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Post by Deexan on May 31, 2016 7:07:25 GMT -5
I was distracted by Kirk riding a motorcycle.
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Post by Jibbs on May 31, 2016 18:29:31 GMT -5
The Enterprise might not get destroyed. Best we can say is it's very damaged.
I see they're doing the classic Star Trek movie plot set-up. Characters get split up between the ship and a planet its orbiting. That's like half the movies.
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Post by Doomsday on Jul 9, 2016 19:54:21 GMT -5
They do that with every great movie.
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Post by Jibbs on Jul 9, 2016 20:43:39 GMT -5
I'll be the seventh to say "what a SHOCKER."
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Post by Wyldstaar on Jul 9, 2016 22:34:01 GMT -5
I definitely can't be bothered to see this opening weekend, if at all. Why anyone would put Justin Lin in charge of anything more sophisticated than a Fast & Furious movie would be beyond me, if I thought that this was actually going to be a sophisticated science fiction film. It's not though, not anymore. Star Trek is just action schlock now, like Transformers and GI Joe.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 10, 2016 0:13:00 GMT -5
I definitely can't be bothered to see this opening weekend, if at all. Why anyone would put Justin Lin in charge of anything more sophisticated than a Fast & Furious movie would be beyond me, if I thought that this was actually going to be a sophisticated science fiction film. It's not though, not anymore. Star Trek is just action schlock now, like Transformers and GI Joe. Let's not exaggerate. Simon Pegg did write the screenplay and seems to be actively involved in the film. He's the one defending Sulu being gay now. The movie not be exactly what Paramount wanted, but I doubt it'll be as bad as Transformers.
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Post by Jibbs on Jul 10, 2016 0:45:45 GMT -5
Yeah, and then it was "too Star Trek" so they changed it and then reshot it.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Jul 10, 2016 1:44:17 GMT -5
Let's not exaggerate. Simon Pegg did write the screenplay and seems to be actively involved in the film. He's the one defending Sulu being gay now. The movie not be exactly what Paramount wanted, but I doubt it'll be as bad as Transformers. I don't think it will be as bad as Transformers, just in the same vein. Lots of mindless action, with bits of plot sprinkled in to keep things moving. With Pegg writing the screenplay, we've got a shot at the plot resembling sense . As for the final cut of the film managing to deliver any real meaning, I suspect any thought provoking scenes that managed to get filmed will be left on the editing room floor and replaced with a scene of a shootout, explosions or someone stripping for no readily apparent reason.
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Post by Jibbs on Jul 14, 2016 22:31:51 GMT -5
Where's the teaser trailer for the reviews?
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Post by Doomsday on Jul 15, 2016 15:45:43 GMT -5
89% on RT right now with 18 reviews.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jul 15, 2016 17:36:10 GMT -5
So I take it I'm the only one on here genuinely excited/interested to see this movie?
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Post by Jibbs on Jul 16, 2016 14:47:25 GMT -5
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Post by Deexan on Jul 16, 2016 23:15:51 GMT -5
Had an interesting conversation with a friend today about the prediction that cinema is morphing into two extremes: hundred million dollar tentpoles and microbudget indies. It's generally expected that the mid-budget flicks are the ones that are going to vanish from the multiplex while the fx-heavy epics make billions and the indies make a profit due to their minuscule initial cost.
Then we realised that these blockbusters are going out of their way to be built around huge, FX-heavy set pieces because that's the reasoning they use to convince would-be consumers that it's worth seeing it on the big screen.
"Hey, this action is so bombastic and over the top and BIG that the only way to consume it and appreciate it is on the big screen with a 50,000w sound system."
Then we realised that they're already doing that and they've been doing it for a while now, and it explains why so many blockbusters seem to be trying to outdo each other when it comes to what's "at stake" and the conclusions to pretty much every recent blockbuster.
Popular film is no longer about story or performances. It's about who can bring the most epic, overwhelming set piece and remind the average Joe that cinema can create scenes of such gravity that they eclipse the small screen and make it seem wholly redundant.
All of us here love cinema. We don't need convincing that it should survive, but the average person couldn't care less - that's why they need to be convinced in a different way. They need to be shown something like Avatar, or Furious 7 or even Ghostbusters or Star Trek - just to be reminded that cinema can do things that all the other mediums they consume can't.
Thus explains the rise of the generic set piece. (I may be making that conclusion up.)
Nolan is still in a league of his own, though. He's the anomaly. (Hi Dooms.)
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Post by Neverending on Jul 16, 2016 23:23:53 GMT -5
Had an interesting conversation with a friend today about the prediction that cinema is morphing into two extremes: hundred million dollar tentpoles and microbudget indies. It's generally expected that the mid-budget flicks are the ones that are going to vanish from the multiplex while the fx-heavy epics make billions and the indies make a profit due to their minuscule initial cost. Then we realised that these blockbusters are going out of their way to be built around huge, FX-heavy set pieces because that's the reasoning they use to convince would-be consumers that it's worth seeing it on the big screen. "Hey, this action is so bombastic and over the top and BIG that the only way to consume it and appreciate it is on the big screen with a 50,000w sound system." Then we realised that they're already doing that and they've been doing it for a while now, and it explains why so many blockbusters seem to be trying to outdo each other when it comes to what's "at stake" and the conclusions to pretty much every recent blockbuster. Popular film is no longer about story or performances. It's about who can bring the most epic, overwhelming set piece and remind the average Joe that cinema can create scenes of such gravity that they eclipse the small screen and make it seem wholly redundant. All of us here love cinema. We don't need convincing that it should survive, but the average person couldn't care less - that's why they need to be convinced in a different way. They need to be shown something like Avatar, or Furious 7 or even Ghostbusters or Star Trek - just to be reminded that cinema can do things that all the other mediums they consume can't. Thus explains the rise of the generic set piece. (I may be making that conclusion up.) Nolan is still in a league of his own, though. He's the anomaly. (Hi Dooms.) Doomsday 's hatred for Nolan is mostly for comedy. The Dark Knight and Inception are still the gold standard for modern blockbusters. That being said, animation is low-key the driving force behind movie attendance. Zootopia, Dory and Secret Life of Pets have been the biggest hits of the year. If you make a great family film, people will show up.
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Post by Deexan on Jul 16, 2016 23:25:12 GMT -5
It's 5am and the above makes complete sense guys. Don't even try to argue with this water-tight logic.
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Post by Deexan on Jul 16, 2016 23:37:07 GMT -5
Had an interesting conversation with a friend today about the prediction that cinema is morphing into two extremes: hundred million dollar tentpoles and microbudget indies. It's generally expected that the mid-budget flicks are the ones that are going to vanish from the multiplex while the fx-heavy epics make billions and the indies make a profit due to their minuscule initial cost. Then we realised that these blockbusters are going out of their way to be built around huge, FX-heavy set pieces because that's the reasoning they use to convince would-be consumers that it's worth seeing it on the big screen. "Hey, this action is so bombastic and over the top and BIG that the only way to consume it and appreciate it is on the big screen with a 50,000w sound system." Then we realised that they're already doing that and they've been doing it for a while now, and it explains why so many blockbusters seem to be trying to outdo each other when it comes to what's "at stake" and the conclusions to pretty much every recent blockbuster. Popular film is no longer about story or performances. It's about who can bring the most epic, overwhelming set piece and remind the average Joe that cinema can create scenes of such gravity that they eclipse the small screen and make it seem wholly redundant. All of us here love cinema. We don't need convincing that it should survive, but the average person couldn't care less - that's why they need to be convinced in a different way. They need to be shown something like Avatar, or Furious 7 or even Ghostbusters or Star Trek - just to be reminded that cinema can do things that all the other mediums they consume can't. Thus explains the rise of the generic set piece. (I may be making that conclusion up.) Nolan is still in a league of his own, though. He's the anomaly. (Hi Dooms.) Doomsday 's hatred for Nolan is mostly for comedy. The Dark Knight and Inception are still the gold standard for modern blockbusters. That being said, animation is low-key the driving force behind movie attendance. Zootopia, Dory and Secret Life of Pets have been the biggest hits of the year. If you make a great family film, people will show up. What comedy? Nolan's comedy? Are you pulling my leg? I think Dooms' Nolan beef goes deeper than that. I actually think he and his brother's humourous elements in their films are above par and I personally find them surprisingly down to earth when compared to the calculated worthiness of their scripts. Maybe I'm alone on that. Your animated observation is interesting though. I feel like at this point the combined experience of Disney and Pixar means that they literally can't fail. Kids' movies are unique in that every few years there's a new market, a new generation. They can regurgitate what they know works. A fresh childhood demographic will never get old or bored of what they're producing. It's literally a perpetual well from which to draw money, and I can't see how they can mess that up in our lifetime.
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Post by Deexan on Jul 16, 2016 23:41:10 GMT -5
Not sure what to make of that. Warcraft at 10 is remarkable afetr it's US performance.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 16, 2016 23:47:13 GMT -5
Not sure what to make of that. Warcraft at 10 is remarkable afetr it's US performance. It was a HUGE hit in China. The Mermaid, by the way, is a Chinese movie. China is as big, if not bigger, than America these days.
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Post by Deexan on Jul 16, 2016 23:49:47 GMT -5
Not sure what to make of that. Warcraft at 10 is remarkable afetr it's US performance. It was a HUGE hit in China. The Mermaid, by the way, is a Chinese movie. China is as big, if not bigger, than America these days. Yet they refused release of Ghostbusters. Clearly, their Movie Watcher in Chief was an 80s child.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 16, 2016 23:51:15 GMT -5
It was a HUGE hit in China. The Mermaid, by the way, is a Chinese movie. China is as big, if not bigger, than America these days. Yet they refused release of Ghostbusters. Clearly, their Movie Watcher in Chief was an 80s child. Nah. Apparently, the Chinese don't believe in mocking the dead.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Jul 17, 2016 17:37:13 GMT -5
China is as big, if not bigger, than America these days. China does have a massive movie going audience, but the majority of the money made by American movie studios still comes from Western audiences. Hollywood productions only get 25% of the Chinese box office. At the end of a film's run, it's a great deal of money, but far less than the average domestic take. Sometimes however, that 25% can mean the difference between a movie being profitable or not. Pacific Rim for example is only getting a sequel because of it's reception in China. In fact, I suspect that at least part of the production of Pacific Rim II will be moved to China, since any foreign production that films there gets more than the usual 25% take. That's why the last Transformers movie had it's finale shot in China.
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