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Post by Neverending on Sept 5, 2019 20:12:14 GMT -5
This is Part 3 in my series: Substituting for SnoBorderZeroPart 1 and Part 2This Australian film, from the director of The Ba-Ba-Dooook, is set in 1825 during what’s known as The Black Wars. Long story short, Deexan’s villainous English ancestors were colonizing Australia and killing off Aboriginals (known as “the blacks” for whatever reason). The plot of the movie centers on an Irish woman (played by an Italian actress for some reason) who’s a prisoner of the English army and getting repeatedly raped by the Lieutenant (played by the blonde curly haired dude from Hunger Games: Catching Fire). When I say repeatedly, I ain’t kidding. There’s three rape scenes within the first 15-20 minutes. Anyway, the woman has a husband and child and the husband is fed up with the Lieutenant. In a failed attempt to seek vengeance on the Lieutenant, he gets himself and the child killed by English soldiers. Distraught, what follows is the woman (along with an Aboriginal) on a journey to get revenge against the Lieutenant and his English soldiers. If this were a Mel Gibson movie — or Doomsday making a homage to Mel Gibson, it would be fucking amazing. Unfortunately, it’s a Dracula/ PG Cooper film so we gotta sit through nearly two and a half hours of a woman having an emotional meltdown. That’s fine. It’s a very well-made historical drama. However, it’s also very anticlimactic. It’s 2019. If there’s anyone we can discriminate against it’s the goddamn English. Just kill some motherfuckers. Don’t say you’re doing a revenge story and then not do anything with it. It just makes your protagonist look weak. It’s 2019. You don’t want two hours of a woman crying like a little bitch. Give her a musket and have her kill some motherfuckers. This what happens when you let a woman direct. They fuck it up.
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Post by frankyt on Sept 5, 2019 21:18:33 GMT -5
Also saw this last night. I enjoyed it but it was definitely a little overlong, I think they had a bunch of ideas that didn't quite all mesh. Again I enjoyed the movie it's well made beautifully shot, the slow chase scene for the first Brit on the docket was actually very tense. I loved mangana through and through, wanted a little more comeuppance for the final two ****s but it was still solid.
It's kind of a lesser revenant in some ways with a little extra storyline added from the lessons learned from the road movie parts. But they certainly earn the violence that comes towards the end, which isn't as bad as reviews may say, the first 30 minutes are def the brutal parts.
Give this a dug it from me. Solidly dug it.
7/10
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Post by Neverending on Sept 5, 2019 22:21:40 GMT -5
it was definitely a little overlong We certainly didn’t need the old couple. That reeked of “not all white folks are bad.” And I would have been fine if the movie had ended at the cantina (?) scene.
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Post by frankyt on Sept 5, 2019 22:33:42 GMT -5
That woulda been nice (ending in the cantina) and maybe have been more poignant but what had precluded those scenes even just a few minutes beforehand we knew that wasn't gonna be the end.
Def was checking my watch towards the end.
Still liked it though. Didn't think they took too many chances with their decisions to be such an indie release though. I would have assumed there was an audience for this (fucking green book for fucks sakes...) But I guess I can assume where test audiences tuned out.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 23, 2019 15:50:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deexan on Oct 23, 2019 16:49:10 GMT -5
Does this have the potential to become an LGBT symbol like da Baba?
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Post by Dracula on Oct 23, 2019 17:19:09 GMT -5
Does this have the potential to become an LGBT symbol like da Baba? Not a chance.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 23, 2019 18:11:54 GMT -5
Does this have the potential to become an LGBT symbol like da Baba? Rape: The Movie? Nah, bro.
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Post by Dracula on Nov 3, 2019 23:20:37 GMT -5
The Nightingale(8/17/2019) In 2014 the most buzzed about horror movie, for that matter one of the most buzzed about movies period, was Jennifer Kent’s The Babadook. That movie didn’t really have much of a presence at the box office (the title probably didn’t help) but it’s become a pretty substantial cult hit and remains one of the decades more critically acclaimed horror films. Personally, I wasn’t quite as bullish about the movie as some people, but I think I’ve come around on it a little. When it came out we were kind of drowning in movies about people being haunted by nebulous ghosts and the movie resembled that formula a little too much for me to fully embrace it at the time. Looking back though I think I was maybe being a bit too picky; the movie managed to do a whole lot with a little and its psychological subtext was probably difficult to pull off and the film’s ability to communicate it well was impressive. Removed from the hype I see that it’s quite the accomplishment. But even when I was a Babadook skeptic I was excited to see what Jennifer Kent would do next and now that her second film, The Nightingale, has been released I was excited to go even though I’d heard it was a pretty different kind of movie.
The Nightingale is not really a horror movie and is instead more of a historical revenge movie. The film is set in Australia, and specifically on the island of Tasmania in 1825 when the country was still very much a prison colony and in the midst of what is still known today as the “Black War” between British colonist and the Aboriginal population. The focus is on an Irish woman named Clare (Aisling Franciosi) who was sent to Australia for petty crimes and is married to another convict named Aidan (Michael Sheasby) but still very much a prisoner under the control of a British officer named Lt. Hawkins (Sam Claflin) who uses her as a “nightingale” who sings to the troops to build morale. Unfortunately Hawkins’ possessiveness over Clare extends far past any reason and this obsession results in a night of extreme violence which leaves Clare’s husband and child dead and her both physically and sexually assaulted and left for dead. When she wakes up she learns that Hawkins left the next day to go on a trek across the Tasmanian wilderness in order to fight for a promotion he fears he’ll lose for semi-unrelated reasons. As such Clare decides the only thing to do is to hire (under false pretenses) an aboriginal guide named Billy (Baykali Ganambarr) to find him and his cronies in order to exact revenge.
The Nightingale is a very different movie from The Babadook and fans of one are not necessarily going to be fans of the other. The Nightingale is not really a horror movie so much as it’s a really dark historical revenge movie. I’m not one to give out “trigger warnings” but I’m pretty sure that one would be appropriate for this one given that it contains multiple rape scenes, depictions of genocide, and some graphic violence. The rape-revenge movie is of course something of a dubious genre often rooted in exploitation but this film tends to shy away from genre tropes and leans more on being a character study rooted in its setting. It’s certainly not the first movie to depict 19th Century Australia as a sort of Oceanic old west untamed frontier (John Hillcoat’s The Proposition comes to mind, but I can only assume that there are other examples) and it certainly isn’t the first movie to explore the violent oppression of the aboriginals but it certainly does make that conflict a vivid and apocalyptic background for what is an oddly exciting adventure through the wilderness.
Kent shoots the film in the academy ratio and recreates the period effectively throughout. This isn’t really an “action” movie per se but she does shoot the scenes of violence with panache. Aisling Franciosi does a good job of rendering Clare’s anguish and she and newcomer Baykali Ganambarr have very strong chemistry as the film’s central protagonists as representatives of the underclass being victimized by British imperialism. Sam Claflin is also strong as the film’s villain though I must say that if the film has a weakness it’s that Hawkins as a character is evil to the point of ridiculousness. I’m certainly not naïve to the depths of awfulness that the British colonists were capable of and get that he and his cronies are sort of meant to be a stand-ins for all of that but this guy really seems to go out of his way to be evil above and beyond his own self-interest and by the time they had him casually gunning down a small child for petty reasons I was almost laughing at how thickly they were laying it on. I’m also not entirely sure how I feel about the ending, which seemed like it was going in one of two ways but ended up sort of going in both of them at once in a way that didn’t entirely work. Overall though this is a pretty strong piece of filmmaking and a worthy if unexpected follow-up to The Babadook. I’m not sure what Jennifer Kent is planning to do next with her career but she has my attention all the more after this. **** out of Five
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Post by SnoBorderZero on May 12, 2020 17:05:19 GMT -5
Watched this last night and wasn't a huge fan despite it being an obviously well-made and never dull period revenge film.
First off, what was Kent thinking with that aspect ratio? A movie like this should be at least 1.85:1, boxing the frame in like that served no purpose and just cut down on the potential for showing off the imagery more. A movie like The Lighthouse, yeah that makes sense to narrow the aspect ratio as a stylistic choice. Here it was completely unnecessary and majorly backfired.
The film also suffers from a lot of predictability. Why the brutality is horrid you know it's coming at every turn. This is probably because the antagonists of the film are all immensely one-dimensional caricatures and we know they're either going to rape/murder any of their opposition... which they do, time after time. Perhaps the issue is that we spend too much time with them instead of staying with our protagonist and the Aboriginal character. While they develop a mutual respect for one another, I wouldn't say it ever became what I'd call a bond. Yes, they understand each other through being the Brits' targets of brutality, but their own understanding of one another's cultures never reaches beyond surface level moments.
Finally, the film oddly lacked fluidity. Kent seems uninterested in holding on shots just a little longer for added impact, undercutting her own scenes in multiple instances. It's also just oddly constructed. The coverage doesn't seem like it was great to begin with (probably hamstrung by the aspect ratio in many regards) but the endless scenes of characters trudging through the environment just don't mesh well. None of this is helped either by its repetitive nature and repeated obstacles along the way.
I liked The Babadook but it's got a lot of issues as well, and while Kent is definitely a capable filmmaker I'm not overly impressed by her either. Subtle storytelling and a grasp of visual style does not seem to be in her film vocabulary. That works well enough in a small horror film, but in a larger period piece those weaknesses are far more apparent. Not a bad film, but a disappointing one for me.
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