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Post by Neverending on Aug 9, 2016 13:36:04 GMT -5
Yup, he made the right choice. He could've goofed around and been a Dwight Howard but instead wanted to be a champ. Shaq REALLY was a goof back then. Movie career. Rap career. Video game. He was more mature and focused with the Lakers. Anyway, going back to Horace. He said he went to Orlando cause he thought that team could win 3 or 4 championships. If Michael Jordan hadn't returned, that could have been possible. I could totally see that Magic team winning 96, 97, 98 and MAYBE 99. After that it becomes questionable cause the Spurs would have been the dominant team. Then again, what if Phil Jackson and the Bulls got their shit together. Or what if Jackson had left to coach a rising team. Maybe the Lakers. Maybe something else. A lot of what if's. |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Aug 9, 2016 14:15:46 GMT -5
Lol, that is a lot of hypothetical statements. Shaq was a goof ball there too, but he won and dominated, unlike Dwight Howard.
You're forgetting the Jazz. They would've won titles if Jordan was gone. I'm confident they would beat the Magic, Stockton and Malone were in their primes.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 9, 2016 21:14:16 GMT -5
Lol, that is a lot of hypothetical statements. Shaq was a goof ball there too, but he won and dominated, unlike Dwight Howard. You're forgetting the Jazz. They would've won titles if Jordan was gone. I'm confident they would beat the Magic, Stockton and Malone were in their primes. The Jazz were terrible. The West in the 90's were the equivalent of the East today: a joke. |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Aug 10, 2016 9:38:44 GMT -5
Lol, that is a lot of hypothetical statements. Shaq was a goof ball there too, but he won and dominated, unlike Dwight Howard. You're forgetting the Jazz. They would've won titles if Jordan was gone. I'm confident they would beat the Magic, Stockton and Malone were in their primes. The Jazz were terrible. The West in the 90's were the equivalent of the East today: a joke. Terrible? Yes the West was weak those years, but they still won 60+ games and in 1997 went to 6 games. Their supporting cast was solid too. |
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Post by Neverending on Aug 10, 2016 11:44:41 GMT -5
Maybe not terrible, but they weren't really a match for the Bulls. 97 and 98 might have been the easiest finals that Jordan played. If I were to rank their championships from most difficult to easiest I'd say 92 vs Trail Blazers 96 vs Super Sonics 93 vs Suns 97 vs Jazz 91 vs Lakers 98 vs Jazz |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Aug 10, 2016 13:45:20 GMT -5
I'd put Lakers as the easiest, but other than that I agree with your rankings.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 10, 2016 14:13:39 GMT -5
I'd put Lakers as the easiest. It may seem that way cause of the 4-1 win, but all 5 games were pretty close. In the 98 Finals, you could tell both teams didn't take it seriously. Dennis Rodman and Karl Malone spent the whole series goofying around and even wrestled at WWF or WCW, I forget which, later that summer. And then there was the infamous Game 3 where the Bulls beat the Jazz by 42 points. Every single members of the Bulls team scored that night. That's how humiliating it was. By comparison, the Playoff series against the Pacers was WAY better and more intense. That went to Game 7 and the Bulls won by only 5 points. |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Aug 10, 2016 14:23:39 GMT -5
Yeah you're probably right. I think I just put it on a higher pedestal because those series had such iconic Jordan moments like the flu game and the crossover shot over Bryon Russell.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 10, 2016 15:02:40 GMT -5
Yeah you're probably right. I think I just put it on a higher pedestal because those series had such iconic Jordan moments like the flu game and the crossover shot over Bryon Russell. Good point, but 91 had highlights too. |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Aug 10, 2016 15:05:14 GMT -5
Yeah you're probably right. I think I just put it on a higher pedestal because those series had such iconic Jordan moments like the flu game and the crossover shot over Bryon Russell. Good point, but 91 had highlights too. I was 1, never watched them. Probably should check them out. |
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Post by Neverending on Aug 10, 2016 21:29:16 GMT -5
Good point, but 91 had highlights too. I was 1, never watched them. Probably should check them out. |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Aug 11, 2016 9:38:40 GMT -5
Ahhh, so that's where that play comes from. Awesome move by Jordan.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 16, 2017 16:54:36 GMT -5
Yo, SnoBorderZeroWhat's going on? Is LeBron seriously gonna send Kevin Love to the Knicks in exchange for Carmelo Anthony? |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Feb 16, 2017 17:03:12 GMT -5
Yo, SnoBorderZero What's going on? Is LeBron seriously gonna send Kevin Love to the Knicks in exchange for Carmelo Anthony? That would be a moronic move by Cleveland, Anthony doesn't make them better and Love before getting injured was having his best season as a Cavalier. |
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Post by Neverending on Feb 16, 2017 17:35:04 GMT -5
Yo, SnoBorderZero What's going on? Is LeBron seriously gonna send Kevin Love to the Knicks in exchange for Carmelo Anthony? That would be a moronic move by Cleveland, Anthony doesn't make them better and Love before getting injured was having his best season as a Cavalier. Why is Kevin Love so injury prone? Motherfucker thinks he's D-Rose. Speaking of which... how's Wade doing in Chicago? Heard they were gonna make the Playoffs. |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Feb 16, 2017 18:15:56 GMT -5
Yeah, Cleveland always deals with injuries it seems, except for LeBron who continues to have to do everything and subsequently whines about it.
Wade has been alright but Chicago has been a definite disappointment. They're not a very balanced team. Wade and Butler are great 2 guards, the rest of the team is decent role players and not a lot of defense. You would think they'd squeak into the 6-8 seeds in the east still.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 16, 2017 22:12:05 GMT -5
Yeah, Cleveland always deals with injuries it seems, except for LeBron who continues to have to do everything and subsequently whines about it. Wade has been alright but Chicago has been a definite disappointment. They're not a very balanced team. Wade and Butler are great 2 guards, the rest of the team is decent role players and not a lot of defense. You would think they'd squeak into the 6-8 seeds in the east still. I don't want Warriors-LeBron Part 3. Which teams should we be focusing on for the Playoffs? |
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Post by thebtskink on Feb 16, 2017 22:31:34 GMT -5
The whole Dolan/Oakley thing is a goddamned disgrace.
The Knicks are a joke.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Feb 16, 2017 23:25:24 GMT -5
Yeah, Cleveland always deals with injuries it seems, except for LeBron who continues to have to do everything and subsequently whines about it. Wade has been alright but Chicago has been a definite disappointment. They're not a very balanced team. Wade and Butler are great 2 guards, the rest of the team is decent role players and not a lot of defense. You would think they'd squeak into the 6-8 seeds in the east still. I don't want Warriors-LeBron Part 3. Which teams should we be focusing on for the Playoffs? Spurs, Warriors, and Cavaliers are on their own tier. Rockets, Celtics, Raptors, Clippers are on the next tier. Jazz, Hawks, Grizzlies (who should be better, I really like their roster overall) and Wizards are probably below that. Warriors have had some ugly double digit losses this season. I know we shouldn't read too much into regular season losses for them to teams like the Nuggets, but it's alarming to me. It shows that when the Warriors are down they're having trouble climbing back, which is absurd since they can score so quickly and easily. I want to see more of Durant taking over. Curry gets too cute with his poor shot selection (I know he makes it but still) and fancy passes, it's what cost Golden State the finals last season. I say watch out for the Spurs. If anyone can take down Golden State and Cleveland, it's them. Everyone else? Gotta pray for a miracle. Maybe Raptors and Celtics can challenge Cleveland, but I aint putting money on it. |
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Post by Neverending on Feb 17, 2017 0:30:11 GMT -5
SnoBorderZeroThe whole Dolan/Oakley thing is a goddamned disgrace. The Knicks are a joke. I grew up with the Bulls so I've never been a Knicks guy, but even I hate to see what that team has become, especially under Phil Jackson.
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Post by thebtskink on Feb 17, 2017 7:59:22 GMT -5
SnoBorderZeroThe whole Dolan/Oakley thing is a goddamned disgrace. The Knicks are a joke. I grew up with the Bulls so I've never been a Knicks guy, but even I hate to see what that team has become, especially under Phil Jackson. I've always known Jackson was a fat fucking fraud, and it delights me to no end he's being exposed as such. |
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Post by Neverending on Feb 17, 2017 8:37:12 GMT -5
SnoBorderZeroI grew up with the Bulls so I've never been a Knicks guy, but even I hate to see what that team has become, especially under Phil Jackson. I've always known Jackson was a fat fucking fraud, and it delights me to no end he's being exposed as such. Nah, bro. Even Michael Jordan is a shitty owner. Not everyone is Jerry West or Pat Riley or Larry Bird. Some people just gotta stick to the court. |
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Post by thebtskink on Feb 17, 2017 9:18:58 GMT -5
Fair point.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Feb 17, 2017 10:50:41 GMT -5
Yes, but Jackson's public handling of the Carmelo situation has been awful. In his tenure, the only good thing you can point to is drafting Porzingis. He and Dolan together are the biggest disaster since, well, Dolan and Isaiah Thomas together.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 17, 2017 14:34:43 GMT -5
Yes, but Jackson's public handling of the Carmelo situation has been awful. In his tenure, the only good thing you can point to is drafting Porzingis. He and Dolan together are the biggest disaster since, well, Dolan and Isaiah Thomas together. Is Phil Jackson still living in L.A.? You can't run a business through Skype. |
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