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Post by FShuttari on Nov 21, 2014 1:45:15 GMT -5
Mockingjay Part 1 - Review Thread
So it looks like were done with the games, and on to the revolution! Or Civil War? Whatever the point is... Shit is about to go down... In part 2.
If we have learned anything from famous franchise book to movies. It's that the last book has to be 2 movies. Which also means Part 1 will drag and Part 2 is where all the cool stuff will be.
Thankfully this is not entirely the case, but yes this movie is slow at parts, but it was very intriguing to me. The political aspect of the Rebellion (Mockingjay Army) vs. The Capital. Both parties are throwing their propaganda agenda videos at the people.
Here we see Katniss Everdeen Rise to power as she is the face of the Rebellion, on the other side we have Peeta who is the face of the Capital. The reality becomes for the lesser districts is that Katniss becomes the face of Hope and Capital is the evil empire. We get to see how far they are willing to go to stop the Rebellion, even if it means killing women and children, the wounded and sick. And yes even there own people.
I loved watching President Snow and all the schemes he had up his sleeves, and how those would play out against the Rebellion. One party would play a smear campaign and that means someone else has to come up with a retaliation against the smear campaign.
This took the "Hunger Games" storyline to another level, the games were always the distraction. The truth was Capital has always been evil and mechanical in controlling the people. As cool as all of that stuff is. You can tell all the good stuff is going to be in part 2.
Which brings the story to a complete hault. I wanted to see these 2 armies go at it but instead I felt this movie came to a complete stop when things were finally getting good.
It's hard to review this movie without seeing the complete story. So for now I will give this
8/10
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Post by Knerys on Nov 21, 2014 3:38:51 GMT -5
Guess I should watch the second soon...
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Post by FShuttari on Nov 21, 2014 10:39:14 GMT -5
Guess I should watch the second soon... Catching Fire is my favorite movie in the entire franchise so far...
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Post by daniel on Nov 23, 2014 18:16:12 GMT -5
Well, the Hunger Games are over, and the Revolution is here, sadly.
Everything I loved about Katniss, Peeta, Effie, and Haymitch is gone. Here, we have a movie spent mostly underground in a compound settling in for a takeover. Katniss is used as a pawn by a rather creepy uprising that seems to employ the same propaganda as the evil Capitol. Katniss is thrown into battle zones to bring out her emotions when it turns out she can't act to save her life, but the action is almost non-existent. One of the most climatic moments of the movie: a horrendous air raid, is seen entirely on radar. The last part should never have been split up into two parts - so little actually happened in this movie that it could, and should, have been entirely possible and beneficial to keep them together. Katniss literally fired 1 arrow from her quiver, so that should be a good indication of how much action happened in the film. In fact, you saw it - the part where she shoots the arrow at the flying ship and it explodes. You saw the whole action in that scene in the trailer.
There were two quick scenes of rebels blowing up a dam and then springing a trap in the woods, but I had no idea who these people were (aside from supposed random rebels), or any kind of exposition into their plans, just two very quick scenes of sabotage.
Additionally, the "twist" at the end was entirely predictable and spoon fed to an audience the director obviously regards as stupid. When Snow sneers and says "I told you what you love most will destroy you, REMEMBER I SAID THAT" then the team comes back and expresses complete shock no one would fire on them when they left, there was only one possible outcome that even a 12 year old could figure out.
Boring, choppy, messy, and really lacking much in the use of what has to be an extremely stout budget.
3/10
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Post by Neverending on Nov 23, 2014 21:27:26 GMT -5
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Post by Dracula on Nov 23, 2014 21:35:13 GMT -5
I'm not going to be bothering with this one, at least not in theaters.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 23, 2014 21:39:24 GMT -5
I'm not going to be bothering with this one, at least not in theaters. Wait for Part 2 and watch both back-to-back. That's what the rest of the CS'ers are doing.
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Post by Jibbs on Nov 23, 2014 22:33:49 GMT -5
My sister texted me on Friday and asked me to wait until she comes home next weekend to watch it. Otherwise I would have seen it.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Nov 24, 2014 2:28:50 GMT -5
Saw it this afternoon. It's definitely NOT a 3/10 (sorry, Daniel). In fact, and this might just be a result of my going in with lowered expectations due to the book, I was kind of surprised at how much I ended up liking it. Catching Fire is still the best so far book-wise and movie-wise (sorry, Dracula), but this film is nonetheless well-paced -- probably the best-paced of the films so far, actually -- strongly acted and pretty riveting for a movie that features very little action. And maybe, just MAYBE they knew what they were doing when they split it in two; I thought this could be done in one film, but seeing as how they barely cut anything from this first half and it STILL came in at just over 2 hours without end credits ... I'm OK with the split now. At least they ended it at the most natural point to do so.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 25, 2014 10:14:10 GMT -5
So have you guys heard of Thailand and how protesters are using the movie as a symbol? Kinda how we use the Guy Fawkes mask.
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Post by FShuttari on Nov 25, 2014 21:26:10 GMT -5
Didn't they ban the movies in those countries?
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Post by Dracula on Nov 25, 2014 22:38:41 GMT -5
Didn't they ban the movies in those countries? They banned the most recent one... but the bootleg market should take care of that.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Nov 28, 2014 2:16:07 GMT -5
This movie may as well have stolen the tagline from "Seinfeld" because absolutely nothing occurred in it. Jennifer Lawrence gets to sing, pout, and pump up the rebels as the same drama and politics we've already seen twice now takes up the entire length of the film. I couldn't believe it when the credits rolled, not only because of the terrible ending but also because two hours had gone by and I couldn't recount anything of real relevance having taken place. This is an ugly example of Lionsgate going for a total cash grab and making a movie into two parts when it wasn't necessary. The events of this film could've been handled in 25 minutes if they just slapped the "two" films together and it would've been a whole lot better. Everything is still there in terms of technical achievements and a solid cast, but it's essentially the actors just chewing scenery while events sort of happened in the background. The film is essentially a very boring retread of what we've already seen from the first two films, minus the hunger games at all. This isn't a horrible movie, but it is a very disappointing one. It's a movie that has all of its predecessors' flaws and none of the positives, and the whole production reeks of studio milk.
6/10
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Post by Jibbs on Nov 29, 2014 23:23:24 GMT -5
The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 1 (2014)
I think this movie is going to split the book readers from the movie watchers. The movies have been doing fine on their own, but now they're asking for those who haven't read them to accept half of the finale. Harry Potter lucked out with a strong, character-driven Part one and nobody cares about Twilight, but Mockingjay: Part One is loosely wrapped around trying to get Peeta back and it feels a little bit week. Those who have read the mediocre books know where things are going, so it just seems like a delay more than a cutoff. Despite this, the movie was more enjoyable than I thought it would be and had some good sequences and strong pacing. Also, Josh Hutcherson is proving himself surprisingly talented.
Perhaps the weakest of the three movies so far, but good. It'll be interesting to see how they handle the disaster that is the second half of the book.
***/****
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Post by FShuttari on Nov 29, 2014 23:45:56 GMT -5
Good review. Definitely the weakest in the series, but that was to be expected.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Nov 22, 2015 17:53:05 GMT -5
Only took me a year for a full review. :
I love the Harry Potter series with every fiber of my being. I know this is a review of The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 1, but go with me on this. If you asked me what's one thing from the Harry Potter franchise I ultimately sort of regret, it's the fact that the two-part adaptation of Deathly Hallows began a trend of every final installment of a young adult franchise since then being split into two separate films, whether they warrant it or not. The seventh Potter book deserved such a treatment, though. I've read The Hunger Games novels by Suzanne Collins, and I can safely say that the third book definitely did not call for it, ignoring that it wasn't nearly as good as the first two novels. So, naturally, one would assume that Mockingjay - Part 1 would be a lesser film than the first two installments, right? Well ... yes and no. Yes, it is indeed not as wow-worthy as Catching Fire or The Hunger Games, but no, that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad movie. In fact, it's pretty surprising it's ultimately as good as it is. Picking up nearly right after the cliffhanger conclusion of Catching Fire, Mockingjay - Part 1 finds Katniss Everdeen (Jennifer Lawrence) a broken shell of herself after being rescued from the Quarter Quell. Her rescuers are the citizens of District 13, an independent and militarized District long-thought destroyed, but has actually been thriving underground for years, waiting for the perfect opportunity to strike back against The Capitol. The leader of District 13 is President Alma Coin (Julianne Moore), who, together with Plutarch Heavensbee (Phillip Seymour Hoffman), orchestrated the events of the 75th Hunger Games to get Katniss out. Coin is intent on taking down The Capitol and removing President Snow (Donald Sutherland) from the equation, and she needs Katniss to help by being the face, or "mockingjay", of the rebellion that all of the other members of the Districts can rally behind. But all Katniss is concerned about at first is how District 13 abandoned Peeta (Josh Hutcherson) back in the Arena and left him at the mercy of The Capitol. And as events begin to unfold, it becomes clear that Snow has the same intentions for Peeta that District 13 has for Katniss: to use him to discourage any rumblings of war, but is Peeta doing it of his own volition?
If you've read my reviews of the first two Hunger Games films, then you'd know how much of a fan I am of this series. But even then, when I first went into Mockingjay - Part 1, it was with more than just a bit of trepidation, because the source material didn't exactly inspire a whole lot of confidence. Maybe those lowered expectations were a blessing in disguise, though, because this is honestly a pretty strong movie in its own right, even if it is noticeably only half a film. The thing I've always appreciated the most about this series is that, much like the last couple of Harry Potter movies, these filmmakers have always found the intimacy in these stories that take place in such a large world, and that certainly rings true for Mockingjay - Part 1. When looked at as a movie, and not simply the first half of a much larger movie, not a whole lot of any real, traditional interest happens here, but in terms of characters and mounting drama and atmosphere and emotion, there's actually quite a bit to latch onto. The Hunger Games franchise is also a really good example of a type of storytelling in film that I'm a really big fan of: the subtle, quiet, non-flashy type. In that respect, it's easy for me to see why so many have called this film mostly boring, but I find it fairly gripping in spite of the lack of action and whatnot. It just goes to show you should never undervalue the effect of sure-handed storytelling. As it always has been, a big component of what makes this material work is the acting. Not a whole lot of time needs to be sent singing the praises of leading lady Jennifer Lawrence -- because isn't that just a foregone conclusion by now? Suffice it to say, though, that she kills it yet again as Katniss. She communicates the character's frustration, uncertainty, fear, heartbreak and much more with the effortless skill of a seasoned veteran of the craft. As a result, we naturally feel her struggle just as much as if Katniss were a real person, making it clear that it's almost criminal how great at acting Jennifer Lawrence is. Josh Hutcherson has considerably less screentime this time around, but he nonetheless makes the most of what he's given. Hutcherson has to rely a lot on face/eye-acting in this one, and he pulls it off. Given what Peeta goes through in this film, he has to look broken and not quite right every time he's on-screen, and Hutcherson is able to make his performance subtle enough in those instances for it to work. Haymitch is also not around as much as in the first two, but just like Hutcherson, Woody Harrelson makes every minute count, proving further that Haymitch is without a doubt my favorite character in the series. Julianne Moore brings an interesting quality to the film as well, keeping in line with the subtlety that's required from nearly everybody in the cast. Our perception of Coin starts off one way, but in watching Moore's performance over the course of the film, it's interesting to see how her character gradually develops. Phillip Seymour Hoffman is of course great to watch, too, tragic circumstances involving him aside. He's given more to do here, and since this is Phillip Seymour Hoffman we're talking about, he nails every minute. On the opposite end of things is Liam Hemsworth, who just isn't nearly as talented as his brother, and the dialogue he's saddled with doesn't do him any favors, either.
Director Francis Lawrence continues to impress me with how he helms these films, especially considering that he never dazzled me all that much with any of his previous works before coming onto the franchise. He's proven here that he has a true talent for character-driven stuff and bringing out the intimacy and small moments that make everything tick. Lawrence also creates a real sense of confinement and claustrophobia in all the District 13-set scenes, and he instills the film with this mounting feeling of dread and danger that feels appropriate. One of my favorite scenes is one where Katniss simply starts singing a song called "The Hanging Tree", and it's because of Lawrence's direction and ability to capture that intimacy why it carries so much weight. The screenplay by Peter Craig and Danny Strong is really solid and fairly well-paced for the most part. There's a lot of political themes and ideas at play here, and the script's way of dealing with them is interesting and doesn't feel at all like a "young adult version."
There is one problem Mockingjay - Part 1 can't overcome, however, and it's that at the end of the day, this is still half a movie where maybe only a handful of significant things happen. By comparison, let's recall Deathly Hallows Part 1. That movie is half a story, too, but at least that one was also structured like a standalone film in its own right, with enough significant events throughout to justify its existence. To its credit, Mockingjay - Part 1 DOES build up to something -- an event in the plot that's effective enough as a climax, and also the natural splitting point -- but the problem is that while the film may be good and gripping (and never boring, in my personal opinion), it's adapting the half of the book where not much of anything happens. I can credit Francis Lawrence and the screenwriters for making the most of it and pacing everything reasonably well, but isolated on its own, Mockingjay - Part 1 is good but not as good as the first two. However, it IS better when watched in succession with the first two films. Take that for what you will, but the track record for the franchise still remains intact.
Isolated rating: ***/****
In succession with the first two rating: ***1/2 /****
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