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Post by Neverending on Sept 19, 2016 23:06:55 GMT -5
I have the person in mind already however if anyone has any suggestions or recommendations and would perhaps like to do it with me that would be welcome. Is it Renny Harlin? M. Night Shyamalan
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Post by Doomsday on Sept 20, 2016 0:09:56 GMT -5
I kind of want to watch them all myself, now. Though I already did that for the site once. Should I repost my findings? Do it!
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Post by Doomsday on Sept 20, 2016 0:10:24 GMT -5
Actually it's Dennis Dugan.
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Post by Neverending on Sept 20, 2016 3:15:20 GMT -5
Actually it's Dennis Dugan. Dennis Dugan wouldn't be a bad choice. We can talk shit about Grown Ups 2 and Jack & Jill but what about boyhood favorites like Problem Child and Beverly Hills Ninja? Did he always suck or did Adam Sandler ruin a once beloved comedy director? I mean, Happy Gilmore is a classic and Big Daddy isn't disliked.
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Back when there was 15 Coen movies, I guess. My ranking and often brief and shitty reviews: 1. Fargo (1994)
This film is brilliant, but when I try to figure out why, I'm left a bit dumbfounded. It's clearly got a great cast, but the story is almost cliché and the cinematography consists of snow and bars.
I guess Fargo is the movie that most expertly displays the Coens ability to write a screenplay where things go from simple to complex and irrational. And in Fargo, almost every turn where something goes wrong, it comes out of greed. It was many viewings of this movie before I noticed that Buscemi was killed over a matter of $40,000 that he wouldn't give to Stormare when he had $750,000 back in the case.
And then there's McDormand's character to bring it all together and serve as the Voice of Reason. Everyone in the movie is so miserable or sad except for her, and the movie takes its time to show us how simple and boring her life is.
Also, the movie's got a perfect dry wit.
****/****
2. True Grit (2010)
I love this movie more every time I see it. It has an amazing cast of characters that are wonderfully acted, great cinematography, dialogue, and plenty of great scenes dotted throughout the film. Jeff Bridges is perfect as Rooster Cogburn and Hailee Steinfeld is wonderful as Mattie. At only 14 she has shown her acting chops and was particularly great in the early scene involving the bargaining for her horses. Bridges proves to be a great choice during his first scene in the courtroom and basically every other scene he's in. Matt Damon's OK, too.
What keeps me coming back to this film, though, is the final 20 minutes or so. There's a great battle between Cogburn and four bad guys that acts as sort of a Swan Song for him and he later proves just how devoted he is to Mattie and his sense of duty when he does everything humanly possible to get her back home alive. Truly one of the best Coen films.
****/****
3. The Hudsucker Proxy (1994)
I'm surprised I don't hear more about this Coen gem - it might just be the funniest Coen brothers film, right up there with "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" and "Burn After Reading."
This movie is Brazil meets The Producers meets Zucker and Abrams. It has a plot similar to The Producers, the style and subject matter of Brazil, and the zaniness of Zucker/Abrahms comedies. The cast is wonderful, especially Tim Robbins, Jennifer Jason Leigh, and Paul Newman (even the elevator operator is hilarious.)
The movie is just filled with hilarious sequences such as this collection of scenes where everyone is laughing after the hiring of Robbins as president which is genius in its own insane way, and there's also one of my favorite things ever where for about 5 minutes we follow the design, naming (Extruded Plastic Dingus), testing, production and release of the Hula Hoop (you know, for kids.)
Though as much as I love this movie, I have a major complaint. I hate the ending. I hate that the clock guy / narrator / God stops time to save Robbins' life. I'm really not sure what they were thinking with this one.
***.5/****
4. A Serious Man (2009)
A Serious Man might be the Coens' most intellectually challenging film and I'm starting to get a good grasp on it. Larry Gopnik is a pretty normal guy who follows the rules and is on the cusp of getting a life that he wants. But suddenly he has trouble with his wife and job, and he begins to question his faith and life in general. What's really interesting about this film to me is that Larry is a physics teacher. The movie is filled with examples where the search for life's mysteries is compared to the exactness of math and physics. That's Larry's problem though, life is NOT math. There's a scene where he's teaching his students about the Schrödinger's cat thought experiment where a cat inside of a box may or not be dead and is therefore both dead and alive at the same time. Of all the physics experiments, this movie chose the one that involves uncertainty and paradox. Later he's arguing with a student who is trying to bribe him and he's saying he understands the "stories", but Larry responds "yes, but you don't understand the math! You can't understand physics without the math!" When Larry says that actions have consequences, the student replies with something that also doubles as a quip, "Yes, sometimes." The student seems to understand the world better than Larry Gopnik.
The movie is just full of these examples. Also fascinating is the uncle who is trying to solve the universe's probabilities with what he calls "The Mentaculus" (which works to get him money gambling, but arrested), and there's the brilliant story of the Goy's teeth, which basically tells us life is weird and the only way you're going to get through it is not to worry. The movie also has great dry humor to it throughout the whole movie.
I will admit I'm still not sure if I get the ending, though. Knowing the Coen brothers, my best guess is it's supposed to be ironic. Larry finally decides to change the grade of the student who was bribing him, and at this very moment he gets a call about bad medical news and his son and his entire class is about to be wiped out by a tornado. This is a perfect example of Karma, but the rest of the movie appears to be saying that there is no rhyme or reason to morality, God or fate...despite a Tornado being an "act of God." It also seems noteworthy that the tornado is about to hit his son even though he's finally paying back the bully for his pot. Perhaps he was too late? Perhaps "shit happens?" I'm not quite sure, but I love this movie.
***.5/****
5. The Man Who Wasn’t There (2001)
Typically I haven't been a big fan of film noir, but there's something about this one that hits the right chords with me. There's a lot more to this plot than most in the genre, as can be expected from the Coens, and the main character goes through a lot of changes instead of a day described in voiceover about some dame. However, I think going with this genre ultimately hurts it from being TRUELY great. The events in this movie change the lead character's life quite considerably and this is shown with poignant voice-overs, but he's so stoic throughout the movie that I have trouble believing that HE believes these things that he's saying.
Like most Coen films, this one is full of ever-expanding complexities born from misunderstandings and crime. Unfortunately, this one borrows a bit too much from Blood Simple, but it helps to ignore that. It expands on the use of complicated murders to an ultimate point where many people pay for a crime, but not their own. This is but one of this movie's delicious ironies.
Perhaps most interesting about this movie is Scarlett Johansson's role. Only 17 in this movie, her character Birdy provides an innocent distraction for Ed (Billy Bob Thorton) as all of this crap is going on around him. In the first half of this movie, Ed is pursuing an investment in dry cleaning, and after that goes south, Birdy becomes his new investment. He acts as a father figure and persuades her to pursue her talent as a pianist. She plays a Beethoven song for him which by no coincidence is the composer of most of the movie's soundtrack. This goes horribly wrong as well after Birdy makes advances on him. More irony, but also one more thing in a never-ending line of things being taken away from him. Ultimately, he is left with nothing.
***.5/****
6. Burn After Reading (2008)
Burn After Reading is one of those films you have to watch more than once; I've heard this from a few people. The weird and brilliant thing about this movie is that it's a silly satire that takes itself very seriously, and it may take a second viewing to get behind that. It's a spy thriller, but with missing pieces, idiots, and utter and complete ignorance. Though what really sells this as a "serious" movie is the directing and dramatic score.
Noteworthy is the amazing cast, led by Clooney, Pitt, McDormand and Malkovich. Every one of them are out of their comfort zone and brilliant...except for maybe Malkovich, who's just brilliant. Pitt and McDormand are really great together.
And through all the wackiness, the movie still has some poignancy. Its clear McDormand's character was in need of a fantasy to distract her from her crippling love life. In fact, the whole movie has this weird theme of fantasy vs. reality. The great thing about the movie is McDormand and Pitt's fantasy of how the government works.
I also have to mention one of favorite moments in any Coen brothers film, and that's when Clooney gets upset and passionately attacks and destroys the masturbation chair. This is the quintessence of the M.O of the movie, to have complete ridiculousness filmed in serious manners.
"Report back to me when it...I don't know, makes sense."
***.5/****
7. Blood Simple. (1984)
“Blood Simple” is a low-key, but engaging thriller. Even before things start hitting the fan, there is a cool, but eerie nervousness to all of the scenes. It drags a little bit after Marty dies, but makes up for it with an intense ending.
I love the “twist” at the end where after shooting the detective Abby says “I’m not afraid of you, Marty,” revealing that for this whole scene she thought she was fighting her dead husband. Even in the Coen Brothers’ debut, many of their common themes were already present. There’s murder, money, but also a comedic sense of confusion among characters and plot. (This theme is most evident in “Burn After Reading”). Ray kills Abby’s husband in horrible fashion by burying him alive, but this all stemmed from him mistakenly assuming Abby tried to kill him earlier.
***.5/****
8. O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000)
I remembered this film being funnier, also, but it's still quite solid. There are many good-to-great scenes in a row, particularly their encounter with John Goodman, "Baby Face" Nelson, and the Sirens. The soundtrack is a big plus too, especially if you like folk music. But most of all, there's just a nice mix of influences and filmmaking in this one that allows it to be very enjoyable.
"We - thought - you - was - a - toad!"
***/****
9. The Big Lebowski (1998)
This movie has undeniable charm, but I don't understand its cult status. Don't get me wrong, there are some brilliant scenes. The opening credits are pretty neat, the scene where The Dude and Walter confront the kid is hilarious ("DO YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS, LARRY?!"), and the best scene is the bowling sequence for "Just Dropped In (To See What Condition My Condition Was In)." Speaking of music, there are some great choices such as the Spanish "Hotel California" and "The Man in Me" by Bob Dylan during the credits and the scene where The Dude is flying over the city.
However, barring those scene and a few good jokes here and there, I just don't think the movie is that funny. In addition to that, Walter is a very unlikeable character as well are a few other supporting characters. Also, I can't tell if Sam Elliott's character is supposed to be satire or is just really pretentious. Either way, I don't like his inclusion.
***/****
10. Raising Arizona (1987)
Raising Arizona is one of those movies I always remember as being better. In reality it’s an uneven movie with some great and funny scenes here and there, but also some dull and weak moments. There’s also this pure Coen absurdist touch involving the lone biker I really like, but even his role doesn’t fit into the movie as well as it could have. I think the mistake was later revealing him as an actual character that was hired for a job. Personally, I think they should have kept him on the side of fantasy and symbolism.
***/****
11. No Country For Old Men
You look at directors like Woody Allen, Alfred Hitchcock and the Coen brothers, to name a few, and it doesn't take long to realize all of their movies are kind of the same (among similar directors, I mean). The trick to making hit after hit is not allowing the viewer to notice all the similarities to the previous movies. No Country For Old Men does not do this.
No Country For Old Men is Fargo meets The Terminator. Only this time the characters aren't near as interesting. Tommy Lee Jones plays the part of Francis McDormand as the neutral cop who overlooks everything going on in the movie, the sin and greed, and shakes their head. I don't think this movie is as deep as it would like to be. All it says about sin and fate has been said before in better ways, occasionally by the Coen brothers. Also, the idea that every age is worse than the last in respect to crime, sin and apathy is a myth. There have always been homicidal psychopaths.
There are however some great scenes, such as the time when Llewelyn finds the aftermath of the drug shootout, and the battle between him and Chigurh at the hotel where we almost never see the shooter.
**.5/****
12. The Ladykillers (2004)
The Ladykillers is a comedy that mostly relies on physical humor which is a bit hit and miss. Missing are jokes about IBS, and hitting is an ever changing painting. While the writing might be sub-par by Coen standards, the thing this movie has going for it are the characters. Namely Tom Hanks who further proves he can do anything. This is such an odd Coen movie in that it must have more swearing than all their other movies combined, and yet this is going on along with Hanks' character who is very articulate and well-spoken. This movie could have been a lot worse.
**.5/****
13. Miller’s Crossing (1990)
For a good portion of the first half of this movie it's very talky and there's a lot of names thrown around which can be a bit confusing and off-putting for someone like me who is slow to pick up on names. But the second half is more interesting, especially with some key scenes involving the under-appreciated John Turturro.
The main character is kind of dull, however he gets beat up every five minutes, which I guess is something. Also, there's some theme about hats; I guess they symbolize something.
Overall, I find this Coen piece to be pretty average. It's sort of a Noir gangster film, and I don't like noir...or gangster films.
**.5/****
14. Barton Fink (1991)
This movie has always seemed pretty thin to me. There are some recognizable themes such as the irony of Fink's dissasociation with the common man, and there's insane themes where I wouldn't know where to start with. Barton Fink is an interesting character, I'll give it that, but to me the movie is pretty boring.
I feel like if someone explained to me what the hell was going on with this movie and the ending, I would say "Oh, OK, that's clever" and still feel the same way about it.
*.5/****
15. Intolerable Cruelty (2003)
Very few laughs in this Coen comedy about gold diggers. Even the twist is pretty damn obvious before it happens. George Clooney is pretty good in this, the Coen's get a lot out of him in their movies, but not even he could save the script.
On a side note, it's weird that Clooney is once again in love with a woman who walks down steps in a Vegas casino in a red dress admired from afar. Only it's the lead in Ocean's 12 this time, not Ocean's 11.
*.5/****
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Post by Doomsday on Sept 20, 2016 19:06:57 GMT -5
Actually it's Dennis Dugan. Dennis Dugan wouldn't be a bad choice. We can talk shit about Grown Ups 2 and Jack & Jill but what about boyhood favorites like Problem Child and Beverly Hills Ninja? Did he always suck or did Adam Sandler ruin a once beloved comedy director? I mean, Happy Gilmore is a classic and Big Daddy isn't disliked. My original choice was going to be Martin Scorsese however if you review the Dennis Dugan movies with me as I leave them, I'll do him before Marty.
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Post by Neverending on Sept 20, 2016 23:29:30 GMT -5
Dennis Dugan wouldn't be a bad choice. We can talk shit about Grown Ups 2 and Jack & Jill but what about boyhood favorites like Problem Child and Beverly Hills Ninja? Did he always suck or did Adam Sandler ruin a once beloved comedy director? I mean, Happy Gilmore is a classic and Big Daddy isn't disliked. My original choice was going to be Martin Scorsese however if you review the Dennis Dugan movies with me as I leave them, I'll do him before Marty. You ain't tricking me into watching Jack & Jill.
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Post by thebtskink on Sept 21, 2016 0:42:52 GMT -5
My original choice was going to be Martin Scorsese however if you review the Dennis Dugan movies with me as I leave them, I'll do him before Marty. You ain't tricking me into watching Jack & Jill. buck-buck BUUUUUUCK, buck-buck BUCK!
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Post by Deexan on Sept 23, 2016 3:31:33 GMT -5
Lebowski at 9. Jibbs clearly has issues that I don't wanna explore right now.
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Post by Neverending on Sept 23, 2016 5:06:29 GMT -5
Lebowski at 9. Jibbs clearly has issues that I don't wanna explore right now. Wait for his Martin Scorsese list. He has Boxcar Bertha at #1 and Taxi Driver in last place.
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Post by Jibbs on Sept 23, 2016 16:58:01 GMT -5
A lot of people don't love Lebowski!
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Post by Doomsday on Oct 13, 2016 15:00:46 GMT -5
I thought I'd take a stab at doing my own spin-off of an AFI list that came out a few years ago. I would like to begin a series of what I would like to call Doomsday's Top 5s, where I take a genre and make my top 5 movie of each. They won't reflect the exact categories that AFI published (I don't really want to throw my weight behind a Top 5 Courtroom Dramas list) but for the most part they will be. If you have your own lists feel free to post them while eviscerating my selections. First up, Doomsday's Top 5 Romance Movies
5) Say Anything...
I'm not a big fan of Cameron Crowe. I think his characters are fake and his dialogue feels forced however I am very fond of Say Anything. I think most everyone can relate to ups and downs of teenage romance and Say Anything captures it very well. Of all the 80s movies on teen angst I think this is near the top no matter what Breakfast Club or Sixteen Candles has to say. 4) Hannah and Her Sisters
Is this a romance? A drama? A comedy? I guess you could say it's all of the above however it's also my favorite Woody Allen movie. I'm not the world's biggest Woody Allen fan, I think a lot of his films come across as almost pretentious, but this one I think really hit the mark. Hannah and her two sisters navigate the men in their lives, sometimes while sharing the same ones, and navigating their own lives. It's a funny but thought-provoking film about relationships that also has one of my favorite final scenes in a movie. 3) Casablanca
Yeah it sounds cliched, yeah it's on the top of most every list ever. Casablanca though, it's one of the very, very few movies that's just as good as its reputation would lead you to believe. It has great bad guys, tough anti-heroes and is one of the most quotable movies to ever come out of Hollywood. I assume almost everyone reading this has seen it at least once and you all probably have a favorite line or two ('You don't like me do you, Rick?' 'I probably wouldn't if I gave you any thought.' being my personal favorite). Even with the great casting aside, it's still a bummer seeing Rick watch the plane fly away yet it also remains upbeat as he and Louis walk off to start their new lives. I don't really like putting obvious choices on these forum lists but I would by lying if I said I didn't love this movie. 2) The CircusI'm a big Chaplin fan and what's amazing is just how much people enjoy his films almost 100 years later. Whenever I have people watch them, be it City Lights, The Kid or The Circus, I'm always met with 'that was way better than I thought it would be.' The Circus was a later Chaplin discovery of mine but quickly became one of my favorites of his, certainly in my top 3. The Circus has some gags that legitimately make me laugh to this day but also has a pretty heartbreaking story about the Tramp and a lady whose affections he continuously strives to get. The ending might not be very happy but for The Circus it's perfect. 1) Before SunriseBefore Sunrise is one of my favorite movies. Not only that, it has two equally captivating sequels that explore the periods of the lives of Jesse and Celene as they find each other, rediscover each other then are forced to decide if they really want to be together. Before Sunrise uses the backdrop of Vienna to highlight two people as they discuss love, relationships and how they see their lives as they fall in love in a few short hours knowing that it's going to end. This movie really hit me the first time I saw it and has grown on me ever since.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 13, 2016 15:05:46 GMT -5
When Harry Met Sally is #1 and you know it.
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 13, 2016 20:00:23 GMT -5
Great choices. Glad to see someone else loves The Circus as much as I do. I'd chime in with my thoughts, but I might do my own version of the list at some point in the future....
...but the right film is number one.
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Post by IanTheCool on Oct 16, 2016 9:55:06 GMT -5
Any list of romance films that excludes Gnomeo and Juliet is invalid.
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Post by Doomsday on Nov 1, 2016 18:00:31 GMT -5
Doomsday's Top 5 Mystery/Noir Movies
5) Rebecca (1940)
Alfred Hitchcock's film from 1940 is the only Hitchcock work to win an Oscar for Best Picture. Admittedly, I wasn't too turned on when I first sat down to watch it but as soon as the 'twist' occurred halfway in I was thrown for a loop. It quickly became one of my favorite Hitchcock movies that I think is sadly underappreciated nowadays but even though it's eclipsed by the likes of Psycho or Vertigo it's a very enjoyable movie. 4) Zodiac (2007)
It's not every day I see a movie not really knowing what to expect and being totally impressed and surprised. That was my feeling with Zodiac, David Fincher's criminally underrated movie that's amazingly already a decade old. Rather than focus on the investigation for the Zodiac killer, the movie centers around a San Francisco Chronicle cartoonist (Jake Gyllenhaal) who starts his own personal, years-long investigation. With great performances by Gyllenhaal, Robert Downey Jr. and a solid supporting cast, Zodiac is a fresh, highly enjoyable and equally creepy movie. The use of Donovan's Hurdy Gurdy Man is just amazing. 3) Double Indemnity (1944)
On paper Double Indemnity is sounds like a simple concept using some very unique players. Rather than a cop or criminal or some deadbeat private investigator, Fred MacMurray plays an insurance salesman who falls for a desperate housewife. He presents her with a life insurance policy for her husband along with a 'double indemnity' clause where the claim is paid out at twice the rate under the right accidental circumstance. Once the plan has been carried out and the pair carries out the murder, a nosey claims adjuster (Edward G. Robinson) gets suspicious and slowly but surely the plan starts to unwind. Directed by one of my favorite directors Billy Wilder, Double Indemnity is a sharp movie that shows little aging over 70 years later. 2) M (1931)
Is M a mystery movie? I think it is and it's also a whole lot more. I'm not adding M onto this list to sound like some movie buff or have it look more diverse, I'm adding it because it's a damn awesome movie by both 1931 and 2016 standards. I've watched it maybe 10 times since getting the blu ray and it holds up as well as any great movie from that time period. How it handles pedophilia, child murder and revenge is still chilling. The tell-tale ball rolling away or balloon swaying in the wind says enough about the subject matter as well as the killer played by Peter Lorre of Casablanca fame. You hate the murderer, then you're caught up in the hunt before finally feeling almost sorry for him. M rounds all the suspenseful and emotional bases which makes it a great, timeless film. 1) L.A. Confidential (1997)
One of the best movies of the 90s, L.A. Confidential is a modern film noir gem that has certainly stood the test of time. It stars Russell Crowe and Guy Pearce before they were Russell Crowe and Guy Pearce as detectives in 1950s Los Angeles who delve into the underbelly of old Hollywood, narcotics and dirty cops. Kim Basinger also turns in an Oscar-winning performance as a 'whore cut to look like Veronica Lake' who plays cops against one another against the backdrop of mob dealings and police corruption. One of the best ensemble casts in recent memory and a razor sharp script make L.A. Confidential mandatory viewing and arguably one of the best crime dramas, period. And speaking of seeing classic movies in theaters, this is one I'm going to hit next Saturday.
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Post by PG Cooper on Nov 1, 2016 18:38:03 GMT -5
Great list with some great choices. My only real bone to pick is Rebecca. Good movie, but I wouldn't have it over Vertigo, The Third Man, or Chinatown.
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Post by Jibbs on Nov 1, 2016 18:48:37 GMT -5
Rebecca's awesome. So is Zodiac.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Nov 1, 2016 20:28:26 GMT -5
Well I'm always up for a good debate. The Third Man, Touch of Evil, Chinatown, The Maltese Falcon, The Big Sleep, Vertigo, Out of the Past? I'd put all of those well ahead of Rebecca and Zodiac, but I can't complain about the top 3. Zodiac isn't even Fincher's best mystery movie. *Munches on popcorn, sips tea*
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Post by Dracula on Nov 1, 2016 20:33:54 GMT -5
Noir/mystery just seems like such a broad category, I don't know how I'd go about narrowing that down to five movies.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Nov 1, 2016 20:57:19 GMT -5
Zodiac isn't even Fincher's best mystery movie. *Munches on popcorn, sips tea* Seven or Gone Girl? Personally, I'd say Seven.
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Post by Doomsday on Nov 1, 2016 21:01:32 GMT -5
Well I'm always up for a good debate. The Third Man, Touch of Evil, Chinatown, The Maltese Falcon, The Big Sleep, Vertigo, Out of the Past? I'd put all of those well ahead of Rebecca and Zodiac, but I can't complain about the top 3. Zodiac isn't even Fincher's best mystery movie. *Munches on popcorn, sips tea* These aren't what I would consider the best movies, only my personal preferences. I've watched each movie several times while at the same time as much as I admire Maltese Falcon and Vertigo they aren't necessarily my favorite movies nor do I have any strong desire to watch them anytime soon (I was never huge on Vertigo, have at me). I do love Out of the Past though, I haven't seen that movie in years. You just gave me something to do this weekend. That's one of my issues when people make 'lists' especially any 'best of' types. No matter how many movies I see I don't think I could bring myself to say 'this one is the best and it's better than this movie but not as good as that movie.' I'm not overly fond of The Graduate, it's good but would never appear on any favorite movies list. I would feel disingenuous to put it on some list just for the sake of including a popular, well known movie. Then what's the point? I keep mine personal, it makes it more subjective and it's much more enjoyable when you guys come chew me out in these threads. Otherwise it would be boring. 'Oh, Citizen Kane again. Yahoo.'
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Nov 1, 2016 21:43:00 GMT -5
Zodiac isn't even Fincher's best mystery movie. *Munches on popcorn, sips tea* Seven or Gone Girl? Personally, I'd say Seven. I like both of those more than Zodiac, but yeah I'd lean towards Seven if I had to choose.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Nov 1, 2016 21:46:28 GMT -5
Well I'm always up for a good debate. The Third Man, Touch of Evil, Chinatown, The Maltese Falcon, The Big Sleep, Vertigo, Out of the Past? I'd put all of those well ahead of Rebecca and Zodiac, but I can't complain about the top 3. Zodiac isn't even Fincher's best mystery movie. *Munches on popcorn, sips tea* These aren't what I would consider the best movies, only my personal preferences. I've watched each movie several times while at the same time as much as I admire Maltese Falcon and Vertigo they aren't necessarily my favorite movies nor do I have any strong desire to watch them anytime soon (I was never huge on Vertigo, have at me). I do love Out of the Past though, I haven't seen that movie in years. You just gave me something to do this weekend. That's one of my issues when people make 'lists' especially any 'best of' types. No matter how many movies I see I don't think I could bring myself to say 'this one is the best and it's better than this movie but not as good as that movie.' I'm not overly fond of The Graduate, it's good but would never appear on any favorite movies list. I would feel disingenuous to put it on some list just for the sake of including a popular, well known movie. Then what's the point? I keep mine personal, it makes it more subjective and it's much more enjoyable when you guys come chew me out in these threads. Otherwise it would be boring. 'Oh, Citizen Kane again. Yahoo.' Ha, no you're definitely right, I know this is just your personal tastes and your goal isn't to compile a definitive "best of the best" list I just had to argue for the sake of doing so. I'm just a big fan of noir so I wanted to grill you a little on it. Like I said, can't argue with the top 3, it's Rebecca and Zodiac that caught my attention. Didn't expect to see those two on there, but I think both are very strong films.
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 2, 2016 8:00:51 GMT -5
Well I'm always up for a good debate. The Third Man, Touch of Evil, Chinatown, The Maltese Falcon, The Big Sleep, Vertigo, Out of the Past? I'd put all of those well ahead of Rebecca and Zodiac, but I can't complain about the top 3. Zodiac isn't even Fincher's best mystery movie. *Munches on popcorn, sips tea* Correct, Curious Case of Benjamin Button was. The mystery is, why did the people involved think this was a good idea?
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