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Post by Dracula on Dec 4, 2016 18:41:02 GMT -5
1985Best FilmRan Brazil Mishima: A Life In Four Chapters After Hours Back To the Future Winner: Ran Worst FilmFriday the 13th, Part V: A New Beginning Rocky IV Crimewave Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge, A Overdrawn at the Memory Bank "Winner": Overdrawn at the Memory Bank Best TV ShowCheers (Season 3) The Cosby Show (Season 1) Miami Vice (Season 1) Moonlighting (Season 1) Who's the Boss (Season 1) Winner: Moonlighting Best Video GameGauntlet (Arcade)
Gauntlet was an interesting game that was ahead of its time in a lot of ways. It was an attempt to apply elements of role playing and adventure gaming into an arcade setting. It allowed you to have four different characters on screen at a time and also let you play as different character classes. It was all very action oriented with tons of enemies on screen at the same time but also made you explore the locations and collect items. It also had actual voice effects, which was pretty rare at the time. Ghosts N' Goblins (NES)
Above all, Ghosts N' Goblins is known for being hella hard. Just a totally unforgiving game that allowed for few mistakes. There was however a lot going for it that made you want to keep trying to get through it. In the game you played a knight whose girlfriend is kidnapped by satan and you're forced to charge through the countryside murdering various ghouls, ghosts, goblins, and devils with your lances along the way. The game is sadistically hard and decidedly not fair, but people have a lot of good memories of it just the same. Space Harrier (Arcade)
Space Harrier was an arcade game made by Sega and is notable for being one of the first behind the back third person games and essentially for being one of the first on rails shooter... and that doesn't even come close to describing how truly nuts the game is. It a delirious fever dream where you're flying shirtless jeans wearing hero shoots at all sorts of trippy monsters including long flying dragons. Super Mario Brothers (NES)
Do I need to explain this one? Um, set the standard for sidescrollers, really tight control and level design, made the NES a success, you kill a dragon by taking out the bridge from under him... it's good. Tennis (NES)
This one probably does need some explaining as it really is not a fondly remembered game for the most part. It's a very basic tennis simulation for the NES with no licenced players and few game modes. More of a pong like thing than a true sports simualtion in a number of ways, this was a very fun way to kill some time while listening to audio books or something. The controls took some getting used to but you could eventually get the hang of it and when you could get a real volley going eventually it could be very rewarding and there was a lot of suspense in making sure you ended up on the right side of those epic volleys. Winner: Mario Best Song"Everybody Wants to Rule the World" by Tears for FearsDon't Let the quality of the other songs here fool you, 1985 was in fact a terrible year for popular music and I kind of had to struggle to pick a fifth song for this slot. I ended up going with this one even though I kind of hate the singer's voice. This is an interesting song that probably would have been better served if it hadn't been written by a cheesy synth pop act. It has this sort of dark but oddly truthful subject matter which doesn't seem specific to any particular world condition but seems like it could apply to a lot of different conflicts. It also has a really strong bridge that carries it home. "Glory Days" By Bruce Springsteen and the E Street BandWith the song "Born in the USA" Bruce Springsteen famously hid progressive lyrics that questioned American values under what sounded like a dumb patriotic anthem. He did something kind of similar with Glory Days, but I think the message kind of comes through a bit clearer: don't let yourself peak in high school, try do do somehting better with your life or you're going to find yourself self-medicating and wishing for former glories. It's a tough andidote for a genre that so often glorifies "small town values" and shows how corrosive that shit really can be. "Raspberry Beret" by Prince
I couldn't really find a good video for this on Youtube, apparently Prince's hatred of online music lives on even if the man himself doesn't. Just the same, this is clearly one of his best singles. The song was made while Prince was experimenting with some world music elements and was also starting to incorporate some string instruments into his songs. Those strings are really what sets it apart from some of his other songs from the era and it's also got some pretty tantalizing lyrics about this beret wearing wild child who went in through the out door. "Take on Me" by A-HaThis song is probably about as well known for its still kind of impressive today music video with all the live action/pensil sketch animation hybrid effects, but the song is a nice slice of eighties synth pop. Those opening synth riffs are emblematic of their time and very energetic. The lyrics are a little... well they sound like they were written by someone who doesn't have a strong grasp of the English language, but the singer does sell them pretty well and the beat is catchy. You'd have to be an asshole with a monkey wrench to not be at least a little down with it. "Walking on Sunshine" by Katrina and the WavesWhat a fun and joyful little song. I'm not entirely sure what makes the song work so perfectly, is it the brass section in the back? Maybe. Maybe it's Katrina's ability to make the Whoa-ohhs work as well as she does. Maybe it's the pace that the drummer is keeping. Whatever it is, there's some real skill in making something this shiny and upbeat without having it seem like cloying bubblegum mush. It's probably been used in a billion different commercials and TV shows and I can see why. Winner: Prince
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Post by Deexan on Dec 5, 2016 9:18:27 GMT -5
Shoutout to the days when you could call a video game just 'Tennis'.
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Post by Dracula on Dec 10, 2016 11:48:03 GMT -5
1984Best FilmAmadeus Blood Simple Terminator, The Killing Fields, The Ghostbusters Winner: Amadeus Worst FilmSixteen Candles Children of the Corn Revenge of the Nerds Friday the 13th, Part 4: The Final Chapter Police Academy "Winner": Police Academy Best TV ShowCheers (Season 2) Hill Street Blues (Season 4) The Jeffersons (Season 10) NewHart (Season 2) St. Elsewhere (Season 2) Winner: St. Elsewhere Best Video Game1942 (Arcade)
The space/airplane shooter genre was pretty important in the earlier days of video games and while 1942 didn't revolutionize it it was an interesting little evolution along the way. The game, a not overly realistic depiction of World War II air combat, had the player flying over Earth based locations which had you flying over realistic topography and had other cool touches like aircraft carrier landings. Duck Hunt (NES)
You'd think that given that the NES lightgun was included in all early sales of the system that it would have been more widely used though the console's lifetime, but for the most part we've just been left with the immortal duck hunt, a famous game in which you shot hapless ducks... with a handgun. It's a pretty primitive lightgun game (and one which is hard to play now given that it doesn't work at all on HDTVs) but it had some cool touches that made it so memorable like that dog assistant. Marble Madness (Arcade)
Talk about something that was ahead of its time, this was a game that was played on a 3D plane and had realistic physics. In arcades the game would actually be played with a trackball instead of a joystick. It was a really unique puzzle game and there weren't really a whole lot like it in its wake. It's a bit abstract and contextless, but certainly interesting and fun. Paper Boy (Arcade)
Were there still kids doing paper routes in 1984 or was it already an anachronism by then? Whatever. The idea of a video game based on a heightened version of an occupation remains an interesting idea and the way the game had you playing on this diagonal line on the right side of the screen was interesting. I always found the game a little hard to control, and targeting the papers right was always tough, but this was an early game and it given the unique premise it remains important. Tetris (Elektronica 60)
Tetris originally made its official debut on a Soviet era home computer called the Elektronica 60. Youtube videos seems to suggest that while the graphics on this version were extremely simplistic it is still the same great gameplay that would be made famous on countless other systems. Countless hours have been spent playing this game, one that's widely enjoyed by non-gamers, and anyone sucked into it knows how easy it is to start seeing those damn blocks everywhere once you've played it long enough. Winner: Те́трис Best Song"99 Luftballons" by NenaForeign language hits are rare, but it's always interesting when one comes along. Apparantly Nena made an English version of this which caught on in the UK and Canada, but it was the original "auf deutch" version that caught on in America and Australia. The song is actually about a Dr. Strangelove style series of misunderstandings in which a baloon release are mistaken for missles leading to nuclear war between East and West... an idea silly enough that it's probably best that the details were obscured by a language barrier, but you can kind of pick up on it's real meaning what with the abundance of the word "kreig" and that somber last verse. Otherwise the production is 80s as fuck, but the vocals remain intriguing. "Dance Hall Days" by Wang ChungWang Chung are most famous for a rather dreadful song called "Everybody Have Fun Tonight," which makes zero sense to me because their second biggest hit is a much better slice of cheesy 80s hitmaking. The song is sort of a poppier re-write of the Led Zeppelin song "Dancing Days" for a much sillier decade, but there is a real nostalgia to the song remembering younger days of going out to clubs and meeting young ladies. "Give it Up" by KC & The Sunshine BandI didn't much care for the movie "Kingsmen: The Secret Service" but I will forever be grateful that it brought this song to my attention. Disco was very dead by 1984 but some of the bigger acts from that era had managed to hang on a little. Kool & The Gang had some hits this year... very bad hits that no one remembers, but they were still around. KC and The Sunshine Band seems to have hung on as well but stayed closer to their old song and while they were eventually swallowed up they did leave us this last little gem with a really solid groove and tight horn section. "Time After Time" by Cyndi Lauper"Girls Just Want to Have Fun" is certainly Cyndi Lauper's more famous song from 1984, but I've always found the follow-up ballad to have a little more resonance and staying power even if both songs are pretty damn dated. I think the key to its success is probably in the rythem section which give it a pretty good foundation groove, but that chorus does really work quite well. "When Doves Cry" by PrinceWas this the best popular song of the 80s? Probably. The song is famous for being an R&B song that manages to create an incredible goove even though it actually doesn't have a bassline. That is not the kind of experimentation you normally expect out of the biggest selling of pop music, but such was the talents of Prince in his prime that he could play to a mass audience while making inovative art at the same time. The lyrics are also tantalizing and cryptic. Clearly the song is playing on the dysfunctional family dynamics from the Purple Rain movie but it also has some of his signature kink in there too (animals strike curious poses indeed). The song is the ultimate coming together of Prince's instrumental prowess, studio mastery, songwriting ability, and just general creative brilliance. Winner: When Doves Cry
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Post by IanTheCool on Dec 10, 2016 13:25:00 GMT -5
Wow, how can you pick between so many great video games?
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Post by IanTheCool on Dec 10, 2016 13:25:51 GMT -5
Also, you forgot to tap.
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Post by PG Cooper on Dec 10, 2016 15:48:47 GMT -5
No Spinal Tap for best film? You broke my heart, Drac.
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Post by Dracula on Dec 10, 2016 17:00:24 GMT -5
No Spinal Tap for best film? You broke my heart, Drac. ... wasn't even my sixth choice.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 10, 2016 18:08:57 GMT -5
Best TV ShowCheers (Season 2) Hill Street Blues (Season 4) The Jeffersons (Season 10) NewHart (Season 2) St. Elsewhere (Season 2) Winner: St. Elsewhere Don't be a pussy.
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Post by Dracula on Dec 10, 2016 18:17:55 GMT -5
I've never really cared that much for The Cosby Show. It's amusing-ish, but I've never found it terribly funny really.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 10, 2016 20:12:26 GMT -5
I've never really cared that much for The Cosby Show. It's amusing-ish, but I've never found it terribly funny really. There's no way season 10 of The Jeffersons is better than season 1 of The Cosby Show.
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Post by Dracula on Dec 10, 2016 20:42:26 GMT -5
I've never really cared that much for The Cosby Show. It's amusing-ish, but I've never found it terribly funny really. There's no way season 10 of The Jeffersons is better than season 1 of The Cosby Show. I doubt it, The Jeffersons was really consistent.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 10, 2016 22:04:56 GMT -5
There's no way season 10 of The Jeffersons is better than season 1 of The Cosby Show. I doubt it, The Jeffersons was really consistent. No, it isn't. Firstly, the Fake Lionel episodes are terrible. I hate that guy. And secondly, the show had lost its edge in the 80's since Norman Lear left and the Married with Children people took over. Ron Leavitt and Michael G. Moye are awesome, but it just wasn't the same show. It lost the political/social commentary and got sitcom-y. The same shit happened to All in the Family when Gloria and Meathead got replaced by the little girl and became Archie Bunker's Place. And let's not forget Good Times when J.J. "Dynomite" Walker took over. Basically, none of Norman Lear's shows were consistent except for maybe Maude and some of the shorter running shows.
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Post by Dracula on Dec 10, 2016 22:14:00 GMT -5
I doubt it, The Jeffersons was really consistent. No, it isn't. Firstly, the Fake Lionel episodes are terrible. I hate that guy. And secondly, the show had lost its edge in the 80's since Norman Lear left and the Married with Children people took over. Ron Leavitt and Michael G. Moye are awesome, but it just wasn't the same show. It lost the political/social commentary and got sitcom-y. The same shit happened to All in the Family when Gloria and Meathead got replaced by the little girl and became Archie Bunker's Place. And let's not forget Good Times when J.J. "Dynomite" Walker took over. Basically, none of Norman Lear's shows were consistent except for maybe Maude and some of the shorter running shows. Maybe you're right. Honestly I only really know these shows from syndication, I have zero idea what their real chronologies were and I wouldn't be shocked if some of the crappier episodes got dropped during reruns.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 10, 2016 22:33:52 GMT -5
I have zero idea what their real chronologies were If you see the real Lionel and George Jefferson has that bald man afro, it's an early season. If you see the fake Lionel, it's a mid-run season. If you see the original Lionel but George Jefferson looks like he did on Amen (remember that show) it's one of the later seasons. The last few seasons DID have their standout episodes. The Martin Luther King Jr one is really good and generally considered one of their best episodes. But that was like... season 6. You're talking season 10! You can't even get season 10 on DVD unless you buy the complete series box set. That's how unfavorable it is.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 10, 2016 22:58:58 GMT -5
Looking at the 1984-85 TV season, the standouts were: It's Your Move - That was the short-lived Jason Bateman show created by Ron Leavitt and Michael G. Moye (Married with Children). Bateman plays a Zack Morris type character who's always going against his neighbor, played by David Garrison (Steve on Married with Children). It was a Dennis the Menace for the 80's. Magnum, P.I. was still doing well at the time. That show was actually pretty good/great until the final season (1987-88) when it got pretty stupid. The Cosby Show was great. Family Ties was still doing well. Cheers was still great. thebtskink is probably gonna mention all the classic action/adventure shows of the time, like Knight Rider and A-Team and things like that, but I'm not super well-versed on those shows. Moonlighting and Remington Steele were pretty good - from what I've seen. Night Court is good. On the children's side: Muppet Babies! The Charlie Brown and Snoopy Show! The New Scooby-Doo Mysteries was an improvement. Alvin and the Chipmunks was... good? Transformers and Voltron premiered that year.
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Post by IanTheCool on Dec 11, 2016 1:26:53 GMT -5
How do you know this?
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Post by Deexan on Dec 11, 2016 12:54:31 GMT -5
You are all overlooking the frankly criminal choice of Police Academy as worst movie of the year.
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Post by thebtskink on Dec 11, 2016 13:04:28 GMT -5
Night Court was awesome.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 11, 2016 13:59:10 GMT -5
You are all overlooking the frankly criminal choice of Police Academy as worst movie of the year. Dracula has been trolling with his worst-of choices. I haven't watched an episode of Night Court since the 90's. My local Fox station aired reruns at, like, 3 in the morning. I don't know if they were trying to be funny with that time slot or if it just worked out that way. This station was really hardcore into news. They aired 10 hours of local news every day. The only syndicated shows I remember watching on that station was Night Court, Archie Bunker's Heat of the Night and Amen with George Jefferson.
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1983Best FilmRight Stuff, The Scarface King of Comedy, The Videodrome Dead Zone, The Winner: The Right Stuff Worst FilmTwilight Zone: The Movie, The Strange Brew Jaws 3-D Winner: Jaws 3-D Best TV ShowNewHart (Season 1) Cheers (Season 1) Taxi (Season 5) St. Elsewhere (Season 1) MASH (Season 11) Winner: MASH Best Video GameDragon's Lair (Arcade)
Confession: though I'm nominating this game I've never actually played it or even seen a Dragon's Lair cabinet in an arcade, but from what I've heard actually playing this thing is the least fun part of it. The game was part of a short lived trend where an arcade machine would essentially play a laser disc and have the early chapter selection feature of that medium to allow the player to sort of guide the character. The result was graphical capabilities that were vastly beyond anything else in video games but very minimal control from the player, more or less requiring you to memorize a series of button prompts. The most famous of these was Dragon's Lair, which featured original animation by Don Bluth as you guided a knight on a quest to save a princess. I've watched the whole thing on youtube and it's pretty cool looking. Mario Brothers (Arcade)
A lot of casual gamers don't even know that there was a Mario before Super Mario Brothers but that game needed to be designated super for a reason. This arcade classic is at once similar to and different from its more famous little brother. It's still a platformer about jumping, but the stages don't really scroll and the goal is to bump the ground below your enemies rather than to jump on top of them. It's mostly supposed to be played cooperatively, but it's also very possible to fuck over the second player in a number of amusing ways. It's cool that this would form the basis of something bigger and better, but the original is a classic in its own right. Sinistar (Arcade)
Sinistar was kind of a landmark achievement for it's time, a triple A blockbuster in a time before the phrase existed. I don't know that it was the first game that could be said to have a boss battle or voice acting but it's certainly notable for having both and it was way more complex than most space games. It forced you to go around "mining" smart bombs from asteroids while fending off enemy space craft. All the while the Sinistar is forming and taunting you and once he comes alive you're going to need those smart bombs badly. An unprecedented experience. Spy Hunter (Arcade)
Pretty much the closest thing to a good James Bond game we'd get for decades, Spy Hunter was basically a simulation of a chase in a Q labs modified car complete with machine guns, oil slicks and the like and had a lot of neat touches like the way your car went in and out of a truck and could even convert into a speed boat. It also had a very cool chipTune rendition of the "Peter Gunn" theme that played throughout. Personally, I was never any good at the game, but it was still very cool for its time. Star Wars (Arcade)
It's no secret that there's a lot of money to be made off of Star Wars, and that's what led Atari to go all out with their arcade game licensed from Star Wars. The game used vector graphics to recreate the Death Star battle from the first film. At first glance that would seem to make this one of the most impressive games of its era, but it's ambition is also a weakness. If you know what you're doing you can beat the game in all of two minutes and then you just have to do it all over again to try to run up you're score. It hasn't aged beautifully, but it was a good achievement just the same. Winner: Sinistar Best Hit Song"Billie Jean" by Michael JacksonI don't know that 1983 was an exceptionally great year for music overall, but if you were to judge it for its top five best hits you no one would blame you for thinking so. All five of these nominees are stone cold 80s classics. Of course the year would probably be best remembered for being the year Michael Jackson's Thriller (which was released on November 30th 1982) took over radio. "Beat It" was probably ultimately the more famous of its singles, that song has the weakness of forcing to listener to pretend that Michael Jackson was in any way capable of breaking up a gang fight and that is... laughable. Billy Jean on the other hand, all you have to accept to roll with that one is that Michael Jackson has not impregnated a woman... which is eminently believable. "Every Breath You Take" by The Police"Every Breath You Take" is one of those songs that became such a victim of overplay even to this day that it's easy to take it for granted but in its sheer simplicity it is a really impressively crafted little song. It's one of those songs that everyone thinks is a straightforward love song but which is actually kind of menacing if you think about what Sting is saying. It's essentially a song told from the perspective of a stalker and his interest in this lady is kind of creepy. But, it has a really great bass line so it's easy to not think of that. "Little Red Corvette" by PrincePrince's early work was all about him reconciling the "fast" women in his life with the misogynistic view of women that had instilled in him by his religious upbringing. The purest distillation of this is probably in "Little Red Corvette," a song that is decidedly not about a car. Describing a Saturday night one night stand with a woman who is very comfortable in her sexuality, the song does come dangerously close to being a full on slut shaming anthem but there is something honest and interesting about the way the song teeters around the virgin/whore complex and it also very vividly paints a picture of this whole encounter with a lot of atmosphere. "Sweet Dreams(Are Made of This)" by EurythmicsThis is one of those songs that seems to show up constantly in movies and in commercials, and it's not hard to see why. That synth riff is unstoppable and the chorus is both strongly worded and also vague in a way that is enticing. Who are these "abusers" who might want to "be abused?" Is this song about S&M? And who is this lady who's traveled the world and the seven seas? Truth be told, the song might work better in snippets in other media than it does when you listen to the whole thing. That "movin' on" part kind of kills the vibe, still, total New Wave classic. "Total Eclipse of the Heart" by Bonnie Tyler"Total Eclipse of the Heart" was written by Jim Steinman, who is otherwise most famous for writing the music on Meat Loaf's Bat Out of Hell albums and he had apparently originally written the song to be part of a Broadway musical based on Nosferatu. This both A. makes me desperately wish that musical had been produced and B. explains a lot about why that song is what it is. It doesn't take a whole lot of imagination to conjure up images of a dude dressed in a Count Orlock costume saying "turn around bright eyes" as his vampire bride mourning her immortality and insist that she needs him more than ever. But let's think less about the song's origins and more about how fuckin' epic it is on its own terms. The way the song sort of builds up to a peak, crashes down, then builds up to and even bigger peak is really effective and when Tyler is going on like she's shouting at the heavens is kind of powerful. Winner: Prince
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Post by Neverending on Dec 17, 2016 17:58:37 GMT -5
DraculaJust to clarify, Mario Bros is chronologically the first Super Mario game. It gives the whole backstory. Mario and Luigi are Italian-American plumbers fighting creatures coming from the sewers of New York. Without this game, the other games make zero sense. You'll just be scratching your head and wondering how a New York plumber ended up fighting dinosaurs and rescuing a Princess.
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Post by Dracula on Dec 17, 2016 18:20:26 GMT -5
Dracula Just to clarify, Mario Bros is chronologically the first Super Mario game. It gives the whole backstory. Mario and Luigi are Italian-American plumbers fighting creatures coming from the sewers of New York. Without this game, the other games make zero sense. You'll just be scratching your head and wondering how a New York plumber ended up fighting dinosaurs and rescuing a Princess. Hmmm... where does Donkey Kong fit into this?
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Post by Neverending on Dec 17, 2016 18:58:04 GMT -5
Dracula Just to clarify, Mario Bros is chronologically the first Super Mario game. It gives the whole backstory. Mario and Luigi are Italian-American plumbers fighting creatures coming from the sewers of New York. Without this game, the other games make zero sense. You'll just be scratching your head and wondering how a New York plumber ended up fighting dinosaurs and rescuing a Princess. Hmmm... where does Donkey Kong fit into this? Not sure those games are canon. Both Mario AND Donkey Kong evolved into completely different characters.
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Post by Dracula on Dec 17, 2016 19:19:49 GMT -5
Hmmm... where does Donkey Kong fit into this? Not sure those games are canon. Both Mario AND Donkey Kong evolved into completely different characters. Well, the Donkey Kong of the Donkey Kong Country games is actually the grand son of the original Donkey Kong (who is that old bearded "Crankey Kong" guy in those games) and the son of Donkey Kong Junior. This implies that the DKs age regularly while Mario/Jumpman is immortal...
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Post by Neverending on Dec 17, 2016 22:37:58 GMT -5
Not sure those games are canon. Both Mario AND Donkey Kong evolved into completely different characters. Well, the Donkey Kong of the Donkey Kong Country games is actually the grand son of the original Donkey Kong (who is that old bearded "Crankey Kong" guy in those games) and the son of Donkey Kong Junior. This implies that the DKs age regularly while Mario/Jumpman is immortal... I guess Mario was just an asshole at some point.
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