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Post by Jibbs on Aug 3, 2015 18:39:33 GMT -5
Mission Impossible - Rogue Nation (2015)
Pretty solid. The plot was very forgettable and the humor was average, but with enjoyable characters (especially the new girl, Rebecca Ferguson as the... "MI Girl?") and very exciting action, I was satisfied. It also gets a little long thanks to the bland plot, but it's fine.
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 3, 2015 20:16:06 GMT -5
How would you rate this compared to Ghost Protocol? That was another movie that everybody seemed to like but me and Drac and it sounds kinda the same. Long on action, short on plot.
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Post by Dracula on Aug 3, 2015 20:49:07 GMT -5
How would you rate this compared to Ghost Protocol? That was another movie that everybody seemed to like but me and Drac and it sounds kinda the same. Long on action, short on plot. I liked it better than GP, but the movies are still roughly in the same league. (on a Letterboxd scale I'd probably give GP a three out of five and this a three and a half out of five). The plot is still nothing to take too seriously but it's twistier and generally has more to it than GP did and the movie generally takes its spycraft more seriously than any M:I movie since the first (which isn't saying much). Still has some of the flaws though, the movie's villain works better on paper than in execution and the visual style is kind of vanilla. I enjoyed the movie a lot while watching it, but it's not going to go down as an action movie classic or anything.
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Post by Jibbs on Aug 3, 2015 22:13:58 GMT -5
I think I liked Ghost Protocol better.
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Post by FShuttari on Aug 3, 2015 23:59:52 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this movie from beginning to end. It was great to Simon Pegg get more screentime, he really adds to the whole espianage team style. Also they need to get Jeremy Renner more action he's always sort of in the background.
Ghost Protocol 9.5/10 Rogue Nation 9/10
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Post by IanTheCool on Aug 8, 2015 11:04:07 GMT -5
The Mission Impossible franchise has been around since 1966 and came in the wake of the Bond franchise which popularize spy stories. Yet now, after four other movies, Rogue Nation is the MI film which tries to emulate Bond the most.
Mission Impossible 5 contains a lot of elements that feel a lot like a typical ))& story, like the eccentric villain, the villain's Henchmen (the guy in the rafters was the most Bond-ish), and of course the Bond girl whose wrapped up in everything. Not to mention that the character of Ethan Hunt becomes more and more superhuman with each passing film. He can pretty much do anything now, like another certain suave secret agent we all know.
But despite the franchises blending together and Mission Impossible getting away from the cloak and dagger elements that made Tom Cruise's first outing so great, this is still a solid summer action flick. One thing these MI movies know how to do is to construct exciting set pieces. Some are quite famous, like the white room break in and the Dubai tower scene. Here we get quite a few good ones as well, including an underwater facility sequence which does a great job making you feel like you are losing your breath along with Ethan.
Despite there being WAY too many car chases (I'm on the record as being bored by car chases), I was still held along through the basic spy plot, characters, and more interesting action scenes. This is a competent, well-constructed bit of fun at the movie theater. Its nothing more than that and doesn't reach for anything more, but it doesn't have to.
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Post by IanTheCool on Aug 9, 2015 10:24:51 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thought this felt more Bond-like than usual?
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Post by Jibbs on Aug 10, 2015 22:50:13 GMT -5
Speaking of which, did anyone else notice that Hunt passed a truck filled with explosive canisters in one of the chases? Having never exploded, it was a pretty funny joke.
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Post by IanTheCool on Aug 11, 2015 8:45:34 GMT -5
I did not notice that. Mind you, I zone out during car chases.
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Post by FShuttari on Aug 11, 2015 17:11:35 GMT -5
Reminded me of the scene from 21 Jump Street.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Aug 14, 2015 12:33:25 GMT -5
First of all, don't ask me how I'd rank Rogue Nation in comparison with the other M:I movies, because I'm frankly not entirely sure myself yet; I still say the third is my personal favorite so far, but I at least know Rogue Nation is in the top three somewhere. A considerable step up from Ghost Protocol (which I think is just O.K. overall), Rogue Nation is pretty much a blast from start to finish. It hits the ground running and never lets up. A lot of that is owed to Christopher McQuarrie, who directs the hell out of this thing, balancing the high-octane action we've come to expect from this franchise with quite a few Hitchcockian flourishes of suspense, such as an opera sequence early in the Second Act that's simply fantastic. The story itself is also fairly interesting and well-paced, but maybe dragged out just a bit too much. Tom Cruise is excellent once again as Ethan Hunt, and relatively unknown Rebecca Furguson is kick-ass as the film's female lead. Overall, Rogue Nation does not disappoint, and if the sixth installment is anything like this, then I can't wait.
The second best action film of the summer, behind Mad Max: Fury Road.
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 16, 2015 18:13:25 GMT -5
Yeah, this movie is a lot better than Ghost Protocol. Although I liked it better when the Syndicate was referred to as SPECTRE.
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Post by Dracula on Aug 16, 2015 18:21:45 GMT -5
Yeah, this movie is a lot better than Ghost Protocol. Although I liked it better when the Syndicate was referred to as SPECTRE. To be fair, I think The Syndicate actually was part of the 60s TV show... it was probably a ripoff of Spectre then too, but still.
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 16, 2015 18:24:40 GMT -5
If that were the case then that would be pretty cool.
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Post by PG Cooper on Aug 16, 2015 19:03:11 GMT -5
The mid 2000s were not the best times for Tom Cruise publically. Between his association with the Church of Scientology, his controversial statements, and infamously jumping on Oprah’s couch, Cruise became more associated with being a weird person than an actor. One of the first Cruise films to be caught in the crossfire would be Mission: Impossible III. The film was well-reviewed and did make a profit, but it was less successful at the box-office than both of its predecessors. However any concern that the franchise was on its way out was alleviated when the fourth entry, Ghost Protocol, opened in 2011 to high box-office and unanimous praise. Four years later and the series has returned yet again with Mission: Impossible: Rogue Nation, which has likewise opened to praise and financial success.
After an action-packed prelude, IMF (Impossible Mission Force) secret agent Ethan Hunt (Tom Cruise) finds himself attacked by a mysterious spy organization known as The Syndicate. He soon learns the group is made up of highly trained individuals who are using their skills to bring down governments and cause chaos. Naturally, Hunt must stop them, but this is complicated by the fact that the IMF has recently been disavowed by CIA director Alan Hunley (Alec Baldwin) and Hunt has been made a fugitive. He does however find allies in his fight; including Benji (Simon Pegg), Brandt (Jeremy Renner), and Luther (Ving Rhames). There’s also a mysterious femme fatale (Rebecca Ferguson) who is working with the Syndicate, but may or may not actually be an ally.
As the plot for Rogue Nation began to take shape, I could feel myself becoming disappointed. Yet again we have a story of Hunt and his allies being disavowed by their own organization and having to hunt down the villain on their own while clearing their name. That plot element has been used in literally every Mission: Impossible film except the second one. Rogue Nation is not above ripping off the second film though, as it borrows the “former secret agent turned villain” angle. These kind of storylines should be exceptions, not the formula for the series. The villain himself is incredibly generic and boring, with Sean Harris giving an uninspired performance. It doesn’t help that the character just seems stupid given how many times he trusts a character he clearly shouldn’t. In fact, the whole Syndicate is pretty flawed. The actual goals of the group are hazy at best, but the idea of a bunch of rogue agents setting their own missions and causing chaos struck me as very similar to Silva’s organization in Skyfall. In short, almost all of the story ideas seem stitched together from other works.
Getting past the plot, there is a lot to like about Rogue Nation. For starters, this is probably the most serious film since the original. There’s a darker edge to a lot of the violence on display and the performances seem more intense this time around. Whereas III felt a bit too overly clever and Ghost Protocol played more in the realm of cartoony fun, Rogue Nation takes itself more seriously. This also shows in the film’s depiction of spy craft, which features a lot more sneaking and espionage than we’ve seen since the first film, along with less emphasis on the gadgets. Don’t get me wrong, the series hasn’t suddenly become John le Carre, or even Robert Ludlum. At the end of the day, Rogue Nation is still a big budget blockbuster mostly concerned with spectacle, but it takes its world a little bit more seriously and I appreciated that.
The Mission: Impossible series has always been known for its set-pieces, and the fourth film brought that to a new level with the scale of the Dubai tower climbing scene. I don’t know if anything in Rogue Nation over tops this, but they sure do try. The film opens on the scene of Cruise hanging off the side of the plane, and there’s also a pretty riveting sequence where Cruise dives from several feet, later holding his breath for several minutes at a time. The smaller action sequences also work quite well. The highlight is an extended opera sequence which has some stalking, some fighting, and some shooting between multiple characters while the audience only has limited information. There’s also a pretty sweet car chase which transitions into an awesome bike chase. The film’s climax is pretty low-key by comparison, but it works pretty well.
The film is directed by Christopher McQuarrie and he does a pretty good job here. He certainly knows how to put together some great action scenes and I think he’s largely responsible for giving this film its teeth. That said, I was a little disappointed in some of his choices, namely his lack of effort to give the film a unique voice within the series. Part of what made the earlier entries in the series interesting is how they allowed each director express themselves. Brian De Palma, John Woo, and J.J. Abrams each made very different movies tonally, which was fun to see and helped hide how repetitive the scripts were. However it seems the studio liked what Abrams did with III a little too much and every subsequent film has basically just mimicked that aesthetic. This is unfortunate for two reasons. First, the insistence on maintaining one aesthetic is not nearly as interesting as shaking things up. Second, Abrams’ take on the material was easily the least stylistically exciting. If they were going to maintain one director’s style, I wish it had been De Palma’s.
Coming out of Rogue Nation, I really wanted to embrace the film more fully. The movie does commit more to a harder edge and I did enjoy the action quite a bit. It’s also a well-paced and very exciting film. But no matter how hard I try, I can’t look completely past the uninspired script, poor villain, and lack of stylistic innovation. As far as summer entertainment goes, this is one of the better options out there. It’s flashy, fun, and it will deliver the thrills its audience wants, just don’t expect the film to sit with you long after you leave the theater.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Sept 10, 2015 10:29:32 GMT -5
Finally got around to seeing this last night. I'll start by saying that the film has the typical polish and sleekness to it that you would expect from this type of production. With the exception of the paltry second installment, this series has always impressed me in not overindulging in silly extravaganza and exposition and for the genre remains relatively grounded when compared to others. Sure, Ethan Hunt jumps through windows without bleeding, falls off his motorcycle at a high rate of speed, and can hold his breath longer than Aquaman, but it's all so well staged and choreographed that if you're going to nitpick these elements anyways you've sat down with the wrong mentality in the first place. But the interactions between the characters remains on par with the action scenes as Cruise and Pegg again steal the show with their banter and quips. Cruise sometimes garners flack for overacting in his films, which I generally disagree with, but in this film and Ghost Protocol I was impressed with how grounded and authentic his performance feels. He's not spouting off lame one-liners or "leave this saving the world stuff to me and me alone" nonsense, and he's not acting like the coolest guy in the room in every scene even though he is. It's a nice change when so many protagonists in action films tend to fall back on the same archetypal tropes to see Cruise not be, well, that guy.
The action is staged very well as you'd expect, and even though I generally look forward to a chase sequence as much as I look forward to Tyler Perry's next film, they were very well done here and some of the motorcycle stunts were highly impressive. And yet while I can applaud the film for not going the route that many failed spy/action flicks do where they fill the running time with one bloated set piece and exotic location after another, I felt like this film in terms of plot just didn't have quite the "oomph" that Ghost Protocol and the original carried. Hell, I think the third entry felt like more was at stake as well, though maybe that was because it became personal for Ethan Hunt in his showdown with Phillip Seymour Hoffman. I look back on Ghost Protocol with the brilliantly staged sequences in the Kremlin and the large tower in Dubai, and of course the incredible moments in the original of the suspension over the lasers and all the red herrings and I realize that Rogue Nation really doesn't have many signature moments. All of the scenes are well done, the Vienna operahouse was fun even if it felt like we've seen this before, but the film for me never reaches the heights that it could've. Plus, the plot is tired and secondary, so that doesn't really help. But in the end it's a fun ride with the right amount of polish and expertise that we've come to expect since the franchise reestablished itself with the third entry, and Cruise is as good as ever even if the film never truly rises to the occasion that you'd hope for it to.
7/10
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Post by Neverending on Nov 26, 2015 17:32:39 GMT -5
It must kill the James Bond producers that the Mission: Impossible franchise is once again kicking their ass. And the fact they got the original Jack Ryan onboard and made the villain British must feel like an extra "fuck you." As a 20 year fan of both series, I enjoy this healthy competition. It keeps both camps motivated. In the case of Mission: Impossible , it is unfortunate that they've fallen victim to formula. That's not to say that Rogue Nation is identical to Ghost Protocol. It's not. One relied on humor and excitement. The other on suspense. But both do have the same aesthetic. The days of bringing in radically different directors to make radically different movies are long gone. But, at the end of the day, what matters is entertainment value and Rogue Nation delivers.
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Post by PG Cooper on Dec 1, 2015 21:54:32 GMT -5
It must kill the James Bond producers that the Mission: Impossible franchise is once again kicking their ass. And the fact they got the original Jack Ryan onboard and made the villain British must feel like an extra "fuck you." As a 20 year fan of both series, I enjoy this healthy competition. It keeps both camps motivated. In the case of Mission: Impossible , it is unfortunate that they've fallen victim to formula. That's not to say that Rogue Nation is identical to Ghost Protocol. It's not. One relied on humor and excitement. The other on suspense. But both do have the same aesthetic. The days of bringing in radically different directors to make radically different movies are long gone. But, at the end of the day, what matters is entertainment value and Rogue Nation delivers. If these films are gonna rip off an aesthetic, I wish they'd rip off De Palma.
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