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Post by FShuttari on Nov 12, 2016 15:16:37 GMT -5
I would say his supporters didn't care about his criticism.
Nothing we did or say effected him. With Trumps own words "I could kill someone right now, and I would not lose any supporters"
This is for the record books, America became so angry that they actually believed Trumps every word and basically that media was lying.
What do we do something like this? How do we even move on? How do convince a whole delusional group of people, half of America that these conspiracies aren't true.
Remember how whikileaks came out and said, the System will not let Trump win.
Dead silence now, all the crazies aren't even admitting they were dead wrong.
Drain the swamp? Wrong all the big time conservative people are taking power, no drainage, just more clog building up.
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Post by Deexan on Nov 13, 2016 6:54:42 GMT -5
My thoughts are with you all at this difficult time.
Especially Ian, who may soon have to share his country with some of you.
To make the next 4 (probably 8) years fly by, I suggest watching the following clip on repeat. Continuously. During every waking second.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 13, 2016 9:01:12 GMT -5
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Post by thebtskink on Nov 13, 2016 9:38:29 GMT -5
I'm not watching any of those until someone other than Neverending independently confirms they are funny.
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Post by Dracula on Nov 13, 2016 10:21:50 GMT -5
I'm not watching any of those until someone other than Neverending independently confirms they are funny. The monologue is alright, the second one isn't really trying to be funny, the third one is funny in theory but just way to painful.
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Post by thebtskink on Nov 13, 2016 10:53:13 GMT -5
You're doing yeoman's work, Drac.
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Post by RedVader on Nov 13, 2016 12:06:56 GMT -5
I just dont know how a person like Trump can win but John McCain a POW cant win. I get Obama was running but really Obama should have come close but won on the retry cause I always felt Obama at that time was not wise enough too handle the job as president.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 13, 2016 13:04:27 GMT -5
I'm not watching any of those until someone other than Neverending independently confirms they are funny.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 13, 2016 19:49:04 GMT -5
Donald Trump chose Reince Priebus as his Chief of Staff. At the moment, he's the Chairman of the Republican National Committee. He's also the mastermind behind Paul Ryan and Scott Walker. As I said before, whoever voted for Donald Trump because he's "anti-establishment" is a fucking idiot.
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 13, 2016 20:19:20 GMT -5
I just dont know how a person like Trump can win but John McCain a POW cant win. I get Obama was running but really Obama should have come close but won on the retry cause I always felt Obama at that time was not wise enough too handle the job as president. And you were wrong.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 13, 2016 20:23:01 GMT -5
I just dont know how a person like Trump can win but John McCain a POW cant win. I get Obama was running but really Obama should have come close but won on the retry cause I always felt Obama at that time was not wise enough too handle the job as president. And you were wrong. Has he ever been right?
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Post by thebtskink on Nov 13, 2016 23:04:33 GMT -5
I too believe that Betty White is an alien.
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Post by Ramplate on Nov 14, 2016 0:33:59 GMT -5
Donald Trump chose Reince Priebus as his Chief of Staff. At the moment, he's the Chairman of the Republican National Committee. He's also the mastermind behind Paul Ryan and Scott Walker. As I said before, whoever voted for Donald Trump because he's "anti-establishment" is a fucking idiot. Yeah, its funny how many of the promises he made to get elected he's already backed off or broken "I'm going to drain the swamp", and he's so far got a transition team that is full of Republican insiders, not to mention his children...there are anti-nepotism laws he's closely flaunting. He can't appoint any of them to his cabinet, and if he does they will have to divest themselves of the family business. Cabinet members can't have any holdings that in their positions they may have influence over. "Lock her up" now he is not going to prosecute Hillary. "Mexico will pay for the wall" now we will pay for it and wait for Mexico to reimburse us. "Ban all Muslims" well only temporarily from a few countries that have terrorist problems. "Repeal Obamacare". Keep Obamacare and fix it up a little bit
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Post by Ramplate on Nov 14, 2016 1:23:11 GMT -5
Who the hell types out the captions for those videos? They should be fired.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 14, 2016 7:37:32 GMT -5
Trump went on 60 Minutes last night and said he wanted to get rid of Roe vs Wade. He said abortion should be a States decision. That means if abortion is illegal in a State, women would have to go to another State to get an abortion. Basically, abortion will only be available to those who can afford it. When that was pointed out to him, he nonchalantly replied, "we'll see what happens."
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Post by Dracula on Nov 14, 2016 8:00:03 GMT -5
Who the hell types out the captions for those videos? They should be fired. They're usually auto-generated by speech recognition.
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Post by Seakazoo on Nov 14, 2016 10:38:23 GMT -5
Trump went on 60 Minutes last night and said he wanted to get rid of Roe vs Wade. He said abortion should be a States decision. That means if abortion is illegal in a State, women would have to go to another State to get an abortion. Basically, abortion will only be available to those who can afford it. When that was pointed out to him, he nonchalantly replied, "we'll see what happens." I've never been so relieved to be sterile. I don't have much to add to the discussion here, but lately I can't stop thinking about Paula Deen. Years ago she admitted that she "used the 'n word'" before and that was the last we heard of her. There was enough outrage to have her show cancelled and stores no longer wanted to carry her cookware. I kind of wish that we held our politicians to the same rigorous standard that we hold our Food Network chefs.
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Post by RedStorm901 on Nov 14, 2016 12:36:50 GMT -5
I don't have much to add to the discussion here, but lately I can't stop thinking about Paula Deen. Years ago she admitted that she "used the 'n word'" before and that was the last we heard of her. There was enough outrage to have her show cancelled and stores no longer wanted to carry her cookware. I kind of wish that we held our politicians to the same rigorous standard that we hold our Food Network chefs. Then the people truly would rule, there wouldn't be any politicians left.
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Post by Ramplate on Nov 14, 2016 14:05:28 GMT -5
Paula Deen is back on the air on the HSN selling stuff, and. Think I may have seen one cooking show,but I can't be sure
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Post by Wyldstaar on Nov 14, 2016 21:16:51 GMT -5
I just dont know how a person like Trump can win but John McCain a POW cant win. I get Obama was running but really Obama should have come close but won on the retry cause I always felt Obama at that time was not wise enough too handle the job as president. John McCain chose a brain dead idiot as his running mate. If almost anyone else had been selected as his VP, McCain would have had a decent shot. As it was, people were afraid the old guy would die and leave us saddled with someone who makes Trump seem coherent. The eight years of GW that preceded the election didn't do him any favors, either.
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Post by FShuttari on Nov 14, 2016 23:58:35 GMT -5
The fact that Russia was somehow involved in the democratic process of election in US hasn't been properly understood or debated. Make no mistake about it, Russia had a great influence in electing Trump as president, but not in a way understood by people that think massive conspiracies are real. Before explaining myself, let me paint the bigger picture. I'm going to use an argument from personal experience, and I know that's not ideal, but bear with me. I'm from a country that's really close to the Russian border, and we were under their influence until 25 years ago. We, as a nation, understand how they think and what they are doing. First of all, whatever Russia is telling the world, you need to assume that it's a lie. The lie about everything, even when they are caught lying. They always have a hidden agenda, no matter what they are doing publicly. Russia has an economy in shambles and it's struggling to keep up with the West. They had a moderate economic growth when the oil was $120 , and now it's around $50. They are printing money like crazy, but they answer to no one. They can't be strong on their own, so their policy is to make everyone weak and to control other countries as much as possible. No matter the method, this is their goal, control. Europe is closest so they have started with us and they have been at it for the past decade. Here is how Russia works and then tell me that they had nothing to do with Trump getting elected. They started a conflict in southern Ukraine by using an internal conflict that's been brewing in Crimea for many years. Using that excuse they occupied Crimea and they have done their best to make sure that Ukraine is almost torn apart. They couldn't do anything militarily in Europe, so they went about another way. They find weak spots, like an internal conflict between minorities or they,exacerbate xenophobia, for example. They managed to get Ludovic Orban, a pro-Russian elected in Hungary. He's been a constant voice of division in the European Union and opposed economic sanctions against Russia. The right-wing Lepen's party in France received money from Russia (a fact), and they are trying to get France to exit the EU, and they always talk about it. They managed to get Brittain our of EU, changing the government in the process. The fueled the immigrant fears (sounds familiar?), the fact that Great Brittain is taking orders from EU (which is not true), and so on. The Russians are funding extremist parties in the EU, including UKIP, which is responsible for Brexit. Even your CIA knows this. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/12103602/America-to-investigate-Russian-meddling-in-EU.htmlBulgaria, a member of the EU, just elected a pro-Russian president, a former general. Moldova, not a member, but trying to get into EU, just elected a pro-Russian president who said that wants to have nothing to do with EU. Russian propaganda is trying to do similar things in Germany, with fake reports of immigrants raping children. It's gotten so bad that EU has set up a Task Force (StratCom East) to counter Russian disinformation campaigns, which publishes regular reports on the issue. The Russian agenda is clear. Give power to right-wing, exacerbate the xenophobic feelings that already exists, and watch everything fall apart. Here enters the US. You think that you have a democratic process and that's true for the mot part. Russian can't interfere with the elections, but they can influence the online and the narrative. Keep in mind that no matter what Trump did, the most important subject was the Clinton emails. The Donald subredit is a fetid pool of hate, but they are also highly organized, which doesn't happen naturally. I would bet good money that many of the users there that "sorted" emails, brought subjects to attention, or just manufactured stories, are just Russians influencing the online channels. Let's take an example from Youtube live. I was watching the Clinton speech after she lost on ABC News (Youtube live channel) and there were thousands of messages with Clinton for jail, or pro trump, done with smiles and images. I opened about 50 of the profiles that were posting and none of them had any content, and they were created about 6-7 months ago. Russia did the best it could to influence the elections. They hacked the email, they provided Wikileaks with the data, they were fervently online, the instilled hate, they called for the arrest of Clinton, and so on. Keep in mind that it can be done with ease by a hundred people from FSB (former KGB), and trust me, they have the manpower and the knowledge. The truth is that Russians only exacerbated the racism and hate that was already there, but this is how they work. In fact, now the so-called Trump supporters in the subreddit the_donald want to help LePen win in France. Also, the Trump campaign manager wants to help as well. It's that's not suspicious, I don't know what is. On a side note, the first to congratulate Trump were Russia, UK, Hungary, Turkey. The last one is almost a dictatorship. Don't think that if the election is over they are stopping now. They found a wedge, and they are going to push it as far as possible. The worse is still to come for the United States. https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/5cvhzf/fake_news_on_social_media_influenced_us_election/
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Post by RedVader on Nov 15, 2016 2:45:32 GMT -5
Tell me what did Obama Exactly do in 8 years as President. I just dont see how he has improved america in 8 years as president. Im not saying anyone else could done better. All fazes of government has done nothing but what Approve what a medical policy that doesnt really help anyone and a couple government shutdowns. If Obama was successful and did well Hilary would have beaten Trump Easily. If Anything Obama seemed too Hurt Hilary some what.
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