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Post by Neverending on May 8, 2015 23:27:16 GMT -5
10 plus years??? The first Iron Man was released in 2008. It hasn't even been a decade yet. But I get what you mean. This is his 5th movie. He's part of the family.
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Post by Dracula on May 8, 2015 23:31:50 GMT -5
How exactly is Vision awesome? He seems like this odd looking dude with kind of generic ill-defined powers and a rather bland personality to me. His awkward introductions three quarters into the film mostly struck me as a weakness. Well for one Paul Bettany has been doing the voice of Jarvis for 10 plus years now. To able to see Paul Betanny become Vision is pretty freaking cool. Cuz Many people including me didn't think that would actually take fruition. Like Vision says "I was just born yesterday" so yeah I think the Marvel Cinematic movies continue to grow and expand we will also see a lot of these characters get more in depth character stuff... In Time... Maybe I'm one of the few that is okay with this concept... Meh, maybe someone with deeper comic book knowledge than me would get more out of it. The fact that the dude voicing Iron Man's computer and the dude under that wacky costume was the same person was only barely perceptible to me, it just seemed like an incredibly generic superhero who happened to be a robot to me. |
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Post by IanTheCool on May 9, 2015 9:13:23 GMT -5
My clear problem in this movie was Ultron was too soon a Villain for An Avengers sequel. I mean Avengers Civil War would make more since with Cap 3 being about Something else. Maybe where we get Cap and Stark coming back to the same page. Instead this movie was about making Iron Man Tony Stark the Fool Inventor of Ultron to make Civil War seem more likely since most Avengers dont seem to trust Iron Man now. I would rather Hank Pym made Ultron in Avengers 4. 3 Can be about Thanos but feel Avengers 2 would have been perfect for Civil War which could have finished up in Cap 3 The Next Super Soldier. Ok not very good tiles but hoping my point is Ultron should not fallow Loki. I thought Ultron was a great choice for the second film. Thanos is already taking up both avengers 3 and 4. |
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Post by FShuttari on May 9, 2015 9:54:08 GMT -5
Well for one Paul Bettany has been doing the voice of Jarvis for 10 plus years now. To able to see Paul Betanny become Vision is pretty freaking cool. Cuz Many people including me didn't think that would actually take fruition. Like Vision says "I was just born yesterday" so yeah I think the Marvel Cinematic movies continue to grow and expand we will also see a lot of these characters get more in depth character stuff... In Time... Maybe I'm one of the few that is okay with this concept... Meh, maybe someone with deeper comic book knowledge than me would get more out of it. The fact that the dude voicing Iron Man's computer and the dude under that wacky costume was the same person was only barely perceptible to me, it just seemed like an incredibly generic superhero who happened to be a robot to me. I do understand everyone's frustration, including myself Ultron never really got a chance to shine. They also spent the last half of the movie focused on creating Vision. I really do hope we get a directors cut that fleshes out Ultron, which has been announced so that's good news... in sorts, I guess. I will bet you the director's cut is a night and day difference, since we know Whedon couldn't get as much freedom with this movie. Marvel wanted this to be a setup to the future franchises. |
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Post by VaderStark14 on May 9, 2015 10:17:47 GMT -5
Personally my belief the only way they can do avengers without an iron man being RDJ is he dies somewhere after Avengers 4. I also think Technically Avengers 3 is two parts and yes they are 4 movies but Part 2 is not Avengers 4.
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Post by frankyt on May 9, 2015 10:47:07 GMT -5
Have we gotten an original Avengers directors cut? What makes people think one for ultron is coming? And why wouldn't Disney release it? Because of the universe Marvel is creating? They don't want confusion?
For this movie, I thought it was entertaining. Nothing special, and kind of the same formula. Interested in how they make these movies new and fresh in the future. Brolin's Thanos is seriously needed.
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Post by Dracula on May 9, 2015 10:50:42 GMT -5
Meh, maybe someone with deeper comic book knowledge than me would get more out of it. The fact that the dude voicing Iron Man's computer and the dude under that wacky costume was the same person was only barely perceptible to me, it just seemed like an incredibly generic superhero who happened to be a robot to me. I do understand everyone's frustration, including myself Ultron never really got a chance to shine. They also spent the last half of the movie focused on creating Vision. I really do hope we get a directors cut that fleshes out Ultron, which has been announced so that's good news... in sorts, I guess. I will bet you the director's cut is a night and day difference, since we know Whedon couldn't get as much freedom with this movie. Marvel wanted this to be a setup to the future franchises. Oh, I definately think there was some weirdness going on in the editing room. Half of the movie's problems could have been solved by just adding a little breathing room. Then again, like I said in my review, it's kind of hard to give a movie a pass for not having enough set-up time when there have been like ten previous movies and three TV series they could have used to lay the groundwork better. Also, even if there is a director's cut I kind of doubt I'll be bothering with it. I haven't felt the need to rewatch any of the Marvel movies, not even the ones I like. |
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Post by IanTheCool on May 9, 2015 12:25:53 GMT -5
Personally my belief the only way they can do avengers without an iron man being RDJ is he dies somewhere after Avengers 4. I also think Technically Avengers 3 is two parts and yes they are 4 movies but Part 2 is not Avengers 4. Yes it is. |
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Post by VaderStark14 on May 9, 2015 13:23:32 GMT -5
Infinity Is in two Parts 1 and 2 while yes they are two seperate movies. No one has called it Avengers 4 which would emply its the 4th avengers. Now yes Infinity May be in Faze 4 but i believe like Harry Potter 7 Its called Avengers Infinity War Part 1 and 2.
You are right its the 4th film but I think when people say a 4th avengers then mean the movie after Thanos is over and done.
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Post by Neverending on May 9, 2015 13:33:44 GMT -5
We haven't even gotten to Civil War and RedVader is already killing Robert Downey Jr.
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Post by IanTheCool on May 9, 2015 13:56:52 GMT -5
It will be the forth movie. So... it is avengers 4. Its the most basic of math.
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Post by Doomsday on May 10, 2015 11:09:13 GMT -5
There's a scene during the climax of Age of Ultron where almost every superhero is on screen with hundreds of robots fighting them. Almost every inch of the screen is covered in fire, punching and explosions. That's what this movie feels like. Age of Ultron is a movie meant to entertain the senses but is, as previously mentioned in other reviews, a convoluted mess that goes in five tangents too many without ever really exploring any one idea. That isn't to say that it's not a fun movie because there's a lot going for it on the action front which is why we all went to see it in the first place. Unfortunately since the story is so disjointed much of it feels forced. Also, if you're a fan of the Marvel film universe then maybe you're with me in thinking that it feels like we skipped a whole lot in between Marvel films. If I remember correctly (and I do, it's a figure of speech) at the end of Iron Man 3 Tony Stark destroyed his Iron Man suits and retires from the character. Now he's back here as if none of that ever happened. And the Black Widow/Banner romance is as forced as they come. If that had been explored a little bit beforehand that would be different however we're thrust into this movie as if years of non-existent flirting are finally coming to fruition. Again, this movie has a ton of gaps but I don't blame Joss Whedon. I blame the boardroom of people who in their roundtable meetings decided which characters to include in the movie and what to do with them. You can tell me anything you want about who got screenwriting credit for this and other Marvel films, I know that's how Marvel movies are written.
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Post by VaderStark14 on May 10, 2015 11:55:19 GMT -5
It will be the forth movie. So... it is avengers 4. Its the most basic of math. Yes but Marvel and Disney is still considering movies 3 and 4 a two part 3 rd Avengers. Marvel is not calling it the 4th movie because they likely have some plan for Avengers 4 and its not about Thanos. No i dont wanna kill RDJ or iron man but my feeling is its the only way you can and make a new iron man. |
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Post by Dracula on May 10, 2015 13:06:53 GMT -5
It will be the forth movie. So... it is avengers 4. Its the most basic of math. Yes but Marvel and Disney is still considering movies 3 and 4 a two part 3 rd Avengers. Marvel is not calling it the 4th movie because they likely have some plan for Avengers 4 and its not about Thanos. He knows |
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Post by VaderStark14 on May 10, 2015 13:17:38 GMT -5
It would be better if they called Avengers 3 Thanos The Mad Titan. Then Do Avengers 4 which is second part of infinity War and call it. Avengers 4 The Infinity Glove.
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Post by IanTheCool on May 10, 2015 14:06:46 GMT -5
I dont know why they didn't.
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Post by Doomsday on May 10, 2015 14:11:59 GMT -5
The Avengers: Infinity War: Thanos: The Mad Titan
Coming Summer 2017
Followed by
The Avengers: Infinity War: Power Glove
Coming Summer 2018
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Post by frankyt on May 10, 2015 16:36:52 GMT -5
If they do that story justice... there will be a lot of confused folks. I'm excited for it though.
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Post by daniel on May 10, 2015 21:05:42 GMT -5
I'm preaching to the choir here, but I had the same issues:
Hawkeye Farmhouse excursion? Detraction from the action.
Black Widow? Is she Banner's awkward love interest, or the Hulk's babysitter? Really pointless here, and I felt she kept the Hulk from truly getting unleashed and doing more damage when it was needed.
Ultron. There are so many scenarios an omnipotent AI with access to the internet could carry out and his master plan was .... give himself a cool new body and lift up an obscure Russian city and thrust it back into the Earth? He was sarcastic and didn't seem to pose much of a threat, just threw countless easily-defeated villains at the heroes left and right. There never seemed to be a struggle, he never seemed to really pose a threat or give me much in the way of suspense.
Scarlet Witch obviously manipulates minds - why didn't someone tell Thor "relax, you had a weird vision, we all did ... no need to fly off to a cave and see a random vision, dude."
The action scenes were good, and I liked Scarlet Witch a lot, but these movies are starting to feel like a grindfest with lame villains and just more and more scenes of tons of robots and the Avengers just doing the same actions over and over again.
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Post by Neverending on May 10, 2015 21:08:50 GMT -5
Oh, look. It's Daniel.
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Post by IanTheCool on May 10, 2015 21:28:08 GMT -5
The Thor cave made absolutely no sense.
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Post by FShuttari on May 11, 2015 0:41:13 GMT -5
So are we all in agreement. This movie is a mess?
Cuz I already got my pitchfork ready!!
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Post by SnoBorderZero on May 11, 2015 9:54:04 GMT -5
I wouldn't call it a mess, just a bloated picture that doesn't explore anything or utilize its villain correctly. A mess would be more like the third Pirates or Matrix movies, now those were messes.
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Post by VaderStark14 on May 11, 2015 11:02:14 GMT -5
If the movie took care of how well they introduced Vision like they did Ultron slow and steady and let the Maximoff twins and Hydra be your stage one focus. Ultrons creation and turn to madness happened too fast. The story is the mess. The actors did what they could with Whedons mess.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on May 11, 2015 11:55:59 GMT -5
Yeah, Ultron went evil right away, like too easily. It's like they didn't account whatsoever for the fact that he would turn on them instantly and that it would be a huge problem given all the power he has access to. It was just like yeah, he might be completely unstable, but what the hell let's give it a whirl!
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