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Post by FShuttari on Nov 3, 2017 17:21:50 GMT -5
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Post by thebtskink on Oct 21, 2021 23:24:08 GMT -5
If it's not his negligence, that's a hell of a thing to carry with him.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 22, 2021 17:37:27 GMT -5
Doomsday SnoBorderZeroWhat’s the chatter in the biz? This hasn’t happened since Brandon Lee and The Crow, back in the early 1990’s.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Oct 22, 2021 18:24:36 GMT -5
Doomsday SnoBorderZero What’s the chatter in the biz? This hasn’t happened since Brandon Lee and The Crow, back in the early 1990’s. Not good. Has definitely been a topic of discussion on set today. How these things happen is honestly beyond me. A live round should never be in a prop gun. Ever.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Oct 22, 2021 18:39:25 GMT -5
Why would live rounds even be on set let alone in the prop gun?
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Post by Doomsday on Oct 23, 2021 16:44:55 GMT -5
I'm not sure how props weapons work or the differences in prop ammunition types. Either way a lot of people are going to have to answer for this professionally, and that's on top of the mental anguish that I'm sure a lot of these folks are enduring already. I can't imagine what Baldwin must be thinking to himself.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Oct 26, 2021 12:05:39 GMT -5
Beyond reckless by everyone involved. Irresponsible is too kind a word for what went down across the board on this production.
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Post by Dracula on Oct 26, 2021 13:34:53 GMT -5
So I'm looking at the IMDB of the AD who handed Baldwin the gun and two things are jumping out at me.
Firstly, he apparently worked with Halyna Hutchins once before on some obscure 2019 horror movie called Darlin'
Secondly, he is credited as the "second second assistant director: second unit, USA" on The Matrix Reloaded, which has to be one of the most pathetic credits imaginable. So if I'm reading this right not only is he working on a second unit of the movie, but he's not even the assistant director, or even the second assistant direct, he's the second second assistant director, specified to make sure he's the lesser of the two second assistant directors that this movie needed on its second unit on a different continent from where the rest of the movie is being shot. I wonder if he brags about this credit at bars.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Oct 26, 2021 13:45:33 GMT -5
So I'm looking at the IMDB of the AD who handed Baldwin the gun and two things are jumping out at me. Firstly, he apparently worked with Halyna Hutchins once before on some obscure 2019 horror movie called Darlin' Secondly, he is credited as the "second second assistant director: second unit, USA" on The Matrix Reloaded, which has to be one of the most pathetic credits imaginable. So if I'm reading this right not only is he working on a second unit of the movie, but he's not even the assistant director, or even the second assistant direct, he's the second second assistant director, specified to make sure he's the lesser of the two second assistant directors that this movie needed on its second unit on a different continent from where the rest of the movie is being shot. I wonder if he brags about this credit at bars. Yikes. And so this was the AD that was on set when this happened? Because apparently the original 1st AD was fired for overseeing an unsafe work environment and had similar past complaints against him as well. So you have one idiot that got removed, this idiot that got promoted as a result, and then the powder keg set already rife with serious issues that finally explodes as a result. Truly unbelievable.
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Post by Dracula on Oct 26, 2021 14:01:26 GMT -5
So I'm looking at the IMDB of the AD who handed Baldwin the gun and two things are jumping out at me. Firstly, he apparently worked with Halyna Hutchins once before on some obscure 2019 horror movie called Darlin' Secondly, he is credited as the "second second assistant director: second unit, USA" on The Matrix Reloaded, which has to be one of the most pathetic credits imaginable. So if I'm reading this right not only is he working on a second unit of the movie, but he's not even the assistant director, or even the second assistant direct, he's the second second assistant director, specified to make sure he's the lesser of the two second assistant directors that this movie needed on its second unit on a different continent from where the rest of the movie is being shot. I wonder if he brags about this credit at bars. Yikes. And so this was the AD that was on set when this happened? Because apparently the original 1st AD was fired for overseeing an unsafe work environment and had similar past complaints against him as well. So you have one idiot that got removed, this idiot that got promoted as a result, and then the powder keg set already rife with serious issues that finally explodes as a result. Truly unbelievable. Apparently, the guy had a history of recklessness and almost blinded the guy who played Creed on The Office once:
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Oct 26, 2021 16:10:19 GMT -5
Oh my god, this guy is a fucking menace! He's literally doing all of the things opposite of what an AD should be doing on set! Fucking unbelievable, guy should never be allowed anywhere near a set ever again.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 26, 2021 17:08:52 GMT -5
Oh my god, this guy is a fucking menace! He's literally doing all of the things opposite of what an AD should be doing on set! Fucking unbelievable, guy should never be allowed anywhere near a set ever again. Pretty sure he’s going to jail.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Oct 26, 2021 17:23:49 GMT -5
Pretty sure he’s going to jail. Good.
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Post by Dracula on Oct 29, 2021 10:24:20 GMT -5
Looks like the armorer had a history of negligence too and pissed off Nicholas Cage on the one other movie she worked on previously:
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Oct 29, 2021 14:07:13 GMT -5
This just gets worse and worse.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 29, 2021 14:25:41 GMT -5
This just gets worse and worse. It is years of incompetence and negligence snowballing into this tragedy.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Oct 29, 2021 15:00:49 GMT -5
It is years of incompetence and negligence snowballing into this tragedy. Yup. You hear horror stories of people in the industry that somehow keep getting work despite that incompetence and negligence because they've been in the game for a period of time. You would think after multiple incidents these people wouldn't get rehired, but surprisingly they always seem to find their way back onto a set. This needs to be a wakeup call to the industry on vetting crew members a lot more seriously than they have been.
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