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Post by Neverending on Jul 5, 2015 17:14:36 GMT -5
Have you ever been hunting? My family is from the Caribbean. We kill animals there too but not for "sport". There has to be more humane ways.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Jul 5, 2015 17:31:12 GMT -5
I have nothing against a small gun for protection. I just don't think we need big guns or military style guns. There should also be a limit on how many guns a person can own. As for hunting guns, there should be restrictions on that too. If you live in the middle of nowhere, it's fine. But if you live in the city or a small town and go hunting "for sport", that's a dick move and shouldn't be allowed. You have to be a psychopath to kill an animal "for fun" and that should automatically disqualify you from owning any weapons. You have no idea what the concept of "sport" hunting is. Yea you can go to the store if you live in town but people like to be self reliant. Those "sport" hunters eat what they kill. It isnt like they go around Rambo style just blowing the heads off of things and high fiving while drinking a Bud Light. You should spend time with real hunters. Quit talking politics and post the bloody results of the Movie Still Game! It's Sunday for God's sake!
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Post by RedStorm901 on Jul 5, 2015 17:32:37 GMT -5
Though you didn't answer my question I'm going to assume that's a yes you have been hunting before. Hunting for "sport" is the exact same as any other hunting. I've never been hunting with a group of people who just take 50 calibers and shoot the deer to blow their heads off, and make the animal suffer. It's never just killing to be killing, you take the kill and eat it. And I'm speaking from my experience and people around me, I'm sure there are people who are psychopaths that just want to kill but not any of the hunters I know around here. I see nothing wrong with hunting for sport, but I am a firm believer in eating what you kill.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 17:40:16 GMT -5
Neverending is going to lose this battle. He has no knowledge of what he speaks. Normally this isn't the case but this time he is so far off, in Vader territory almost.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 17:42:10 GMT -5
Quit talking politics and post the bloody results of the Movie Still Game! It's Sunday for God's sake! Sorry, got caught up in getting ready for the 4th and my wife got stung in the face by a wasp and whined all day instead of making me a sandwich. Scores will be up soon!
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Post by Wyldstaar on Jul 5, 2015 18:08:09 GMT -5
Quit talking politics and post the bloody results of the Movie Still Game! It's Sunday for God's sake! Sorry, got caught up in getting ready for the 4th and my wife got stung in the face by a wasp and whined all day instead of making me a sandwich. Scores will be up soon! Give your wife my regards. I got stung by one on the thumb last summer, and it was agony for hours. I can't imagine how bad it would be on the face.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 18:09:40 GMT -5
Sorry, got caught up in getting ready for the 4th and my wife got stung in the face by a wasp and whined all day instead of making me a sandwich. Scores will be up soon! Give your wife my regards. I got stung by one on the thumb last summer, and it was agony for hours. I can't imagine how bad it would be on the face. Probably didnt help that this was my reaction.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 5, 2015 18:19:35 GMT -5
I have mixed feelings about gun control. I could care less about hunting rifles being readily available (very very very few crimes are committed with them) but I see no need to allow assault rifles to be available at all and while I do see how some law biting citizens might have use for handguns I feel like the criteria for how they get handed out should be way stricter. When it comes to people walking around in public with weapons I get a lot less open minded. Put simply, I don't want to live in the wild west and the notion of people walking around with firearms just doesn't sit right with me, which is why I'm actually more open to concealed carry laws than open carry laws. I kind of don't care what logical arguments for these laws might exist, I just don't like them. Beyond that, I just don't see too much of a solution to America's gun problem. The fact that firearms are so readily available is detrimental to the country in many ways but the odds of it changing anytime soon are nil.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 18:32:51 GMT -5
I have mixed feelings about gun control. I could care less about hunting rifles being readily available (very very very few crimes are committed with them) but I see no need to allow assault rifles Assault Rifles are already banned. Assault Weapons are what you are referring to. They are no different than the hunting rifles that you are ok with, other than their appearance. In fact the caliber used in assault weapons are usually not as high as those used in hunting rifles. Assault weapon is a term created by the government very recently in order to categorize this style of rifle for the purpose of banning it, which is again less lethal than a majority of hunting rifles, all because they had no idea what they were talking about other than the rifle looked more scary to them. Assault Rifles = Fully Automatic = Machine Guns = Banned Assault Weapon = Semi Automatic = "Scary Looking" Hunting Rifle = Government wants to ban
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Post by Dracula on Jul 5, 2015 18:41:02 GMT -5
I have mixed feelings about gun control. I could care less about hunting rifles being readily available (very very very few crimes are committed with them) but I see no need to allow assault rifles Assault Rifles are already banned. Assault Weapons are what you are referring to. They are no different than the hunting rifles that you are ok with, other than their appearance. In fact the caliber used in assault weapons are usually not as high as those used in hunting rifles. Assault weapon is a term created by the government very recently in order to categorize this style of rifle for the purpose of banning it, which is again less lethal than a majority of hunting rifles, all because they had no idea what they were talking about other than the rifle looked more scary to them. Assault Rifles = Fully Automatic = Machine Guns = Banned Assault Weapon = Semi Automatic = "Scary Looking" Hunting Rifle = Government wants to ban When I said "hunting rifle" I was of strictly referring to bolt action rifles, not a semi-automatic ones.
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Post by Frizzo the Clown on Jul 5, 2015 18:41:46 GMT -5
I have known more than my fair share of hunters that hunted for the sake of killing something. Eating what they killed was only a by-product of that killed. Is that all hunters? Of course not. But you certainly can't say that it hunting is strictly about food production.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 18:49:46 GMT -5
I have known more than my fair share of hunters that hunted for the sake of killing something. Eating what they killed was only a by-product of that killed. Is that all hunters? Of course not. But you certainly can't say that it hunting is strictly about food production. For the greater majority it is. You can't stereotype a group unless you are fine stereotyping all groups. I am surrounded by hunters in this area and I don't know of a single one who hunts just to kill. Most are on a tight budget and this is a way to provide food for their family. My F-I-L always has a freezer full of meat and when it gets full, he gives us some for our freezer. It never goes to waste.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 18:51:21 GMT -5
When I said "hunting rifle" I was of strictly referring to bolt action rifles, not a semi-automatic ones. In the hands of the wrong people, either are deadly. JFK would agree.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 5, 2015 18:59:34 GMT -5
When I said "hunting rifle" I was of strictly referring to bolt action rifles, not a semi-automatic ones. In the hands of the wrong people, either are deadly. JFK would agree. Let's just say that if I'm ever in a crowded room and some nut comes in trying to shoot up the place I'd rather he have one than the other.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 19:06:06 GMT -5
Keep in mind the bolt actions are usually way more accurate and usually more powerful. Not as quick as a semi but they can do more damage if the person has training.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 5, 2015 19:19:15 GMT -5
Keep in mind the bolt actions are usually way more accurate and usually more powerful. Not as quick as a semi but they can do more damage if the person has training. Most mass killers don't have training and probably don't much care how powerful their guns are so long as they shoot out enough bullets at a crowd.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 19:23:47 GMT -5
True. I would be more nervous about someone with a large knife coming into a crowd with deadly intent. Crowd gets bottlenecked at an exit and the murderer has a field day back stabbing away at those stuck. The AR-15 would take people down quickly as well but they would have a better survival rate if the person was not trained and just grabbed a gun with the purpose of killing.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 5, 2015 21:41:03 GMT -5
Quit talking politics and post the bloody results of the Movie Still Game! It's Sunday for God's sake! This is the angriest thing anyone has posted in this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 21:57:23 GMT -5
Quit talking politics and post the bloody results of the Movie Still Game! It's Sunday for God's sake! This is the angriest thing anyone has posted in this thread. Probably even angrier when he saw the scores.
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Post by Deexan on Jul 9, 2015 19:05:21 GMT -5
This thread delivered.
"Obama has a white politician's brain" was arguably the high/low point, depending on how you look at it.
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Post by Ramplate on Jul 9, 2015 19:22:53 GMT -5
Have you ever been hunting? My family is from the Caribbean. We kill animals there too but not for "sport". There has to be more humane ways. Actually, hunting deer due to over population is very humane. Hunters will most likely use what they kill, and leaving the herd over populated to starve to death slowly is not a good thing. Concerning guns - I fail to really see the reason of most owners having a huge clip with a lot of rounds, or something that shoots very rapidly. 1) The only real reason to have a gun that spits out a lot of bullets in a short amount of time - is because it's fun for target shooting. or you're planning to be a spree killer. 2) there is no good reason why anyone not in the armed forces needs a shitload of bullets per cartridge. Stop being too lazy to reload. If you need that many rounds to kill a deer or a duck - give up hunting and take up crocheting Otherwise - have your guns - but be careful each and every time you get near one. The rest of us don't want to be your "Ooops!"
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Post by RedVader on Jul 10, 2015 11:36:29 GMT -5
Well there was a case here i believe in 1986 were my dad and the cops here investigated a case where a guy killed 8 deer and stacked them in the woods and left them there. They said it was quite disturbing for he just removed the deer balls and gutted the deers and left there guts too hang out.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 10, 2015 17:05:00 GMT -5
I'm leaving this here for Seakazoo . I'm NOT here to start a fight. I just want her perspective. https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3cswfp/in_one_season_of_the_dutch_version_of_survivor/
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Post by Seakazoo on Jul 12, 2015 9:46:09 GMT -5
I'm not surprised. Contrary to the ideas people are trying to jam down your throats, women and men ARE different. Men tend to act and base decisions on reason/thought while women tend to be more emotional creatures. Combine that with the possibility that these women came from a "traditional" family where the man does the hard work while the women gets stuck at home taking care of kids it's really not that surprising to find that the women were helpless and couldn't come together to get things done. I haven't watched the entire video, but I remember reading about this show before. Less than 40 seconds into the video the women are bossing that man around and sticking them with all the chores. I'm going to guess that the ladies wanted to treat the situation like a vacation while the men did all the work.
TL;DR - bitches
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Post by Dracula on Jul 12, 2015 10:21:24 GMT -5
I'm leaving this here for Seakazoo . I'm NOT here to start a fight. I just want her perspective. https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3cswfp/in_one_season_of_the_dutch_version_of_survivor/ There may be some food for thought there, but it's also worth remembering that this is a reality show and not a peer reviewed study with controlled variables. It's more than likely that the producers were looking for a very specific kind of female contestant (attractive drama queens who will stir up shit and entertain the viewers) an most of the capable and cooperative female contestants were likely not cast.
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