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Post by FShuttari on Oct 20, 2021 5:45:07 GMT -5
Got a chance to see this over the weekend. Really great film. Very Intense, everyone was good and acted well. But Jodi was the stand out, she deserves some major award recognitions and nominations.
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 20, 2021 21:27:05 GMT -5
Ridley Scott's best movie in years, since at least The Martian, but possibly as far back as 2005's Kingdom of Heaven. That Scott would show expertise in staging large-scale medieval battles and the clashing of knights in armor is perhaps unsurprising, but that doesn't make it any less exhilarating. The sound design in particular is excellent and the titular duel is an incredibly tense piece of action filmmaking which serves as an emotionally loaded climax to a fraught story. Moreover, Scott's skill in crafting heroic battles takes on new meaning in a film whose Rashomon-style of storytelling causes us to reconsider the valor of those early scenes, particularly in light of that climax. This is also where comparisons to Kingdom of Heaven come in; both films see no value or worth in stories of men killing each other for their own.
What separates the two - and distinguishes The Last Duel from Scott's other historical epics - is how intimate and even insular this film is. The entirety of the drama rests on three characters and their perspective on what's happened. The film is really a character piece, the shifting perspectives meaning Matt Damon, Adam Driver, and Jodie Comer each acting as protagonist for a third of the story. All three do brilliant work and it is equally rewarding to see them perform as it is to see how their characters shift in perception depending on if they're the lead or merely supporting at a given moment. The brilliance of the shifting point of view, though, is the way it informs the central theme. The Last Duel has been both praised and lambasted for being a #MeToo movie. Indeed, the film is rather transparently a film produced in a post #MeToo world but I'd argue its ideas a bit more sophisticated than "rape bad" or "believe women". The real core of this movie is the ways in which men view women as property - as objects only worth empathy in so far as how they relate to men. This idea is not in and of itself widely original, but the use of the Rashomon structure allows this to be dramatized in a striking and powerful way. Property also informs the plot in a very literal way (it does not seem coincidence that capital and land ownership are the initial catalysts of conflict) the attitudes displayed throughout remain relevant.
The film's final act in particular becomes a rather detailed exploration of the trauma of coming forward with allegations of sexual violence, particularly that which is inflicted in litigation. I don't want to get into spoilers as The Last Duel is floundering at the box office and really does deserve to be seen. I'm gonna keep things vague enough that I don't think I need to click the "SPOILERS" button, but if you haven't seen the movie yet, maybe skip this paragraph. So, The Last Duel feels to me an unintentional response to last year's rape revenge hit Promising Young Woman. Personally, I quite liked that movie, but a common criticism of the film, and one I have mixed feelings about, is that the film's gestures towards justice are entirely hollow; that they rely on the very institutions the movie seems to incriminate elsewhere, and that no restoration or adequate address to crimes of sexual violence are actually offered. These issues are very much at the core of The Last Duel which faces this failure of justice head on.
So yeah, The Last Duel is pretty great. Frankly I was a bit taken aback by how pulled into the story I was. Ridley Scott's amazing sense of technical skill and perfectionism are matched with a screenplay which plays to his strengths and offers a thoughtful take on sexual violence. And for those not interested in weighing the film's place in the #MeToo era, it's also just a great story told with supreme skill. Great performances too. I haven't found a place to bring up Ben Affleck, but the man is awesome here. Yeah, you can criticize the inconsistent accents of he (and everyone else) but he really gets to cut loose with this character and feels invigorated on-screen. The Last Duel's box-office failure is crushingly disappointing (if not totally unexpected given the whole global pandemic thing) but I'm very confident the film will be remembered as a late-career high for one of the great filmmakers.
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Post by thebtskink on Oct 20, 2021 21:49:11 GMT -5
It's my favorite movie of the year so far.
What I find fascinating about it are the subtle touches that belie the male characters' self serving narratives. Damon believes everything should be handed to him - his expectations at the knighting ceremony of applause. Driver believes he should be claiming more and more for himself - no different from the wolves outside Afflecks castle.
I may come back and post something more detailed, but this movieis fantastic.
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Post by Dracula on Oct 21, 2021 15:49:38 GMT -5
The Last Duel(10/17/2021)
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We talk a lot about how amazing it is that Martin Scorsese is still making large scale and vital movies at the ripe old age of 78 and yet people seem oddly less shocked that Ridley Scott, who is actually five years Scorsese’s elder, seems to be able to mount even larger (if probably less vital) movies on a near regular basis. Scott is truly the last of a dying breed, a filmmaker in the vein of a Howard Hawkes who can make movies in all sorts of commercial genres (while specializing in a few) and can adjust himself to each of them while still having a detectable style if you know what to look for. It’s one thing to be a director who makes a lot of movies in this day and age but the other super-prolific filmmakers these days tend to be people like Steven Soderbergh who put together smaller scale efforts but Ridley Scott seems to crank out rather massive productions, especially since he sort of reinvented himself at the turn of the millennium with Gladiator. He’ll work in a smaller movie like Matchstick Men here or there, but the majority of his many movies are ambitious productions made for tens of millions of dollars. Of course the downside of his productivity is that his work can be inconsistent. I don’t get the impression that he phones in certain projects at all but he does not write his own scripts and sometimes seems to rush projects into production that haven’t quite been perfected on the page yet and for every hit like The Martian there seem to be two misses like Exodus: Gods and Kings or Alien: Covenant. This year we’re getting not one but two Scott productions in fairly quick succession, the first of them being a medieval epic that seems to be very much in his wheelhouse with The Last Duel.
The film is set in Northern France in the late 14th century and the film’s title refers to a trial by combat that would be fought between a knight named Jean de Carrouges (Matt Damon) and a squire named Jacques Le Gris (Adam Driver), who had once been friends but who had grown increasingly antagonistic over the years, reaching a fever pitch when it is accused that Le Gris had raped de Carrouges’ wife Marguerite (Jodie Comer). The film is presented as three separate accounts, one from each of these people, of the events leading up to this. First we see de Carrouges’s account, in which he views himself as a perennial underdog constantly being treated unfairly by Le Gris and their mutual lord, the Count Pierre d'Alençon (Ben Affleck), before finally hatching a scheme to sidestep the biased courts and defend his woman’s honor. We then see Le Gris’ account, in which de Carrouges is actually an unhinged idiot whose various problems are largely self-inflicted wounds caused by his perennial bridge burning and whose oafish abusiveness drove Le Gris and Marguerite into an affair. We then get Marguerite’s account, which I will hold off from revealing as much about, but who has her own perspective on both of these men and the society around them leading up to the fateful duel of the title.
Akira Kurosawa made his film Rashomon in 1950 and it remains the touchstone whenever someone makes movies about diverging viewpoints of a single event. People talk about that movie as if to suggest that it’s a movie where every character’s point of view is valid and that it’s a movie about the subjectivity of truth but I don’t think that’s exactly right. In that movie events diverge in ways that are too dramatic to be explained away as simply differences of perspective; some of those characters have to be lying, or maybe all of them are lying, but it’s a movie about deception rather than good faith disagreement. That is not necessarily the case with The Last Duel though. We get three versions of more or less the same events here, there’s no voice over or anything but the title cards label them as the “truth” according to the people involved so to some extent we’re presumably supposed to view them as dramatizations of each person’s testimony and while all of them could be said to be guilty of lies of omission they actually don’t really contradict each other, at least not in matters of basic fact. Even when it comes to the central sexual assault neither the “he said” nor the “she said” really depicts different actions, rather they only differ insomuch as the “he said” is looking at the encounter through a toxic lens in which “no” can mean “yes.”
Where the accounts do diverge are in matters of intention and emphasis. For example we learn in Jean de Carrouges’ story that a piece of land that was promised to him in a dowry was taken from him by the Count and given to Le Gris but Le Gris’ own account asserts that this wasn’t his own machination and was instead kind of an inadvertent benefit of him being favored and we get a better idea of why de Carrouges as viewed as unfavorably as he was by the court. Of course the story that diverges most dramatically is Marguerite’s story, which tends to more heavily emphasize how nasty the Damon character could be and how little she even knew the Le Gris character. That story also displays the full extent of how archaic medieval views of sex and gender could be to the point of rape being viewed as a property crime committed against the husband of the victim and some very backwards notions of the science of conception. Where the two men spend their whole narratives trying to show how much of an asshole the other is, her account basically just confirms how right both of them are: they are indeed both assholes, but their own accounts give a good idea of why they’re also both so incapable of self-reflection.
This being a period epic of sorts from Ridley Scott one feels compelled to compare it to the first costume drama that rejuvenated Scott’s career, Gladiator. That was a movie with a much dumber script than this movie has but a lot of that movie’s faults are kind of painted over by its star Russell Crowe, who feels almost perfectly at home giving a commanding movie star performance and just seems to have a face that looks good in that environment. As Chris Rock would say in an Oscar monologue a few years later: “if your movie’s set in the past, get Russell Crowe’s ass.” Scott’s other period epics like Kingdom of Heaven have kind of struggled to find actors with the same timeless quality and this one is no exception. Matt Damon and Ben Affleck (along with Nicole Holofcener) wrote the movie’s screenplay in addition to starring here and they may well have been better served by dipping out of the project once the writing is done because there is kind of something odd about seeing these two Boston bros hanging out in Medieval France in a way that might have been less jarring if they weren’t both there. They also aren’t helped by some rather strange hairstyling ideas, which I’m sure sounds like a ridiculously superficial thing to harp on but seeing Affleck with a bleached blonde goatee and Damon with a sort of mullet and a moustache-less beard is distracting. It just is. I have reason to think this follicle decision is actually historically accurate but it doesn’t feel that way and Adam Driver seemed to get away with his usual shoulder length locks and his co-stars may have been better served being similarly lazy.
As for Ridley Scott’s own direction, I’d say it’s mostly solid but he is at a stage in his career where he isn’t really doing much to surprise his audience. Dariusz Wolski’s cinematography is very in line with other films he’s made with Scott and aside from the structure (which is not insignificant) this does probably feel of a piece with Kingdom of Heaven and Robin Hood. In this sense Scott is perhaps simultaneously the most perfect and most imperfect person to direct a movie like this: he’s obviously well positioned to film the titular duel, which is a nicely gritty big of violence but is he really the voice that the film world wants to be commenting on rape culture and #MeToo? Well, on that front he (Thelma and Louise not withstanding) and the epic costume drama genre in general are strange bedfellows for that hot button issue and I think that will make this a bit of a tough sell with both critics and audiences but at the end of the day I think all parties involved acquit themselves pretty nicely. The film is especially impressive by the standards of large scale Hollywood filmmaking: everyone constantly begs for more big budget non-franchise films for adults and this is emphatically that and it’s that done pretty well on top of that. **** out of Five
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 21, 2021 20:02:34 GMT -5
Akira Kurosawa made his film Rashomon in 1950 and it remains the touchstone whenever someone makes movies about diverging viewpoints of a single event. People talk about that movie as if to suggest that it’s a movie where every character’s point of view is valid and that it’s a movie about the subjectivity of truth but I don’t think that’s exactly right. In that movie events diverge in ways that are too dramatic to be explained away as simply differences of perspective; some of those characters have to be lying, or maybe all of them are lying, but it’s a movie about deception rather than good faith disagreement. That is not necessarily the case with The Last Duel though. We get three versions of more or less the same events here, there’s no voice over or anything but the title cards label them as the “truth” according to the people involved so to some extent we’re presumably supposed to view them as dramatizations of each person’s testimony I was thinking about this a lot during the movie and I agree with you. Rashomon makes it explicit that each perspective is that character's testimony to a judge. The stories are trying to persuade in the best interest of the storyteller. But I'm not sure The Last Duel's perspectives are meant to be testimony. I might me wrong but my understanding is Le Gris denied the meeting in public outright, at least based on the private conversation with Pierre ("Deny. Deny deny deny.") Plus it seems key that each story isn't framed as something relayed from one character to another. But yeah, broad strokes I agree. The Last Duel is about perception, Rashomon is about lies.
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Post by Dracula on Oct 21, 2021 20:18:04 GMT -5
Akira Kurosawa made his film Rashomon in 1950 and it remains the touchstone whenever someone makes movies about diverging viewpoints of a single event. People talk about that movie as if to suggest that it’s a movie where every character’s point of view is valid and that it’s a movie about the subjectivity of truth but I don’t think that’s exactly right. In that movie events diverge in ways that are too dramatic to be explained away as simply differences of perspective; some of those characters have to be lying, or maybe all of them are lying, but it’s a movie about deception rather than good faith disagreement. That is not necessarily the case with The Last Duel though. We get three versions of more or less the same events here, there’s no voice over or anything but the title cards label them as the “truth” according to the people involved so to some extent we’re presumably supposed to view them as dramatizations of each person’s testimony I was thinking about this a lot during the movie and I agree with you. Rashomon makes it explicit that each perspective is that character's testimony to a judge. The stories are trying to persuade in the best interest of the storyteller. But I'm not sure The Last Duel's perspectives are meant to be testimony. I might me wrong but my understanding is Le Gris denied the meeting in public outright, at least based on the private conversation with Pierre ("Deny. Deny deny deny.") Plus it seems key that each story isn't framed as something relayed from one character to another. But yeah, broad strokes I agree. The Last Duel is about perception, Rashomon is about lies. I guess not literally public testimony within the diegesis of the film, but maybe like a confession to a priest or something.
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Post by Doomsday on Nov 6, 2021 12:02:10 GMT -5
I missed this before they all but completely yanked it from theaters near me, bummer. I very well may blind buy it given the filmmaker and word of mouth.
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Post by thebtskink on Nov 6, 2021 12:15:39 GMT -5
I missed this before they all but completely yanked it from theaters near me, bummer. I very well may blind buy it given the filmmaker and word of mouth. I think it may be on streaming around time of Dracula's top ten thread.
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Post by Dracula on Nov 6, 2021 12:24:19 GMT -5
I missed this before they all but completely yanked it from theaters near me, bummer. I very well may blind buy it given the filmmaker and word of mouth. I think it may be on streaming around time of Dracula 's top ten thread. It's 20th Century Fox, so, per pre-existing contracts with HBO they still need to follow a fairly traditional home video roll-out. That means it will hit VOD around the time of its physical blu-ray release and then it needs to run on HBO/HBO max at about the pace you'd expect it to, then it eventually reverts to Disney who will probably put it on Hulu eventually.
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Post by frankyt on Nov 6, 2021 13:39:40 GMT -5
I liked it quite a bit. Thought the rashomon style story telling was very effective.
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Post by frankyt on Nov 6, 2021 14:56:55 GMT -5
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Post by PhantomKnight on Nov 15, 2021 14:48:22 GMT -5
Ridley Scott's The Last Duel can easily rank alongside The Martian as some of the director's absolute best work in quite some time. It steeps itself in the medieval milieu that the director has shown he can operate in quite confidently and comfortably, but what sets this film apart is the fact that it's decidedly more intimate in focus. That's not to say that the production design/value is no less impressive -- because it isn't -- but rather that The Last Duel is a much more character-centric piece...and what a hell of a character-driven film it is. It's also one that's very much of the #MeToo era, but not so in a way that's overly preachy. In fact, it's a much more layered and mature approach to such an idea, especially in the way in which it frames the narrative and ultimately drives home its central theme of the value and importance of women, and some of the misguided ways in which men sometimes view them. The film adopts a very Rashomon-inspired story structure, focusing in on each of its three leads (Matt Damon, Adam Driver and Jodie Comer) and their individual and unique perspectives on the central event. It's an approach that ends up serving the movie incredibly well...even if it takes a while for it to start paying off. Because each "segment" of the film lasts at least 45 minutes or so, it's not until it got into the Adam Driver segment that the brilliance of the structure/approach began to dawn on me. The script by Matt Damon, Ben Affleck and Nicole Holofcener is also something to praise here in that regard, because it understands the purpose of such a storytelling style. One person can come off as noble and compassionate in one segment, and kind of callous and self-serving in the next. These shifting perspectives really enhance the story and color it, and the characters, in interesting shades. And the fact that the film also shows that the whole institution of the era was woefully ill-prepared to deal with the consequences of sexual violence adds an extra dramatic weight to the film. On top of that, it's also just immaculately-directed by Ridley Scott, who balances scope and intimacy here with all the skill of a true professional. I was honestly quite surprised by how caught up I was in The Last Duel, but it really is one of the best movies of the year.
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Post by thebtskink on Nov 24, 2021 16:03:01 GMT -5
Caught my first block on Twitter defending Ridley in the discourse to the screenshotted tweeter below.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Nov 24, 2021 16:58:11 GMT -5
"Let's erase the film about sexual abuse and misogyny because there are white people in it" is a hell of a take.
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Post by Doomsday on Dec 25, 2021 10:47:04 GMT -5
Got the 4K for Christmas, putting it at the top of my to-do list.
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Post by thebtskink on Jan 14, 2022 11:30:15 GMT -5
On HBOmax now in US
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