Politics Thread

I'm watching CNN's The Sixties on Netflix and they put a great spotlight on the 1964 election. 1960 and 1968 get all the attention cause of Kennedy and Nixon, but 1964 was the REAL game changer. People forget that conservative democrats and liberal republicans was a thing before the 60's. LBJ and Barry Goldwater are the ones that changed that - they are the architects of modern politics. And it also raises the question: aren't we overdue for another political revolution? This year's elections are a farce! Democrats and republicans have run their course. We need to either restructure both parties or take a 3rd party and turn it into one of the two-parties. People forget that George Washington had no party and that John Adams was a Federalist. Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson were the ones that put Democrats, two different versions of them, on the map. Then their were the Whigs - created specifically as a "fuck you" to Jackson. After the Whigs lost steam, Abraham Lincoln and the Republicans, a different version from today's Republicans, rose to power. So political parties CAN and HAVE changed. It's time to do it again. I hope Donald Trump destroy's the Republican party and that the Bernie Sanders movement forces the Democrats to change - or for a 3rd party to continue the fight and eventually replace the Democrats.

I just read that Stephen Hawking is baffled by the popularity of Donald Trump.

If the 10th smartest person in the world (160 IQ) is baffled by Trump, think that is a great indicator that he has no business being the most powerful leader of the free world.

Bernie Sanders is already being pressured to run as a 3rd party candidate if he doesn't get the nomination. I kinda hope it happens. If there was ever a year to destroy the democratic & republican parties, it's now.

Doomsday and SnoBorderZero , don't fuck up today.

I hate the fact that they're already counting the forecasted superdelegates votes for Clinton and saying she has the OK, "presumptive", nomination

Changes could happen. I already emailed my senator to tell him he shouldn't have promised his votes for anyone before he's seen the will of the people who vote him to represent us.

Sanders should have dropped out something like a month ago. We're dangerously close to letting a national disgrace become the president, now is not the time for the opposition party to be damaging itself with infighting. Clinton has had a legitimate claim to being the presumptive nominee for a very long time and I don't know what Sanders hopes to accomplish by dragging this out.

I blame social media.  I'm sure there are exceptions but a lot of these Sanders voters live in such a social media bubble that they forget that there are kind of a lot of Republicans out there and that winning the election in November is not a sure thing.  Also I think a lot of them are on the younger side and don't really remember how awful the Bush years were and how much damage could have been avoided if 100,000 Ralph Nadar voters in Florida hadn't stubbornly "voted their conscience." 

When California didn't vote for Sanders




Bernie Sanders running 3rd party would be sweet, but he would need the media coverage and a spot on the debates.

I didn't catch who it was, but just heard a Republican say, Prejudice and bigotry have no place in the party of Lincoln.

Well, that's effectively what their plans accomplish in one way or another. Their policies are made to promote the rich, Christian, white (for the most part), straight and male.  tRUMP just says it out loud lol.

They don't like to admit that it isn't like the party Lincoln joined anymore.

It was Paul Ryan, and yes it's hilarious that they're still trying to play the Lincoln card given what they've become. Talk about "what have you done for me lately."






You know Ross Perot accomplished nothing except to give Bill Clinton the win, right?

The Perot campaign's biggest problem was that Perot made the colossal mistake of withdrawing from his campaign, and then changing his mind and going back in.  It destroyed his momentum and made him look like a flake.  His campaign never recovered from that blunder.  If he hadn't done that, he might have had a slim chance.