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Post by SnoBorderZero on Sept 27, 2024 16:53:58 GMT -5
Francis Ford Coppola is one of the most recognized names in cinema. And for good reason, as his filmography in the 1970s is unrivaled by any other filmmaker's when he graced the movie world with four absolute knockouts and vaulted himself beyond his contemporaries at the time. Since then though it's been a bit of an up-and-down story for the venerable director, drifting through flawed but artistically driven passion projects like One from the Heart to standard commercial fare with little of his vision on display with films like The Rainmaker. Regardless of what side you fall on regarding Coppola's post-1970s work, there's always been this hope that Coppola would return to form and grant us with one more epic masterpiece that would prove to be his swan song from the art form he helped propel to new heights. Since releasing The Rainmaker in 1997, Coppola had only directed three features and none since the laughably paltry Twixt in 2011. So as rumors began to swirl that Coppola was finally making Megalopolis, the first draft of which he had written decades ago, there was an understandable excitement around the project. It's ambitious, expensive, grandiose, and steeped in philosophical musings that made every film geek salivate at the idea that the old master had returned with a film to be discussed among his big four. I am here to sadly report that this is not the case. Megalopolis is a deeply flawed film that most viewers will laugh at when not struggling to make sense of everything it's trying to pack in, with odd casting choices and characters that are mere stand-ins for quotes and ideas making this big budget project anything but a blockbuster. And yet I couldn't look away. After several years yearning for Coppola to escape the invisible style of corporate commercialism in watered down products in the '80 and '90s, here he is making something so audacious, so unique, so definably his that when I wasn't scratching my head at bad dialogue or the lack of narrative coherence I was enjoying being swept up in a film the likes we've never seen before and never will again. For better and for worse. Megalopolis is set in "New Rome", which is really just contemporary New York City (I still don't fully understand beyond hammering the Roman Empire metaphors upon us every few seconds why Coppola does this since it's literally NYC down to today's companies and advertisements seen throughout the movie and really distracts from the fictional city he's trying to portray) but has changed things like Madison Square Garden into a modern Coliseum. Coppola is heavy on the Roman Empire, from quoting Marcus Aurelius to naming the lead characters Cesar (Adam Driver) and Cicero (Giancarlo Esposito). I don't think this ever fully works, as New Rome looks nothing like Rome and is -- as I griped above -- obviously just contemporary New York with some minor changes through CGI thrown in. Cesar is perhaps the city's most famous resident, acting as a more flamboyant cross between Robert Moses and Howard Hughes where the genius architect fixates on how to improve the city and turn it into a utopia while also attending all the wild nightlife has to offer and drowning himself in alcohol, drugs, and women. Driver delivers his lines with the serious grit of an intellectual in existential peril, spouting off enigmatic quotes to inferiors and reciting Hamlet while struggling with self-doubt and frustration at attempting to build a society for people who don't understand it. Opposing him is Mayor Cicero, who is widely disliked by New Rome's citizens and is dubious of Cesar's insistence on improving the city with megalon, an alien-like element that Cesar won the Nobel Prize for discovering. Megalon itself, much like Cesar's ability to freeze time, isn't explained but it appears to be an element that's able to float and adapt to become whatever structure Cesar desires it to support. His use of the megalon is largely subscribed to moving walkways and golden buildings twisting into the sky, but it also can apparently heal serious wounds and its full potential has yet to be tapped even by Cesar. When a catastrophe hits New Rome, it's Cesar's opportunity to rebuild the city in his vision of a utopia and attempt to carve out a New Rome that works for everyone, not just the wealthy. If this was the movie's sole focus, I think we would've really been in for a treat. The idea of a revolutionary architect attempting to create their vision of a utopia with an experimental element only to be met by challenges by city leaders and citizens alike is a fascinating one. A utopia is only a utopia in the eye of the beholder anyways, and the thought of Coppola exploring the good and bad these changes can have on a city is the movie I really wanted and the one we should've gotten. Megalopolis, as its title would suggest, is anything but restrained and is a massive movie with several characters, side plots, and downright absurd moments of excess that eat up more of the film's lengthy running time than I would have preferred. There's a whole host of characters and big names in this movie, from Laurence Fishburne to Dustin Hoffman to Talia Shire to Jon Voight to Shia LaBeouf. It's pretty wild seeing such a random cast come together on screen, and while it's fun to see some of these faces you haven't seen in awhile on the big screen (some due to age, some due to controversy) they never really seem to gel. Everyone seems to understand they're playing their roles for camp, but characters and plots fly in and out of this movie so often and usually without buildup or reason that you start to wonder why Coppola felt he had to stuff so much in. There's little payoff with any of the people involved in this movie, and what's most apparent is that none of these characters feel like people at all. They're all basically just walking, talking themes/quotes/allegories and you never elicit much from any of them aside from their very surface level characterizations that most don't shake by the film's end. One of Coppola's themes in Megalopolis surrounds a city steeped too far in excess, and unfortunately he's victim of the same offense. There's a lot of characters posturing and making speeches, but rarely do we understand them beyond that because the scenarios they continue to operate in feel manufactured and aimless. Megalopolis is a very busy movie, but it's clear that it would have been far more effective if it was less so. For those hoping for sprinkles of wonder, Megalopolis has that too. Most striking is a sequence where Cesar is driven to a shady part of town in the rain. The car passes large statues literally kneeling down from exhaustion at holding up the city. Cesar's thoughts race in a beautiful display of color and soft focus imagery as he hurdles towards the lone ray of gold in the area: a flower stand. There's another moment at a party where Cesar is heavily under the influence as he attempts to have the drugs drown out his pervasive thoughts about his utopia but the thoughts win the battle in a brilliantly visualized tug-of-war. For every moment of baffling nonsense or unnecessary character interactions, Coppola balances it with some truly amazing scenes that show the old master still very much has it. No matter where anyone lands on how they feel about Megalopolis (and most will not like it), no one can say the film lacks vigor, is stilted, or dull. Megalopolis is a wild movie. Messy, but not a mess. Steeped in magical realism that's so oneiric and of its own design while also grappling with complicated societal problems. It's a movie that's too much excess, not enough substance. It's a movie that has a lot of characters but no real people behind them. An arthouse film fashioned within a blockbuster. And most importantly it's a distinct movie that could only come from the visionary that is Coppola. For all of its flaws -- and there are plenty -- Megalopolis is a movie unlike any that's ever been made and will absolutely never be made again. No, this is not a late stage magnum opus to hang out with The Godfather or Apocalypse Now. But if this does prove to be Francis Ford Coppola's final film he ends his magnificent career in movies pushing his artistic abilities and delivering a movie that is unmistakably his. He leaves with a film that mirrors the career of its creator; at times brilliant, at times frustrating, but never compromised. 5/10
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Post by Neverending on Sept 28, 2024 7:10:59 GMT -5
SnoBorderZero Dracula PG Cooper DoomsdayD+ CinemaScore Brace yourself. Peggy Sue Got Married (1986): B+ Gardens of Stone (1987): B+ Tucker: The Man and His Dream (1988): A New York Stories (1989): B The Godfather Part III (1990): B+ Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992): B– Jack (1996): B+ The Rainmaker (1997): A–
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Post by Dracula on Sept 28, 2024 14:27:11 GMT -5
Megalopolis(9/26/2024) About a month ago Lionsgate released a trailer for the movie Megalopolis which opened by saying “one filmmaker has always been ahead of his time” accompanied by a variety of quotes from reviews of Francis Ford Coppola movies that are now acknowledged as classics like The Godfather and Apocalypse Now. This trailer ended up being pulled after it was revealed that most of those quotes were fake, and possibly generated by AI. That use of fake quotes is of course gross and embarrassing for all involved and people were right to be angry… that having said, if they’d just done their homework and found some real quotes I would have rather liked the message they were going for. This was of course done to get ahead of the rather negative reviews of the movie they were expecting after the movie’s rocky reception at Cannes, basically telling audiences to see the film for themselves and make up their own minds instead of letting critics tell them what to do. Now there’s a way that such a message could come off as rather anti-intellectual and insulting to critics, who do in fact serve an important role in film discourse and as someone who poses as a critic myself I would be in a position to find this insulting. Indeed, if the “who cares what critics say” message was being used to market a movie that was lowest common denominator slop I would have indeed found that message rather obnoxious, but that’s not really what Megalopolis is, quite the opposite the message seems to be that this is going to be a movie doing challenging stuff that won’t be for everyone and which may well be vindicated by the critics of the future. To me that’s an exciting sell, and one that invites people to not let media narratives tell them what to think and to be adventurous in their viewing and to take risks on movies that might sound “weird” from the reviews and word of mouth but may well work for them. So in that spirit I do encourage people to give Megalopolis a look and come to their own conclusions… because the rest of what I have to say probably won’t encourage that.
Megalopolis is set in a fantasy city/country called “New Rome” which is like a fusion of Ancient Roman culture and iconography with the modern United States and specifically New York City. As we enter into the story the mayor of “New Rome” is Franklyn Cicero (Giancarlo Esposito) who is a rival of Cesar Catilina (Adam Driver), a Nobel winning scientist and architect with a time stopping power he could stand to use more and who invented a futuristic building material and is now Chairman of the Design Authority and is trying to build an utopian project called the “Megalopolis.” Cicero tries to smear Catilina about the details surrounding Catilina’s wife and things begin to escalate after Catilina’s lover Wow Platinum (Aubrey Plaza) leaves him for the wealthy banker Hamilton Crassus III (Jon Voight) and in steps Franklyn Cicero’s daughter Julia Cicero (Nathalie Emmanuel), who takes a job in Cesar Catilina’s office and eventually becomes his new lover. This enrages Franklyn Cicero who escalates his smear campaign, even trying to frame Catilina for a crime and both men must also contend with the rise of Clodio Pulcher (Shia LaBeouf), a populist who intends to use people’s frustration with the Megalopolis to acquire power.
Comparisons between the Roman Empire and the United States have been made pretty much since the nation’s founding and with Megalopolis the famously Italian-American Francis Ford Coppola makes the comparison rather literal what with all the names and with various set-pieces like a mid-film sequence that places chariot races in the middle of Madison Square Garden. Visuals like that are the film’s strongest aspect: most of the characters are decked out in outfits that try to split the difference between modern fashion and ancient garments like togas and a lot of work was done giving the film fantastical sets and visuals. There are also some individual scenes to be found throughout Megalopolis that are creative and impressive and Coppola seems to have put a lot of work and thought behind a lot of them… but they sure don’t cohere into a story that makes a whole lot of sense. For all the thought Coppola put into how this world would look he sure doesn’t explain a lot about how it actually works. Ostensibly “New Rome” is supposed to be a Republic with Franklyn Cicero as its elected ruler but it’s never that clear what power Cesar Catilina really has as the Chairman of the Design Authority and where that power comes from given that the mayor seems to hate him. He’s ostensibly spending his time building “megalopolis” but the movie doesn’t do much to lay out exactly what levers he needs to pull to do this or what’s stopping him outside of a set of beefs with the people around him and his various personal psychodramas. The many, many, many other characters and their roles in all of this also aren’t introduced or laid out very clearly either, they make power play after power play and the stakes involved are never that clear because we don’t really know how this political system work or how close to our own world it is.
Perhaps more importantly, it’s never actually that clear to the audience what this “megalopolis” even is or why we should be rooting for its construction. It isn’t clear where it will be in the city, how encompassing it is, or what purpose it will serve. When we finally do get glimpses of it late in the film it kind of looks like a central park but moving walkways and glowing Assassins Creed Isu buildings in it but that’s about all we get. Presumably Coppola keeps this vague because “megalopolis” is supposed to be a utopian construction project and a mere mortal like Coppola is in no position to explain what a utopian solution to this society’s various problems is supposed to be but that kind of forces the audience to take a lot on faith and prevents us from meaningfully engaging with the various criticisms that get lobbed at Catilina and his project. On some level I suspect that all of this is, like a lot of Coppola’s work, supposed to be a metaphor for his own struggles with the film industry with Catilina as a self-insert: a flawed man but one with a vision that would be so great if the haters just got out of his way and let him work his miracles. The thing is, Catilina is not strictly an artist and the people opposing him are not greedy executives. This is politics we’re talking about and in politics the stakes are a lot higher than they are in art. You’re not just gambling with Hollywood money when you’re a city planner, you’re gambling with tax payer money and with people’s lives. The film does at least touch on the fact that the people are unsure about this whole project but we don’t get a whole lot of details about why that is or what they do about it, the construction just seems to keep on going on off screen so long as Catilina is able to get out of his own way.
I also have to ask what the point of this whole “America as Rome” metaphor is even supposed to be. Historically that comparison is supposed to be cautionary: America is great like Rome was, but Rome eventually became too decadent and fell and America can easily go the way of Rome.” The film certainly plays into this and is very interested in this Roman/Amercian decadence, making that the central bit of spectacle in its first half but in a lot of ways that metaphor kind of doesn’t go anywhere. We don’t really get the sense that New Rome is in danger of turning from a Republic to an Empire in the first place despite some rather tepid machinations by Clodio Pulcher and there certainly aren’t any barbarians at the gates threatening to bring the city down by the end. Rather Coppola seems to suggest that the fall of New Rome is averted here by the thwarting of Pulcher and the construction of “megalopolis,” but why? If anything the construction of some glowing central entertainment district (or whatever that thing is supposed to be) would indicate an increase in decadence rather than any real solution to societal ills. Whatever “megalopolis” is supposed to represent it seems like a pretty shallow deus ex machina of a solution to whatever societal rot that Coppola seemed to think he was illustrating in the film’s first half.
I would probably be a lot more willing to go along with the film’s rather messy world-building if I found the movie more compelling on a human level but I didn’t get much out of the film’s character work either. Frankly a lot of the people here seem less like actual people and more like representations of various philosophies. In broad strokes Catilina is meant to be a brilliant dreamer and striver but he mopes around the film in a way that’s rarely relatable and I have no idea what the point of his “stopping time” power that he rarely actually uses is supposed to be. Cicero is supposed to represent pragmatism on some level but as a person he seems to mostly be animated by petty beefs and resentments and his daughter is mostly just characterized by her early rebelliousness and later by the fact that she comes to see Catilina’s brilliance and proceeds to love and support him. Everyone else, just mostly seems over the top and wacky. Aubrey Plaza at least seems to be having fun and Shia LaBeouf is enjoyably slimy but we spend so little time with most of them that there’s little room to lean much about them or what their motivations are.
It’s become something of a cliché to say that certain movies would have made more sense as a prestige mini-series (such complaints also dogged this year’s other self-financed passion project, Horizon: An American Saga) but that definitely seems to be the case with this one as some more running time would have given us a lot more time to get to know this large cast and what motivates them and to have their various power plays explained as they’re happening. As is everything just seems crammed into this really short runtime and details of how everything plays out just gets left on the cutting room floor including entire character deaths that are handled in off-handed cutaways and seeming disasters coming out of nowhere and then no longer being issues shortly thereafter. It’s possible that I’m missing the forest for the trees a little by asking for so many explanations and details, but at the same time I think the film does invite that. This doesn’t really play out like a tone poem, it plays out like a very big epic story set over years and exploring this invented society and yet the exploration of it we get is cryptic and surface level. It doesn’t really make sense as science fiction, it doesn’t really make sense as human drama, and it doesn’t really make sense as satire. I keep looking for a route that would justify all this and I’m kind of not finding it. But for all the movie isn’t giving me some part of me still wants to defend it, and that’s partially just because seeing a crazed ambitious failure is always going to be inherently more interesting than watching a “normal” failure. Coppola does give us some interesting and provocative images to chew on and there’s entertainment of sorts to be found in seeing his id projected onto the screen, but he either didn’t think this one through enough or he thought it through so much that he lost track of the fact that he needed to communicate his thoughts too much to an audience and the movie suffered quite a bit because of it. ** out of Five
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Post by Neverending on Sept 29, 2024 3:27:00 GMT -5
Doomsday & frankyt watching Megalopolis on a random Wednesday night a month from now.
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Post by IanTheCool on Sept 30, 2024 17:38:57 GMT -5
Listening to Pg Cooper and Dracula argue about this movie in real time was quite entertaining.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Oct 1, 2024 8:38:28 GMT -5
Listening to Pg Cooper and Dracula argue about this movie in real time was quite entertaining. Ohhhh, I'm looking forward to this...
I didn't go see this. Instead, going to see The Shining on the big screen felt like a better use of a theater trip this weekend, and I don't regret it.
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 1, 2024 9:27:00 GMT -5
Listening to Pg Cooper and Dracula argue about this movie in real time was quite entertaining. Ohhhh, I'm looking forward to this... I didn't go see this. Instead, going to see The Shining on the big screen felt like a better use of a theater trip this weekend, and I don't regret it.
Fair. I don't think you'll like Megalopolis.
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Post by Dracula on Oct 1, 2024 9:41:46 GMT -5
Listening to Pg Cooper and Dracula argue about this movie in real time was quite entertaining. Ohhhh, I'm looking forward to this... I don't think that that got recorded unfortunately, but I think the conclusion we came to is that I am making more of a distinction between "fascinating" and "good" than Coop is when it comes to this one.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Oct 1, 2024 9:54:39 GMT -5
Ohhhh, I'm looking forward to this... I don't think that that got recorded unfortunately, but I think the conclusion we came to is that I am making more of a distinction between "fascinating" and "good" than Coop is when it comes to this one. IanTheCool, you tease!
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Post by IanTheCool on Oct 5, 2024 19:21:38 GMT -5
Well, I gotta gather some thoughts
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Post by Neverending on Oct 6, 2024 6:39:42 GMT -5
Ohhhh, I'm looking forward to this... I didn't go see this. Instead, going to see The Shining on the big screen felt like a better use of a theater trip this weekend, and I don't regret it.
Fair. I don't think you'll like Megalopolis. PhantomKnight grew up on the Spy Kids movies. This is right up his alley.
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Post by IanTheCool on Oct 6, 2024 10:15:10 GMT -5
This has proven to be a divisive movie, and I really wanted to be on the side of people who like it. Because far be it for me to criticize one of the most renowned film-makers on how he put together his magnum opus that he has been working on for decades... and yet that's exactly what I'm going to do.
This is a movie that has strong bones but is ultimately a muddled disaster. That's the real kicker here: this had the potential to be truly great. There's some really great stuff here. I loved the roman coding on everything (its definitely not subtle in the least, but I liked it regardless). I appreciated the power machinations of the rich families. I liked the central theme of the movie being a clash between societal philosophies.
This movie is very ambitious and its clear Coppola wanted to make it with a lot of flair and wanted to avoid it being too straight-forward and typical. That's all well and good, but I believe that it still would have benefited a lot from a little more clarity. The issue here is the goals of each of the characters . You can deduce from the film what each character's motivations are and what they are striving towards, but the problem is we don't feel it. These goals should be the driving force of the story, propelling us forward and coalescing the whole picture into a complete whole. Instead, the story is too scattered to allow this to happen.
For a movie that has been in development for so long, the script somehow feels unfinished. The plot points are solid; I like the story beats and where it goes. But the connections between these points is too rough and confusing. The dialogue is also quite poor. Whereas Coppola's directing methods feel vague and subtle, the dialogue is the opposite. Characters speak too bluntly about whatever the script wants to say at that time. A good example of this is when Julia is talking about art to Cesar on the hanging beams, an otherwise gorgeous scene. Some of the line deliveries also feel jarring, which doesn't help.
Damn. It came so close to greatness, but unfortunately those wax wings melted.
5/10
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Post by PhantomKnight on Oct 6, 2024 10:55:41 GMT -5
Fair. I don't think you'll like Megalopolis. PhantomKnight grew up on the Spy Kids movies. This is right up his alley. With everything I read about Megalopolis, a scene like this honestly sounds like it would fit in the movie:
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 15, 2024 21:51:42 GMT -5
I don't think it's overstating things to call Megalopolis the cinematic event of the year. It's a far cry from 2024's biggest movie, nor its most anticipated with regard to suspected quality, but so what? Blockbusters and critical darlings come every year; an aging auteur selling his business assets to self-finance a $120 million passion project that he's been nurturing since the 1980s and will quite likely be his final word on film? Ah, that's a rarer thing. Free from the creative interference of a studio, from the compromises to commercial interests, even from thinking about his career as a director moving forward, Francis Ford Coppola has given the world an unvarnished look into his mind. The results are dazzling and imaginative, but also deeply frustrating and incomplete. It might be one of the best films of the year? To start with the most obvious good, Megalopolis is a visual wonder. Coppola has been experimenting with digital filmmaking throughout the 21st century but the larger budget and scale (along with technical advancements since 2011) result in a much more sweeping and spectacular cinematic vision. The film's imagery is beautiful and thought provoking, with the overall aesthetic eschewing realism to embrace the beauty of cinematic artifice, a digital counterpoint to the celebration of analog filmmaking offered in Coppola's Dracula. That being said, Megalopolis's digital experimentation is aided by practical filmmaking elements, particularly in the costumes and sets, a lovely fusion of ancient Rome and science-fiction. The film's set-pieces are impressive but even seemingly simple dialogue scenes are loaded with creativity. I don't think five minutes go by without some sort of hypnotic visual. Narratively, Megalopolis is far more fraught. The film is clearly playing with some grand ideas with regard to the development of utopia and the nature of making art - Cesar Catilina and his struggles to build his dream city are a rather transparent analogue for Coppola's own struggles to realize his cinematic ambitions - but the execution on screen is vague and ill-defined. It's not particularly clear in even a metaphorical sense what the titular Megalopolis actually is or what Cesar is looking to accomplish in it. That makes it difficult to fully invest in the power struggles between Cesar and various powerbrokers in the city like Mayor Cicero. For that matter, the supporting characters could have been more fleshed out. I'm tempted to say they're more mouthpieces for different ideologies than they are people but in practice they're not even really that. They're certainly conduits for allowing various dialogues but even as representations of concepts they are lacking. Thankfully, the cast is largely able to elevate the characters from what is on the page through sheer force of personality. I really shouldn't have been moved by Cicero's relationship with his daughter but I'll be damned if Giancarlo Esposito didn't get me. That Megalopolis is so astounding visually makes it easy to shrug one's shoulders and say the actual story is secondary... but I don't know how true that is. This is a movie about a brilliant yet flawed creator struggling to realize an ambitious project while having to circumvent a complex system which opposes these sorts of ambitions and outfoxing various powerful individuals working against him. That Godfather-esque framework does invite a bit more consideration for plot. Indeed, Megalopolis is heavy in plotting, with several subplots, schemes, and obstacles introduced to seemingly complicate the story and extend the drama... but little of it seems to actually matter. Character actions are set-up quite strongly and then fizzle off-screen, plot beats like Cesar's accounts being frozen don't have any real impact, Millennium Wow's subplot takes up a ton of screentime and while many of its scenes are great, including the payoff, it all feels largely tangential to Cesar. And yet, in spite of what I consider to be pretty massive issues, I was still completely engrossed and compelled by Megalopolis. That's partially a result of the film's boundless visual imagination but it's also a response to the film's ideas, underdeveloped though they may be. The sheer transparency with which Coppola is clearly expressing his own artistic ambitions and frustrations is powerful in its own right, especially knowing how long the man has been developing this story. I suspect that earlier versions of this story likely cast Cesar as a much more ambiguous character, a visionary whose growing hubris and ambition eventually turned him into some matter of a tyrant, not totally dissimilar to Kurtz or Michael Corleone. But as the decades wore on and Coppola no doubt saw more and more of himself in Cesar, the portrait shifted to a more sincere and flattering portrait of an idealistic dreamer. That does create some thematic inconsistency as glimmers of Cesar's harm are still present - the film very much underlines that his city is being built atop the destroyed homes of New Rome's poor citizens - but it does feel an honest expression of Coppola's worldview. Moreover, even this contradictory portrait is revealing, in part because the rest of the film's vagueness. That Coppola never explains or even implies what Megalopolis actually is or what it offers renders it, at best, an ambitious artwork, and at worst, a self-serving vanity project. Cesar carries himself as an idealist dreaming of utopia but all he really cares about is getting the resources and permission to make the shit he wants. Viewed as self-portrait, that's incredibly damning, and takes an even sharper edge in light of the ending when the city inexplicably succeeds from the brink of failure and Cesar makes a rousing speech which wins over both the city's poor and Mayor Cicero. So much of Coppola's own legend, especially as the great auteur of the 70s, is built in stories of his hustling studio heads and moneymen to overlook their own instincts and trust this weirdo's mad vision. Cesar's success could simply be a self-flattering endorsement that Coppola himself is always right but given the glimmers of critique - and the choice cuts to Hitler and Mussolini in the final speech - I think something more subversive is going on, possibly an admission that Coppola is himself a charlatan, less a visionary idealist than he is a very talented huckster. The city of Megalopolis may be read as a metaphor of the film's own making but it may also be a metaphor for The Godfather and Coppola's subsequent New Hollywood career, the promise of visionary revolution that is ultimately destine to implode. And Cesar fits into a cynical broader portrait of an elite ruling class, comprised of self-serving ego maniacs (Cesar), the obscenely wealthy or hoard their resources accept for when they can perform generosity to bolster their own reputation (Crassus), duplicitous populists who weaponize poverty to strengthen themselves (Clodio), and centrists who keep the machine's working while maintaining a status quo which abandons an underclass (Cicero). I'm not even sure if Coppola, an elderly and very wealthy man, even realizes his film is saying this but at a certain point it doesn't matter, it's a powerful expression just the same. Before recording a new podcast episode, Dracula and I were discussing Megalopolis off-mic, and at one point he said to me, somewhat jokingly but also quite perceptively, "I think you're confusing 'fascinating' with 'good'." He's not wrong. By most metrics that I would judge a film, Megalopolis falls rather short. But on the other hand, how often do we get movies that fascinate us? A-
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Post by Neverending on Oct 16, 2024 11:49:34 GMT -5
Doomsday doesn’t have the courage for a Megalopolis/Joker double feature, but a Megalopolis/Beetlejuice double feature is right up his alley.
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Post by Doomsday on Oct 16, 2024 11:53:17 GMT -5
Around awards season they have promotional screenings with filmmaker/writers/actors for movies the studios want to market. Megalopolis is on my list to hit but probably won't be for another few weeks.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 16, 2024 11:54:48 GMT -5
Around awards season they have promotional screenings with filmmaker/writers/actors for movies the studios want to market. Megalopolis is on my list to hit but probably won't be for another few weeks. You think Megalopolis is getting nominated for anything?
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Post by Doomsday on Oct 16, 2024 12:45:41 GMT -5
Around awards season they have promotional screenings with filmmaker/writers/actors for movies the studios want to market. Megalopolis is on my list to hit but probably won't be for another few weeks. You think Megalopolis is getting nominated for anything? I hear the VFX are pretty crummy but I think if anything they'll take a swing for that. But these studios plug anything and everything, if it didn't bomb back in February then they'll likely have something, somewhere.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 16, 2024 19:14:29 GMT -5
You think Megalopolis is getting nominated for anything? I hear the VFX are pretty crummy but I think if anything they'll take a swing for that. But these studios plug anything and everything, if it didn't bomb back in February then they'll likely have something, somewhere. Megalopolis isn’t getting nominated, but Beetlejuice will.
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