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Post by Neverending on Jul 12, 2015 10:29:32 GMT -5
I'm not surprised. Contrary to the ideas people are trying to jam down your throats, women and men ARE different. Men tend to act and base decisions on reason/thought while women tend to be more emotional creatures. Combine that with the possibility that these women came from a "traditional" family where the man does the hard work while the women gets stuck at home taking care of kids it's really not that surprising to find that the women were helpless and couldn't come together to get things done. I haven't watched the entire video, but I remember reading about this show before. Less than 40 seconds into the video the women are bossing that man around and sticking them with all the chores. I'm going to guess that the ladies wanted to treat the situation like a vacation while the men did all the work. TL;DR - bitches I was more fascinated by the first comment , where the guy is talking about his experience in the military. Girls are better in the beginning because, you know, girl power. And guys hate each other in the beginning because of the "dick measuring" contest. But once guys find common ground, they become great friends, while girls eventually hate each other.
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Post by Doomsday on Jul 12, 2015 15:29:25 GMT -5
So what does everyone think about illegal immigration now that it's front and center thanks to Donald Trump and the murdered woman in San Francisco? Do you think we should have a total open borders policy? Should we build a concrete titanium wall with moat to keep everyone out? Somewhere in between?
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Post by Dracula on Jul 12, 2015 16:00:43 GMT -5
I don't know, I think a lot of people seem to be against illegal immigration for a lot of suspect reasons. The "minutemen" strike me as plainly racist and so does Donald Trump and his bullshit. That having been said, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for illegals when they get caught and deported. They willfully broke the law when they came over illegally, which doesn't speak to well of them, and it seems a little disingenuous to cry fowl as soon as that decision comes back to bite them. It also strikes me as patently offensive that so many activists throw out this dogma that immigrants only do "jobs no American wants" when there are still so many unemployed blue-collar workers who probably would want to do those jobs (albeit maybe not at the slave wages that exploited illegal immigrants do the work at). TL;DR, it's complicated.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 18:10:47 GMT -5
I have no issue with a wall going up. I also have no issue with someone coming into the country legally and becoming a legal citizen.
Illegals should be deported immediately and our tax dollars should stop being wasted on their medical care, housing, and other expenses.
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Post by RedVader on Jul 12, 2015 23:12:57 GMT -5
Here is my stance on Immigration. Can we as America advertise globally as the nation that welcomes people too come and live and be free but at the same time build up walls to keep out the hardest working minority race which is the mexican. Its simple you declare a bill where 100 people can come from mexico you give them cards too allow them too get work if can get it and i keep noses clean then can get citizenship. I think if you advertise your allowing people who want to leave mexico a chance too be free you wont get boarder jumpers. Unless they a drug dealers then its clear you send Chuck Norris down there and ship people back who try to cross the boarder
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Post by Dracula on Jul 12, 2015 23:18:14 GMT -5
I have no issue with a wall going up. Complete waste of money, resources, and soft power. Most illegal immigrants come in with legal visas and then never leave. The people "swimming across the Rio Grande" are a highly visible minority of immigrants.
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Post by RedVader on Jul 12, 2015 23:57:46 GMT -5
Um you can monitor illegals if they go by passing through like they have visas. You ask for an blood sugar test and you do the test which say is test for infections but its a tracer chip and you like fallowing polar bears track these and if dont wanna leave you come and get them and send them back.
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Post by RedStorm901 on Jul 13, 2015 1:25:20 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that would be illegal.
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Post by Seakazoo on Jul 13, 2015 8:23:19 GMT -5
It's only illegal if a brown person tries to do it
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Post by Ramplate on Jul 13, 2015 8:40:51 GMT -5
Um you can monitor illegals if they go by passing through like they have visas. You ask for an blood sugar test and you do the test which say is test for infections but its a tracer chip and you like fallowing polar bears track these and if dont wanna leave you come and get them and send them back. Drawing blood won't inject a tracer into a person. It would have to be something like a tuberculous test where they inject a bubble of fluid just under the skin to see if you have a reaction in the next week or so. They do that if you're admitted into rehab but I don't think they could do it as people arrive in the states they'd have to be quarantined but they don't, and can't, do that any more since the closure of places like Ellis Island
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Post by RedVader on Jul 13, 2015 8:55:19 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that would be illegal. Its a cheaper way then putting up a big wall that they will get around you can bet money on it. I mean if we are gonna treat immigrants like they are below american people we might as well tag them. Its my same theory about when rapist or child molesters get free they should get tagged too. In todays tech you cannot tell me you cannot trick mexicans into getting something where they could get tagged. My program for a safe america would be this immigrants who want to piss on our constitution, and sell drugs too our kids and rapist and murders deserve no fair rights to how they are tracked and sent back or punished. Yeah Id make a very bad president likely on the ethic committee brackett.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2015 9:18:32 GMT -5
I have no issue with a wall going up. Complete waste of money, resources, and soft power. Most illegal immigrants come in with legal visas and then never leave. The people "swimming across the Rio Grande" are a highly visible minority of immigrants. I'd like to see numbers to back that up. You don't have busloads of legal immigrants coming in and staying. You do however have network after network of coyotes bringing illegals in by bus, truck, car, van, or anything else with wheels. Add those who try to do it on foot and I would bet dollars to doughnuts that the number of those coming in illegally are a hundred fold more than those getting visas before entering and just overstaying.
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Post by RedVader on Jul 13, 2015 10:30:44 GMT -5
I Wonder if the native americans wished they had thought of coming together formed a constitution and they thought of immigration. We just came and stole there land and killed them. I wonder how we could look at this topic and not realize that as a white america want control. Control of who are neighbors are too who are elected officals are. yes African Americans live here and things are better but lets not forget the British and Europe Countries desendents who still are controling this country. We are not gonna be able to do immigration, fix race issues and so on until the day comes when everyone is equal here and I dont think people are.
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Post by frankyt on Jul 13, 2015 16:37:25 GMT -5
Complete waste of money, resources, and soft power. Most illegal immigrants come in with legal visas and then never leave. The people "swimming across the Rio Grande" are a highly visible minority of immigrants. You don't have busloads of legal immigrants coming in and staying. You do however have network after network of coyotes bringing illegals in by bus, truck, car, van, or anything else with wheels. Add those who try to do it on foot and I would bet dollars to doughnuts that the number of those coming in illegally are a hundred fold more than those getting visas before entering and just overstaying. I'd like to see numbers to back that up. You ask for proof then throw in a whole lot of anecdotal evidence. Bravo.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 13, 2015 19:10:18 GMT -5
Complete waste of money, resources, and soft power. Most illegal immigrants come in with legal visas and then never leave. The people "swimming across the Rio Grande" are a highly visible minority of immigrants. I'd like to see numbers to back that up. You don't have busloads of legal immigrants coming in and staying. You do however have network after network of coyotes bringing illegals in by bus, truck, car, van, or anything else with wheels. Add those who try to do it on foot and I would bet dollars to doughnuts that the number of those coming in illegally are a hundred fold more than those getting visas before entering and just overstaying. www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887323916304578404960101110032
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Post by Jibbs on Jul 13, 2015 19:24:29 GMT -5
Welp, my governor is officially running for president.
Sorry.
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Post by Frizzo the Clown on Jul 14, 2015 9:55:44 GMT -5
Welp, my governor is officially running for president. Sorry. Be happy that mine isn't.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 10:43:30 GMT -5
I'd like to see numbers to back that up. You don't have busloads of legal immigrants coming in and staying. You do however have network after network of coyotes bringing illegals in by bus, truck, car, van, or anything else with wheels. Add those who try to do it on foot and I would bet dollars to doughnuts that the number of those coming in illegally are a hundred fold more than those getting visas before entering and just overstaying. www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887323916304578404960101110032The problem with that is that those numbers are not correct. Even the DOJ has admitted that the count of those who have crossed illegally is way underestimated. Those with legal visas who overstayed make up roughly 30% of the illegals based off a count that is nowhere near accurate. In reality the number is illegals on expired visas is more like 20% at best. Not a small number but still nowhere near those crossing on foot/vehicle. Took me a while to find all that info. The DOJ is not proud to admit they really have no idea how many illegals are here. They don't readily give that info to the news orgs.
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Post by Ramplate on Jul 14, 2015 14:22:03 GMT -5
Yeah that's wrong - she and others doing the same deals should be arrested. 'Laws are up to interpretation' - that's just bullshit,
I still believe you cannot tell a woman what she can, and cannot do, with her own biological functions
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Post by Dracula on Jul 14, 2015 18:36:11 GMT -5
The problem with that is that those numbers are not correct. Even the DOJ has admitted that the count of those who have crossed illegally is way underestimated. Those with legal visas who overstayed make up roughly 30% of the illegals based off a count that is nowhere near accurate. In reality the number is illegals on expired visas is more like 20% at best. Not a small number but still nowhere near those crossing on foot/vehicle. Took me a while to find all that info. The DOJ is not proud to admit they really have no idea how many illegals are here. They don't readily give that info to the news orgs. Source?
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