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Post by Ramplate on Sept 28, 2020 15:46:57 GMT -5
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Post by Neverending on Sept 29, 2020 13:07:06 GMT -5
Who ready for tonight?
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Post by Doomsday on Sept 29, 2020 13:14:24 GMT -5
Fox News and Breitbart have their 'Trump TRIUMPHS' and CNN and Huffington Post have their 'Biden DESTROYS' articles printed and ready to go by now. I'll just read those.
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Post by Dracula on Sept 29, 2020 13:14:50 GMT -5
Who ready for tonight? Not watching that shit. I have better things to do with my time than hear that fucker lie for three hours.
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Post by Frizzo the Clown on Sept 29, 2020 14:06:57 GMT -5
Trouble is, the debate is not going to sway anyone one way or another. Seriously. At this point, if still for Trump, you're ride or die for Trump. And if the debates steer you towards Trump, you're likely a garbage person anyway.
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Post by Neverending on Sept 29, 2020 14:20:40 GMT -5
Fox News and Breitbart have their 'Trump TRIUMPHS' and CNN and Huffington Post have their 'Biden DESTROYS' articles printed and ready to go by now. I'll just read those. Not watching that shit. I have better things to do with my time than hear that fucker lie for three hours. Trouble is, the debate is not going to sway anyone one way or another. Seriously. At this point, if still for Trump, you're ride or die for Trump. And if the debates steer you towards Trump, you're likely a garbage person anyway. What if it steers people away from Trump? The New York Times leaking Trump's taxes right before the debates is quite brilliant. This is a do-or-die moment for Sleepy Joe. If he doesn't wipe the floor with Trump then maybe he should be on performance enhancing drugs.
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Post by Doomsday on Sept 29, 2020 15:20:49 GMT -5
The New York Times leaking Trump's taxes right before the debates is quite brilliant. The problem with the taxes article is that it's playing directly into the narrative that Trump has pushed for the past 4 years, 'the media is out to get me' and 'the media is an extension of the Democratic Party' and 'they're only there to push one narrative' and 'they care more about their agenda than the truth' or whichever way you want to phrase it. Go read every right-wing media site, it's all of that verbatim. It's not about the taxes, it's about how the media is trying to sabotage the election which his base just eats up. It's totally obvious that the NYT released this when they did to influence the debate, that's clear to anyone, but it's shit like this that ultimately sways nobody and only riles Trump's base.
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Post by thebtskink on Sept 29, 2020 15:27:10 GMT -5
I'm watching and drinking.
I'd like to be prepared for the talking points from Trump people in my family/friends circle.
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Post by Neverending on Sept 29, 2020 15:49:43 GMT -5
The problem with the taxes article is that it's playing directly into the narrative Meanwhile, he hasn't denied what's in the leaked reports. That's why this is a turning point for Biden. He can go into attack mode, on not just the Woodward tapes, but also his taxes. Both of which are related. Trump's base needs to hear that Trump is $400 million in debt and he's ignoring Covid-19 to keep his businesses afloat. Not to mention, whoever he's in debt to, will come to collect their money. Do we really want a President who owes $400 million to Putin (among others)? These debates could be a wake-up call to some. Kinda like when Mitt Romney's "portfolio full of women" fell on its face.
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Post by Doomsday on Sept 29, 2020 15:56:01 GMT -5
The problem with the taxes article is that it's playing directly into the narrative Meanwhile, he hasn't denied what's in the leaked reports. That's why this is a turning point for Biden. He can go into attack mode, on not just the Woodward tapes, but also his taxes. Both of which are related. Trump's base needs to hear that Trump is $400 million in debt and he's ignoring Covid-19 to keep his businesses afloat. Not to mention, whoever he's in debt to, will come to collect their money. Do we really want a President who owes $400 million to Putin (among others)? These debates could be a wake-up call to some. Kinda like when Mitt Romney's "portfolio full of women" fell on its face. I agree with you, I just think that your average Trump supporter is going to blow this off like everything else and write it off as a 'hit job.' And the justification now is 'But did he do anything illegal? If not then fuck off.' It might stick with some independent voters but I don't think it'll do a dent to his base.
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Post by Neverending on Sept 29, 2020 15:59:39 GMT -5
It might stick with some independent voters Like Frizzo the Clown said, we gotta steer these folks to the left.
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Post by Frizzo the Clown on Sept 29, 2020 18:45:43 GMT -5
Not to mention, some of his supporters are probably okay him not paying taxes. Hell, they don't want to pay taxes, he was just the smart one to figure out how not to. He's a genius!
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Post by Neverending on Sept 29, 2020 20:18:41 GMT -5
This is a shitshow
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Post by thebtskink on Sept 29, 2020 20:32:07 GMT -5
Biden might stumble on a sentence, but he's mopping the floor with him.
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Post by Neverending on Sept 29, 2020 20:34:32 GMT -5
Biden might stumble on a sentence, but he's mopping the floor with him. Trump is talking over him and Chris Wallace. This isn’t even a debate. It’s just a Trump train wreck.
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Post by Neverending on Sept 29, 2020 21:16:04 GMT -5
Fox News and Breitbart have their 'Trump TRIUMPHS' and CNN and Huffington Post have their 'Biden DESTROYS' articles printed and ready to go by now. I'll just read those.
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Post by Neverending on Sept 29, 2020 21:40:01 GMT -5
Worst. Debate. Ever.
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Post by thebtskink on Sept 29, 2020 22:17:54 GMT -5
I may have lost some friends tonight calling them on BS.
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Post by Neverending on Sept 29, 2020 22:44:22 GMT -5
I miss the days of George W. Bush hiding a transmitter on his back.
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Post by Neverending on Sept 29, 2020 23:03:23 GMT -5
Bernie Sanders on Kimmel doing a better job of selling Biden’s own talking points. The Democrats really fucked up. If we manage to get rid of Trump, our next agenda is to restructure the Democratic Party. We can’t continue in this path.
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Post by Ramplate on Sept 30, 2020 8:56:26 GMT -5
Wallace lost control of the night. I think they have to start cutting mics for each turn to answer uninterrupted . You could still leave them open for actual debate . Both sides agreed to the same rules prior to the Night
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Post by Wyldstaar on Sept 30, 2020 10:56:54 GMT -5
Wallace lost control of the night. I think they have to start cutting mics for each turn to answer uninterrupted . You could still leave them open for actual debate . Both sides agreed to the same rules prior to the Night Agreed, but I suspect the reason they don't institute such a rule is that Trump would never agree to it. To do so would be to allow control to be taken away from him, and he can't deal with such a concept.
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