Politics Thread

Put Rudy in the retirement home and Lindsay in the unemployment line.

Wyldstaar

Fox News ratings down 40% as Trump extremists flee to OAN and Newsmax

www.dailywire.com/news/fox-news-ratings-tank-after-election-night-down-nearly-40

Fox news is still number 1. This is overblown.

Of course they're gonna stop watching after the election. Sure some might run to the hills of those fringe networks I dont think it's as significant as trump wants you to believe.

www.rawstory.com/2020/11/missouri-health-care-worker-tells-shocking-tales-of-positive-people-lying-about-while-shopping-at-walmart/

Missouri health care worker tells shocking tales of COVID-positive people ‘lying’ about quarantine while shopping at Walmart

“We hired 10 contact tracers to track the spread, starting in August, but the real problem we keep running into is community cooperation. We call everyone that’s had a positive test and say, ‘Hey, this is your local health department. We’re trying to interrupt disease transmission, and we’d love your help.’ It’s nothing new,” Amber Elliott, health director in St. Francois County, wrote in an op-ed for The Washington Post.

“We do the same thing for measles, mumps, and tick-borne diseases, and I’d say 99 percent of the time before COVID, people were receptive. They wanted to stop an outbreak, but now it’s all politicized.”

Elliott added, “Every time you get on the phone, you’re hoping you don’t get cussed at. Probably half of the people we call are skeptical or combative. They refuse to talk. They deny their own positive test results. They hang up. They say they’re going to hire a lawyer. They give you fake people they’ve spent time with and fake numbers. They lie and tell you they’re quarantining alone at home, but then in the background you can hear the beeping of a scanner at Walmart.”

Elliott observed, “I’ve stayed up a lot of nights trying to understand where this whole disconnect comes from. I love living in this county. I know in my heart these are good people, but it’s like we’re living on different planets.

I have people in my own family who believe COVID is a conspiracy and our doctors are getting paid off. I’ve done press conferences and dozens of Facebook Live videos to talk about the real science.

Even with all the other failures happening, that’s the one thing we should be celebrating: better treatments, nurses and doctors on the front lines, promising news about vaccines. But the more I talk about the facts, the more it seems to put a target on my back.”

The statistics are “scary bad,” Elliott shared. “I go off of facts and evidence-based science, and right now, all the data in Missouri is scary bad. We only have about 70,000 people in St. Francois County, but we’ve had more than 900 new cases in the last few weeks. Our positivity rate is 25 percent and rising.

Sure, because if there's one thing that a Big Pharma hates, it's a President who gives billions of dollars in tax cuts to them.  

Trump says PG Cooper and IanTheCool can have Michigan, he doesn't want it.

Now he's slightly closer to victory.

They filed a new suit and misspelled the governor's name

lawandcrime.com/2020-election/trump-campaign-lawyers-file-new-pennsylvania-motion-which-misspells-governors-name/

Oh man, do I ever love reading letters from pissed off judges. Everyone should do it.

This is my hope and cry as well, but it won't happen because it demands people take responsibility for their part in it, and, well ... it's not happening. I've encountered way too many neoliberals who balk at any suggestion support for Trump was anything other than racism and stupidity. It's a lot more complicated than that, and I put it like this on Reddit. I also shared this in my third-party Facebook group, and a ton of people replied saying they were driven to third parties by the insane behavior and fighting they're seeing between R and D, and they're starting to believe it's being done on purpose to keep a duopoly war machine running while real progress and change don't happen to the extend we need it to.

Anyway, what I shared to Reddit:

It's easy to dismiss half the country as "dumb fucks," but that isn't the case, and not understanding your political opponent is how you will continuously lose to them like the Dems have countlessly over the years.

Let's go as far back as Obama winning, which was momentous for obvious reasons. Everyone on his side was so enamored with the historical impact of it that he started getting a free pass for things that needed to be called to the carpet. He wasn't ending the war, as promised, among a list of other things. No President is perfect, and no one should act like they are.

Those who did speak out and criticize him were met with accusations of racism. Anyone who had legitimate criticisms were silenced and shamed and called racist. That’s when I saw the anger on the right rising. That’s when I saw accusations of a racist nation starting to stir and rise and start to become this perpetual machine that caused louder and louder outcry on one side, and anger and resentment on the other. And, don't get me wrong, there were plenty of people scared about a black man in office. There were people who had terrible, racist views and comments about it, but that wasn't everyone. His critics were growing angrier and angrier that he was seemingly given a free pass by his supporters and the media to do whatever he wanted because of who he was, and they were being labeled as racist for speaking out about it. Racism became a huge cry in our country, then. It was the ultimate deflection for the Democratic Party. And, in a moment when racism was put in the spotlight, the response from the Left was bashing people over the head and canceling them instead of stepping up to fight it, not with insults and attacks, but empathy and learning. It was a vicious time out there. I myself went through some great growth and learning, but man, people did not make it easy on me at all, no matter how sincere and earnest I was to try do the right thing. It was as if suddenly an opportunity to leap to the moral high ground presented itself, but people chose to snipe people from their position rather than help others up.

Then, Hilary stepped up. "Oh look, it's a Clinton. Didn't they lie to us, and maybe murder some people and cover it up too? Definitely the first, maybe the second, I dunno." And then you had Bernie rising up in prominence. He cared about progress, and fighting the status quo, and told us he didn't care about lobbyist money. He was a true believer, a light in the darkness, and the DNC seemingly snuffed him out.

Strike one against the DNC.

A good portion of American people had enough of the truth being hidden from the public and unreported. They had enough of deflection and dodging, and grew increasingly frustrated by a weakening financial system with few straight-forward answers. When whistleblowers that Reddit admires came out of the woodworks, a Democrat-led government participated in jailing and silencing them.

Then, the news of Clinton's emails came out, and what followed was a nail in the coffin of the Democratic party that election year. No one really gave a shit about emails on her laptop. I mean, really, she checked some emails on her laptop. To the every day citizen, who gives a shit? What they cared about was further lack of transparency and ownership in the face of it. Had she taken responsibility, and gracefully admitted her mistake I am willing to bet she won that election.

Instead, she doubled down and deflected it all. Deflected to how terrible Trump is, and wouldn’t just take some damned responsibility. And, in doing so, she reminded people of her husband, and how he lied to the American public on national television. And, she reminded them of all the responsibility Obama seemingly shirked for 8 years, and how her party called them all names when they tried to speak up for what was right.

And, then they saw Trump. Trump didn't seem to need anyone's money. He didn’t need to answer to anyone in government. He seemingly didn’t need to lie, he spoke his mind boldly no matter the consequences. It came across as blatant transparency, and the American people ate it up. Sure, he said some racist and ableist shit, but we all have a racist Uncle Donny, and he might be a mean cur sometimes, but we love him just the same because he worked hard and put food on the table and was kind to everyone on the surface, even if he didn't think much of them behind closed doors. So, here we were, Uncle Donny's in the Big House, and he's going to tell us what's up, he's going to help save our jobs. He's going to help stop the flood of drugs and violence and trafficking originating south of the border. Again, agree or not, they ate it up.

Hilary's only fighting chance was embracing truth and standing up for it even if it meant taking a hit to her credibility. Her inability and unwillingness to do so blew up in her face, it enraged people, lit a fire under their ass, and that’s partially how we ended up with Trump.

But, sure, continue to dismiss a large portion of the country as dumb. Keep calling them names. Keep sniping away. That's the lazy response, and it will keep you in the frustrating cycle you're in where you're outraged every 4-8 years for 4-8 years. And, it will continue to stay that way, back and forth, over and over, marching the same insane march we keep marching if you continue forward thinking everything is as simple as "oh, they're dumb." Maybe they are, but telling someone who is dumb they're dumb doesn't make them stop being dumb, and their vote counts just as much as yours. Guess who stays frustrated in the end? I highly encourage anyone who reads this and responds dismissively to practice some empathy and re-strategize, think about how much education is valuable, and how you can participate in spreading education and not hatred through insults.'

I also encourage you to see the irony and hypocrisy (I sincerely know this word is tough to hear) in a statement like "Its not hard to be companionate and acceptable of others" after saying Trump was "Completely elected because the stupid fucks decided to vote him in." Again, it can be easy to be dismissive, but "easy" isn't going to solve anything.