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Post by FShuttari on Feb 14, 2015 0:38:56 GMT -5
KINGSMAN: THE SECRET SERVICE - Review Thread
What a great time at the movies! I freaking loved it...
I shit you not from start to finish is one of the funniest times I have had at the movies in a while. I'll give you a brief rundown of the plot. Colin Firth plays a Spy who see's potential in this kid to become one of them. Where that story goes, you won't see it coming.
I loved Colin Firth you actually believe, he is this classy gentleman. But you also believe he is a Spy who can basically kill everyone in a room if he wanted too. There's one scene in particular that truly stands out. You'll know it when you see it. It basically felt like a cartoon with people dying. This movie definitely deserves it's R rating. I'm still questioning if I liked the scene or not. But it's my only complaint of the film.
Samuel L Jackson is really having fun here, you can tell. He plays a bad guy with a Lisp. I don't really understand the reason for this, but for whatever reason it works!
Kingsman is a very self aware movie, it makes movie references and lets you know if this was a movie, this is how it will go down. And than it flips it on it's head. AWESOME!
The kid in this flick, I've never seen or heard of him. But I think after this film were going to be seeing a lot of him. Which is great because he definitely pulls off his character and what he needs to be.
The action and set pieces are top notch! The Gazzele chic reminds you of those classic Bond villains, with her sword like feet and all.
Just go see the movie. You won't regret it, it will either become a huge hit or a cult classic. It leaves an impression and by the way, I Can't wait to see what Matthew Vaughn comes up with next. Every movie he's made so far has been spectacular.
9.5/10
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Post by Deexan on Feb 14, 2015 0:44:48 GMT -5
Seems a tad high.
Also, I just found out that my friends went to the world premier a month ago. How could someone not tell me about that!
They're just not film fans, that's why.
So give me your tickets, c**ts!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 7:53:06 GMT -5
I don't think I could sit through something like this.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 15, 2015 14:24:28 GMT -5
It DIDN'T flop at the box office. What a relief.
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Post by VaderStark14 on Feb 15, 2015 15:11:22 GMT -5
Well it looked like Harry Potter meets James Bond. And also the director is good. I still say First Class was a better X-Men and think Vaughn could have given us a better days of the future past.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 15, 2015 19:26:48 GMT -5
I saw it this afternoon. I'll elaborate a bit later, but bottom line, I enjoyed it; Matthew Vaughn certainly knows how to make good action movies.
Oh, and Dracula and PG Cooper, pay attention, because Kingsman sports what has to be the year's first potential Golden Stake and PGMA nominee for Best Fight Scene -- the church sequence. Holy shit, that was awesome.
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Post by FShuttari on Feb 15, 2015 23:17:54 GMT -5
the church sequence. Holy shit, that was awesome.
I still don't know if I like that scene or not. So much carnage...
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Post by Fanible on Feb 16, 2015 5:22:15 GMT -5
I'm kind of with you on that, but it was amazingly choreographed.
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Post by IanTheCool on Feb 16, 2015 9:59:08 GMT -5
I liked the story but hated the style. That's the Coles Notes version of my review. The Kingsmen, a spy action movie about a London punk who is recruited into a spy organization, suffers from an identity crisis.
Its hard to tell who this movie was made for exactly. At the core, it is a goofy spy story that doesn't take itself very seriously, which was evident from the moment there was a car chase in reverse. I mean, there's a character who has swords for feet even. So this indicates that it was made for younger audiences. It has a familiar plot for those teenager adventures as films like Percy Jackson. But then the filmmakers counter that by loving to say "fuck" a lot and having really graphic violence. It doesn't mesh.
Its too bad, because there were elements that gave this the potential to be a fun and likable movie. I rather liked all of the training segments where these young 20-somethings are competing for a position in the organization. I also liked quite a few of the characters. Even the basic premise of the secret organization was well conceived, as was the villain's plot (sort of).
However, the movie is ruined by the director's need to inject a lot of unnecessary gore and other questionable material into the film. I mean, the action films which were shot in a frenetic style were showing gunshots, people getting impaled on spears, ll kinds of nasty stuff. They would have worked just fine without that and would have fit the tone of the movie far better. But instead they feel like they were made by some hyper 17-year old who plays too many video games. There's a scene set in a church which really goes overboard and had me hating the movie for a while. There's also a ridiculous scene which involves exploding heads, even the president's.
The sad thing is is that when the credits came up at the end and I saw that this was directed by Matthew Vaughn, everything made sense. He was the director of the despicable and tonally f'ed Kick Ass. And while this movie actually had some likable elements, its clear that the director couldn't resist standing in his own way. I usually don't care about ratings nor do I like it when decisions about a movie are made to fit certain rating parameters. However, this is one film I feel would have benefited from being PG-13. 5/10
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 16, 2015 14:45:43 GMT -5
the church sequence. Holy shit, that was awesome.
I still don't know if I like that scene or not. So much carnage... You know, the carnage actually didn't bother me that much. I saw the movie with a pretty packed audience who kept going "OHHH!" after the more brutal kills there, but this is from mostly the same team who brought us Kick-Ass, so I was expecting violence on that level. The impression I got was you were supposed to laugh at and be entertained by how over-the-top the scene was. I'm kind of with you on that, but it was amazingly choreographed. Yeah, that's mainly what I was getting at. The choreography and energy in that scene are fantastic, and Vaughn's decision to do that scene as a single tracking shot -- except for the times it cuts to Valentine's reactions -- added to it, not to mention the music choice.
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Post by Deexan on Feb 17, 2015 0:33:28 GMT -5
One of my friends worked on the VFX for this and said Vaughan was a bit of a ball breaker but he was ultimately proud with that they achieved.
Then just before post-production edits the entire company he worked for got made redundant.
Then they asked for a lot of the VFX team to work additional hours to finish this off. My friend said yeah okay I'll do it...for £1000 a day.
They declined, but I admire his audacity.
He works in Australia now for a VFX company.
That's the effect of tax breaks. As soon as the UK lost access to them it wasn't worth creating the FX here any more. They've all gone to work in Oz or Canada.
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Post by Deexan on Feb 17, 2015 0:37:20 GMT -5
I feel like it's a little bit wanky on the producers' part. My friend told me about the church scene and the scene where loads of shit is going down with thousands of people on the street with kind of a bird's eye view over a year ago.
He was expecting it to be something special.
And then they all got randomly laid off.
Like...wtf.
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Post by Knerys on Mar 5, 2015 11:47:27 GMT -5
This movie was was so. much. fun. Maybe post a review later.
Though that stinks about the vfx crew. Though it seems part for the course these days. :/
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Post by PG Cooper on Jun 21, 2015 19:59:19 GMT -5
It’s been interesting to watch Matthew Vaughn’s directorial career grow over the last few years. His debut film Layer Cake may have been a pretty obvious riff on the Tarantino crime film, but one of the better examples of the subgenre. I was less fond of his fantasy follow-up Stardust, but his subversive superhero film Kick Ass proved a lot of fun despite some major flaws. Vaughn’s best work, and breakthrough as a major talent is almost certainly X-Men: First Class, a film which harnessed Vaughn’s stylistic abilities and combined them with a mature and emotionally resonant story. I couldn’t wait to see what Vaughn would do next, and a spy film based on a Mark Millar comic seemed a promising project. However the trailers for Kingsman: The Secret Service struck me as incredibly dumb, and a massive step back for the director. The early release date also scared me off. However the film opened to very positive reviews and I found myself curious to eventually catch up with Kingsman at home.
Eggsy (Taron Egerton) is a young man from a low income family in London. He shows a lot of potential physically and mentally, but has fallen into a life of petty crime. After Eggsy is arrested, he finds himself saved by Harry Hart (Colin Firth), a well-dressed middle-aged man claiming to be a tailor. However Harry actually belongs to an organization known as the Kingsmen, a group of highly trained spies who operate above government and nationality. The group is looking for a replacement after one of their members has been killed, and Hart has put forth Eggsy as his candidate, in part due to guilt over Harry’s relationship with Eggsy’s father 17 years earlier. Simultaneously, internet billionaire Richmond Valentine (Samuel L. Jackson) has launched a secret plot which involves kidnapping famous and wealthy individuals, while Harry investigates.
Many have been quick to point out similarities with Kingsman and the James Bond series, of which the film itself even references. The sophisticated British spies and the villainous scheme are all reminiscent of the legendary spy series, but this film is very different in style, tone and personality. For one, Kingsman is rated R, with far more graphic violence and profane dialogue than you’ll ever see in a 007 adventure. The characters and humour is a lot broader, and generally the film’s style is pretty aggressive. Vaughn’s style is a welcome addition as it helps elevate what is some very familiar elements. The Bondian villainous scheme is fairly standard for example, but Sam Jackson’s animated villain is so modern and strangely comical that it keeps things fresh. Similarly, the training elements are comparable to movies like Men in Black, but the set-pieces constructed around these scenes are pretty cool. The duel narratives do run into the problem however in that they sort of undercut each other. So much time is devoted to the training that Kingsman doesn’t have a lot of time to become a spy story. On the flipside, the spy plot robs the nuance of the training, which is mostly relegated to montage.
The action scenes here are largely solid, but there not quite as good as I’d hoped. Vaughn is a bit coo concerned with making his action scenes as “cool” as possible and it comes off as desperate. The excessive slow motion, choppy editing, general over the top ness is largely unnecessary and only there to serve itself. The best action scenes are the ones that don’t feel the need to call much attention to themselves. Additionally, while I don’t have anything inherently against violent action films, this one really does push things. It’s not merely the levels of violence, but the attitudes that bothered me. The violence is horrific, but the film’s attitude toward it is not only casual, but downright encouraging. The film is too eager and gleeful in its depiction of violence, and it’s hard to defend as necessary.
I was on the fence for a large part of the film, but I was won over by a few elements. For starters, I think the cast here is really good. Veteran actors like Colin Firth, Mark Strong, and Michael Caine all fill their roles nicely, while Sam Jackson makes for a surprisingly fun villain. The guy is funny, but Jackson is also very menacing. I also really liked Taron Eggerton in the lead role, who is likable, and believable as a kid from a poor upbringing. The film also ends on a really awesome shootout through a compound that really delivered. The score is really good too. These elements, plus Vaughn’s energetic filmmaking make Kingsman a fun film. Is this a step back from X-Men: First Class? Absolutely. This is a shallow film with little on its mind beyond base entertainment, but it does succeed in that goal.
B-
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