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Post by Ramplate on Mar 27, 2019 8:17:29 GMT -5
Trump is prepared to let the ruling of one judge stand - I forget where it was, but a judge ruled that since (I believe it was) the mandatory enroilment clause was eiminated, then the whole law is unconstitutional.
The Republicans have always wanted "repeal and replace" but after so many years and over 100 attempts - this seems to be the only way they're going to do it, but they still have nothing to replace it with. The Democrats have a bill that will make some fixes to the ACA and hopefully make it less expensive and cover everyone - including those with preexisting conditions,
If Trump and cronies are successful and just repeal - that will throw tens of millions of Americans off insurance plans, and possibly make 100,000,000 Americans with preexisting conditions have to go without insurance.
It could also effect people on Medicaid in an adverse manner
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Post by Ramplate on Apr 1, 2019 9:10:51 GMT -5
More kneejerk reactions from Trump - threatening to close the southern border. Yeah stop all trucking business, all legitimate jobs that people lawfully go to - it won't stop drugs, it is such a lucrative business they will find other routes (Tunnels, etc) and it will force people to the mountains, desert, and other places to cross that are not a big problem right now. All to the tune of BILLIONS of lost revenue.
His prized 3.0 GDP (really 2.9) will continue to go into the toilet faster than just the tariff results.
He also wants to stop sending aid to three Central American countries where most of the refugees seeking asylum are coming from. Well, if things are already that bad in those countries, that would make them leave faster for America.
BRILLIANT!
Well, with the oncoming recession and the bulk of the downturn of tax refunds (I heard someone say that some breaks are ending soon), and lost jobs due to Trump's border war and tariff war - I wonder how many of his fans are going to start seeing what he's actually doing to them?
Oh, and how about those "New NAZI Brownshirts"? More abuses are coming to light about children in cages, lack of sufficient healthcare for them, AND mistreatment and intimidation. I saw a video where they stopped a car because they heard there were two illegals in it. The American driver who was escorting them from a traffic court appearance refused to open the car doors. The ICE officers held up papers and told them they had a warrant to arrest the illegals, and the driver said, "You don't have a warrant, that's an order to arrest illegals, you need a warrant signed by a judge to get into this vehicle." He had training for protecting illegals rights because the ICE officers intimidate the people who they arrest and they go with them when they legally don't have to go.
In another story, up here in Burlington Vt Secret Service happened to be on a 16-year-old black kid's street for another matter (no one knows what that reason was) and they saw this kid come out of his house and go to his friend's vehicle to go out somewhere (the kid's story), and the Agents got out of the car and threw him up against the car and started searching him. The kid called the police because (according to him) they had no reason to do that.
Now there's the Secret Service's version - they were in their vehicle and they spotted this person "acting suspiciously". They had said two different things - one version has the kid saying or doing something as he was approaching his friend's car - but there's also something said about the kid approaching their car and badgering them or being otherwise disruptive.
The kid made the claim about it being about race, white Secret Service man stopping a black person just because he's black. The cop who arrived told the kid don't make this about race, it's not about race (while the chief of police up here [from NYC] has made racist statements in the past, and the department is getting a reputation of racial profiling).
The kid, on the other hand, is an honor student and does volunteer things - hardly sounds like a "suspicious" character. The end result, no arrest. The kid was so shaken he went on Facebook to tell everyone what he went through (and yesterday all of his social accounts disappeared..)
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Post by frankyt on Apr 5, 2019 10:40:00 GMT -5
Wonder where ewok is at these days... Mormons are now embracing gay people... I know he can't be happy about that.
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Post by Neverending on Apr 25, 2019 8:58:09 GMT -5
Donny "Grab Em By The Pussy" Trump vs Joey "Smell Their Hair" Biden
2020, baby
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Post by thebtskink on Apr 25, 2019 9:24:29 GMT -5
I hope he wins.
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Post by Neverending on Apr 25, 2019 10:41:00 GMT -5
Elizabeth Warren 4 da win
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Post by Doomsday on Apr 25, 2019 11:52:16 GMT -5
Joe is 4 years late to the game. Had he run in 2016 the odds are pretty damn good that we'd have a President Biden right now. Instead he sat out, Democrats ran the one candidate that half the country absolutely hated right off the bat and now we're stuck with Trump. The sad part is now that the battle plan for the Democrats has been to march as far left as they possibly can there might not be room for Joe. He's not radical enough, he's not intersectional enough (just wait until the 'straight white male' guns come out), and he's old. In reality he's probably the only one in the pack who could beat Trump but the Democrats will probably kick him to the curb. As of April 2019 considering who's running the odds are pretty excellent that we're getting a second Trump term.
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Post by Dracula on Apr 25, 2019 12:11:27 GMT -5
Joe is 4 years late to the game. Had he run in 2016 the odds are pretty damn good that we'd have a President Biden right now. Instead he sat out, Democrats ran the one candidate that half the country absolutely hated right off the bat and now we're stuck with Trump. The sad part is now that the battle plan for the Democrats has been to march as far left as they possibly can there might not be room for Joe. He's not radical enough, he's not intersectional enough (just wait until the 'straight white male' guns come out), and he's old. In reality he's probably the only one in the pack who could beat Trump but the Democrats will probably kick him to the curb. As of April 2019 considering who's running the odds are pretty excellent that we're getting a second Trump term. Half the country did not hate Hilary right off the bat. Her polling was through the roof through most of the Obama administration. In 2012 she was at 65% favorability among all Americans and was at about 49% in 2015 (which is better than it sound in these times of polarization). At the same time Biden was sitting at 39% favorable and 48% unfavorable and hadn't been above 50% since 2010. Also remember that at this point Biden had just lost his son and probably wasn't in the best emotional place to be running for president.
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Post by Doomsday on Apr 25, 2019 12:40:30 GMT -5
Hillary is without a doubt one of the most polarizing political figures in recent memory. Democrats knew that as soon as they nominated her and the only Republicans that voted for her did so because of their disdain for Trump, not because they loved Hillary. She didn't lose the election because Trump was a great candidate, after all hardly a day goes by where we aren't reminded that she won the popular vote. She lost because people didn't turn out to vote for her where she needed it most. That's why Trump was able to win districts and states with less votes than Romney and McCain received and they lost those same districts and states. Any way you cut it the overall enthusiasm just wasn't there.
But people can dissect the 2016 election until the cows come home. In 2020 Democrats need someone who can siphon those middle of the road voters and some Republicans too which Obama was great at. Right now Biden seems to be the only one in the field who might be able to do that. Or roll the dice with Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris and see where that gets you.
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Post by Dracula on Apr 25, 2019 13:02:56 GMT -5
Hillary is without a doubt one of the most polarizing political figures in recent memory. Democrats knew that as soon as they nominated her and the only Republicans that voted for her did so because of their disdain for Trump, not because they loved Hillary. She didn't lose the election because Trump was a great candidate, after all hardly a day goes by where we aren't reminded that she won the popular vote. She lost because people didn't turn out to vote for her where she needed it most. That's why Trump was able to win districts and states with less votes than Romney and McCain received and they lost those same districts and states. Any way you cut it the overall enthusiasm just wasn't there. But people can dissect the 2016 election until the cows come home. In 2020 Democrats need someone who can siphon those middle of the road voters and some Republicans too which Obama was great at. Right now Biden seems to be the only one in the field who might be able to do that. Or roll the dice with Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris and see where that gets you. 2016 was, if anything, proof that those middle of the road voters couldn't be counted on. The specifically nominated a moderate like Hillary in order to reach them and it didn't work. It makes more sense to nominate someone who really viscerally excites the base while not being completely alienating to moderates. That's what Obama was but isn't what Biden is. Sanders isn't that either and neither is Warren but Harris could hit that sweet spot (but she has some work to do) and Buttigiege and O'Rourke seem to be gaining similar followings despite having kind of weak resumes.
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Post by thebtskink on Apr 25, 2019 13:11:54 GMT -5
My biggest fear here is the purity test and stay-home voter.
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Post by Ramplate on Apr 26, 2019 10:41:01 GMT -5
Clinton was popular because everyone thought she finally had strong experience and would be the first woman president. However, there were two bad marks in her career. Benghazi and the appearance of Clinton Foundation donations in bad timing with the Uranium One deal. Top that with her abrupt health care resignation from office, and you come out with "Damaged Goods". People didn't think she had it in her to serve as president and had a perception of misdealings (of she, and her husband). Wingnut conspiracy theorists had a whole slew of other reasons to hate Hillary.
Joe Biden has the longest political history of anyone running so that means there are a lot of things people are going to pick apart as reasons not to vote for him. His statements and decisions from his past record are from different eras, different times with regards to popular thought and expression, and some of that isn't good in light of today's world. We just have to wait and see how he handles himself and if his new message is strong enough for 2020.
Warren I think has shrugged off the Pocahontas name finally, and we don't hear much of that anymore. She is right now the only candidate who is talking in detail about her plans for the future of our country. I think she's a very smart woman, but I'm not sure she would win - she would be a good pick for a running mate, however.
Kamala Harris has a very good California record, very strong. She gets things done, and has done some good things for California - and everyone likes her there. I'm not seeing the polls go her way right now, but there is still a lot of time left to further establish herself as a viable candidate - also a very good pick for VP.
Beto O'Rourke is a very likable guy, and he speaks well in an overall general sense, he's a good "cheerleader" but right now I still haven't heard much in the way of solid ideas. We need to get into details with him - right now I think he is still listening to voters and taking notes so his policies will touch upon their concerns.
Pete Buttigieg I really like him. He's very worldly. A Rhodes Scholar. He knows 7 languages. He's probably the highest I.Q. in the field. He talks well to people, he has not made a mistake in any public appearances I have seen or heard of yet (and I'm glued to political reports all day). The only problem I see is the Evangelical Voting group - he's not going to get some of their votes or endorsements. But, mayor Pete handles himself very well when confronted with anti-gay hecklers at his rallies. It didn't rattle him or phase him in the slightest - he made a comment about everyone having a voice, and went on with his rally. Billy Ghram's son has already been attacking him for being gay, but look who he and the evangelicals have been supporting - Trump a man who has broken at least three of the 10 Commandments several times over. So, even though he is probably one of the best to win the election, he may not get the voting blocks he needs. He will get a lot of votes though, and would be a good pick for VP.
Sanders is the current popular donation, money maker. He has a strong following from last time, and without the Hillary machine and her inside hit squad in the DNC, he may have a chance at the nod this time. Yes, he is very left of center, but the Democratic party has also moved to the left somewhat. The voters might back a more main stream candidate but quite a few of his programs are popular with voters. At the least, Bernie would make a good VP pick.
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Post by Ramplate on Apr 29, 2019 7:53:03 GMT -5
Tried to post a video of DeNiro laying into trump from an Occupy Democrats video - didn't work
Biden has the Firefighter endorsement
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