding that the Time Lords and the Daleks were battling and wiped each other out, leaving the Doctor and the sole Dalek as the last of their respective kind. I kind of doubt that's true, though I imagine all of this makes more sense to people more familiar with classic Doctor Who lore (I might get BritBox for a few months and check out some back catalog stuff). Time will tell on that, but I think Dalek is clearly the best episode of the first seven. It's a fairly strong tale of two scarred war vets from opposing sides, and I like Rose's compassionate point of view getting in between them. If I had one complaint for the episode, I'd say the human villain is weak and underdeveloped. It seems like they should have put more time into this character that the plot of the episode rides on. Instead his character is arrogant collecting guy with money that "owns the internet," whatever the hell that means.
Halfway through this season so far. This show is fun.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jan 1, 2020 10:20:43 GMT -5
Lost in Space
2018 Season 2 - Part 3
Unknown - Upon discovering the captain of the Resolute intends to leave behind the colonists still on the planet out of fear of respreading the corrosion, Maureen takes command of the vessel through mutiny in an effort to cleanse the water containers from the infection and make it safe for the colonists to board.
Shell Game - John and Maureen are left behind by Hastings and are forced to chase the Resolute in maintenance pods. Meanwhile, Will, Penny, and Judy try to help the Robot get Scarecrow to the planet below to save his life.
Ninety-Seven - The Resolute is under attack by an army of the Robot's alien race. They decide the best course of action is to send the children of the Resolute to Alpha Centauri on the Jupiter 2, while the parents stay behind on the vessel.
A lot happens in these final three episodes of the show, with a mutiny being staged, the family becoming fugitives, and a finale that has no easy solutions and only brings up uncertainty for the future. Sending the children into space by themselves with Judy in command is in some ways the logical course of action, because it's a preservation of the future of the colony. But still, when I think about how it might end up...
Has anyone ever read Lord of the Flies?
KILL THE ROBOT! DRINK IT'S OIL!
And the final image of the series has Judy and the young new crew of the Jupiter 2 not finding themselves at Alpha Centauri, but in a different star system staring at the wreckage of a spaceship. I felt a bit of a callback to the Lost in Space movie, where the Robinsons accidentally flew through a time hole and found the wreckage of a search party vessel that was looking for them, which itself was something of a callback to the original series episode The Derelict, in which the Robinsons just investigate an alien ship and Dr. Smith pisses off the inhabitants. This one has the added intrigue of the ship they find being commanded by Judy's birth father, who was lost in space before she was born. I should have seen this coming, since the show had been teasing Judy's father all season, but at the time I had just assumed that they were just setting up the episode Run, which centered on Judy's relationship with John, and how he isn't her biological father, but he is still her dad. I have questions of why exactly the Robot brought them to this specific place, but a third season should be interesting nevertheless.
I also have had suspicions of "Dr. Smith's sacrifice" since the moment she put the space suit on. Dr. Smith willingly putting herself in danger for the Robinsons had me telling my friends "That's not the Dr. Smith I know." If this were the original series, Don would have proposed Smith go out into the bay with the frozen killer robots, Smith would have gotten whiney about it and complained about his back, and then John would have done it just to see some progress get made. After we saw the "death without a body" scene, it kept nagging at me that Smith needed a motive other than "because the Robinsons are my family now." If this were the last episode of the series, then sure, play that card, but the show goes on (pending renewal) and Smith's character is somewhat necessary to the Robinson dynamic of this series. If you wrote her out of the show, then that takes a major obstacle out of there way, because her agenda keeps things from getting easy for their mission. At a certain point toward the end, it occured to me that Dr. Smith may have used the situation as a distraction to board the Jupiter 2 somehow and fly away from the killer robots. I'm not sure how they did it, and it seems to have been written in a way that would make it easy to drop Parker Posey should she choose not to return, but I'm pretty certain that's the intent.
With it's second season, Lost in Space may have established itself as my favorite show on the air. It has a spirited sense of fun that both honors the original series and keeps me ready for another episode while almost everything else on TV works hard to be a dour duplication of the Breaking Bad formula. There are worse shows to take inspiration from, but Lost in Space's optimism in the face of insurmountable odds is addictive and makes me crave more. Netflix seems to have trouble renewing things past second seasons anymore, and they've already canceled two of the four shows I used their service for anyway (Daredevil and Mystery Science Theater, with Disenchantment being the other that's still airing), so I wouldn't be surprised if Lost in Space doesn't come back. But if it does get canceled, it cements my opinion of Netflix being unreliable and not worth any investment in. Yes, they renew Stranger Things, which is a juggernaut at this point, but why can't you support the little guys too, ya know?
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jan 3, 2020 16:12:47 GMT -5
Doctor Who
Season 1 - An Unearthly Child
An Unearthly Child - Schoolteachers Ian Chesterton and Barbara Wright become concerned about the peculiar behavior of student Susan Foreman, who shows high intelligence but odd behavior. They visit Susan at her home and discover she lives in a Police Box with her grandfather, though the inside is much more alien than the outside.
The Cave of Skulls - Ian and Barbara are highjacked by Susan and her grandfather, the Doctor, for having seen the inside of the alien time vessel, the TARDIS. The group winds up in a primitive time where the Doctor is taken captive by a tribe of savage humans who wish for him to make fire.
The Forest of Fear - Conflict within the tribe leads to an elder woman freeing the Doctor, Susan, Ian, and Barbara. The time travelers search for the TARDIS while being hunted by other tribe members.
The Firemaker - Stopping to help the tribe leader out of compassion, the Doctor, Susan, Ian, and Barbara are captured again for their good deed and make a fire to appease the tribe. But they must find a way to escape when the tribe refuses to free them.
Guess who got a BritBox account?
I cut off all of my streaming months ago, because the guy I was renting from stopped paying the internet bill (which was supposed to be part of my rent, then he raised it and still didn't pay the bill) and I stopped using most of them. I only got to watch Lost in Space because I was having a get together with other fans of the show at their house. I can still stream through my phone though, so I decided to start watching classic Who during my lunch at work. I may have to dump it later this month so I can start up CBS for Star Trek, so we'll see how long this lasts for now.
But while I don't normally give streaming services too much credit, if you're interested in Doctor Who, BritBox is a godsend. BBC's disc releases of the show are erratic and hard to keep track of. I understand the idea of individual serials on their own DVDs and purchased separately, but boy, pricing them like individual movies is rather archaic. Shows like Star Trek, I Love Lucy, and Twilight Zone started doing that in the early 2000's, but it was soon abandoned for complete season sets. BBC is finally releasing season sets on blu-ray (of a show that was filmed on video tape), but they're shooting them out randomly. I imagine they're saving the incomplete seasons for last while they work up a battle plan for them, though I'm not entirely sure what their strategy is in releasing random seasons from the middle of different eras (Season one of Tom Baker followed by season seven?). Keeping track of Doctor Who discs is a headache and it looks expensive, so having what's available all in one spot is something I think we can all be thankful for.
Apparently most of BritBox's customers went straight for Doctor Who also, so I'm probably not the only one that thinks this.
Since classic Doctor Who is broken up into mini-serials, I'm going to have some fun with my format and split them into serial based segments. This show seems tailor made for it. And I kind of dig it. Doctor Who just takes however the hell much time it needs to tell its story. None of this stretching it out to an entire season crap or trying to jam it all in one episode.
Anyway, I was hoping to get more establishment for who the Doctor was and what he's doing screwing with timd by going back to the beginning, because the revival always seems to sidestep it. Did I get what I was hoping for? Doctor's explanation: "We're aliens. We have a time machine."
Cool. Thanks for clearing that up.
In this incarnation he's exiled for some reason and they let him have a time machine he can't control because why not? I don't see what could go wrong with this plan. He also has a granddaughter with him and at some point he decided to settle down in the 1960's and put her through school. She seems to already know everything at this Earth school, so I'm not sure what the point is. Anyway, in a plot point that seems straight out of an R.L. Stein book, the teachers discover their student is an alien and they get abducted. What the Doctor has planned for them is unclear, but I wouldn't rule out anal probes.
I quite like how the Doctor gets his name. Ian refers to him as Doctor Foreman in the second episode, to which the Doctor, clearly unfamiliar with the surname Susan has chosen, responds "Doctor Who?" He never gives his name, so they just call him "Doctor."
As for the serial's storyline, it's okay, though it runs a little long and repetitious toward the end (there's only so many times I can hear "MAKE FIRE!" before I get sick of it). The first episode is more of a prologue that tosses Ian and Barbara into the TARDIS with the Doctor and Susan. I reiterate that I have no idea what the Doctor's big plan was for them. He just boasts at them for a few minutes, says they know too much (mostly because he told them), and whisks them away. But honestly...even if they "knew too much," who was going to believe them about a police box time machine? Who cares what they knew?
The Doctor is very self-important and prideful, explaining about how his intellect towers above the others as often as possible. Then he is beaten up by cavemen and comes off as a doddering old fool. William Hartnell is very good in the role, at any rate. The caveman storyline for him doesn't have much meat on its bones other than to make the main players run. Most of the time I found myself thinking "Boy, they sure had English down pat back then."
But I have fun with old cheese like this. I'll watch some more because why not?
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