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Post by 1godzillafan on Aug 28, 2020 17:10:34 GMT -5
Since this is obviously the most important movie of the year, here are my quick "I am not a critic" thoughts that I jotted down:
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Post by Jibbs on Aug 28, 2020 19:33:10 GMT -5
A bit uneven, but there are several very funny parts.
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Post by thebtskink on Aug 28, 2020 21:56:50 GMT -5
It dragged in spots, but goddamn did it make me grin. Some nice gut laughs, some heart, and it didnt betray the characters.
Given we're not getting many movies this year, it's a damn pleasure to have this back in my life.
I hope Ed Solomon and Chris Matheson get some more gigs off this. And Alex Winter was pretty great for a dude that hadn't acted in years.
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Post by Fanible on Aug 29, 2020 9:47:51 GMT -5
Definitely in the minority here it seems. I was more so worried my wife might not like it because she's not as much of a fan of the first two as I am, but we both ended up disappointed. I really wanted and was trying to get into it, and I actually did start off enjoying it. The opening wedding, playing off the Missy stuff from the first two movies was a clever run on that gag. I don't like how they just dismissed the second movie's ending by saying "Oh, you know how we accomplished that thing last time? Well it turns out we actually didn't, so we still need to do that". Just felt lazy, but I was still for the most part on board and willing to give it a chance. Unfortunately I thought it went downhill and just kept going down not too long after they started time traveling. I really did not like the daughters or any of that B story at all. Their Bill & Ted impressions was just miss after miss for me the entire film.
I kinda hated nearly the entirety of all the rehashing, but just remixing, the story elements of both the first and second films. It's something a sequel would normally have been expected to do off the first movie, but it didn't in the Bill & Ted franchise, which is one of the main reasons why the second was so great. Bogus Journey was such a bizarre left turn from Excellent Adventure creatively, but yet it worked somehow. This movie just literally combined both the first and second movies to make a sort of odd remake into one, but I found all the story beats to be worse versions of them. The historical figure recruiting wasn't nearly as entertaining, the afterlife sequences were shoehorned in and didn't follow any of the "rules", and the ending that they already did and achieved in the second movie I found no where near as fulfilling or triumphant.
Like said, it appears the wife and I are definitely in the minority, and it completely bums me out because I really wish I could have enjoyed it as much as so many others appear to have. Sadly I was mostly disappointed. A shame, too, because I thought Winters and Reeves were pretty great back in the shoes of Bill and Ted, but they were possibly the only part of the movie we enjoyed. I thought the story, on the other hand, fell mostly flat.
*I liked the music that they were making in the beginning better than the end song.
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 29, 2020 10:12:13 GMT -5
Did you guys see it in theaters or streaming?
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Post by 1godzillafan on Aug 29, 2020 10:23:23 GMT -5
Theaters for me. Definitely worth seeing in a room full of other Bill & Ted fans. The scene where Bill & Ted have a tearful goodbye with their older selves had the room doubled over in laughter.
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Post by donny on Aug 29, 2020 11:05:09 GMT -5
I'm going to hold out a little longer to see it in theaters, but currently it isn't playing in any of the ones near me, which is horse shit.
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Post by PG Cooper on Aug 29, 2020 13:27:11 GMT -5
It's definitely sloppy and looks kinda bad, but I laughed a lot. At its best the movie is hilarious and even touching.
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Post by Deexan on Aug 31, 2020 2:13:14 GMT -5
Be excellent to each other!
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 31, 2020 16:27:30 GMT -5
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Post by Doomsday on Sept 1, 2020 10:53:42 GMT -5
I'm leaning towards Fanible's side on this one which disappoints me. I really wish I liked this movie more than I did and while there are some laugh out loud parts it's also a rushed, uneven movie. The beginning got off to a good start and it was fun seeing Missy, Deacon and Bill's dad but things just went down from there. I think one thing they forgot was that the charm of Excellent Adventure was watching Bill and Ted interact with the historical characters then seeing them wreak havoc in the present day. Here they're just picked up and don't really do anything at all, they aren't a source of humor in any way. The movie finally picks up when they go back to hell and once again the Grim Reaper is the funniest character in the entire movie. Unfortunately we don't see him until there's about 30 minutes left and like everyone else he doesn't have much to do. And when I first saw the trailer I was really hoping that the movie wouldn't go down the very, very, very easy and obvious path of making their daughters the ones to write the song that saves reality but alas that's where they went, although there really wasn't much purpose to that either. At the end of the day though, it's hard for me not to do what I think everyone else is doing which is give it extra points for nostalgia and for being one of the few bright spots in a crummy, desolate year and it's nice that the message of the movie is bringing the world together which is fitting since we're in an era where people couldn't be more apart. B- so says Doomsday
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Post by Dracula on Dec 12, 2020 18:48:03 GMT -5
Bill and Ted Face the Music(12/7/2020) Making a third Bill and Ted movie nearly thirty years after the first one certainly seemed like a dumb idea on paper, so color me surprised that the film actually came out pretty good. The film finds the duo in their fifties and now married to the princesses and each have a daughter, but they have not written the music they were supposed to have written that would unite the world; in fact their music career seems to have largely flamed out. Then the universe starts to collapse in on itself in some vaguely defined rupture in the space-time continuum and Bill and Ted need to finally make the song they were destined to make in order to save the world. From there the movie ends up using elements of both the time travel from Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure and Bill and Ted’s Bogus Journey and they end up being surprisingly reverent to the timeline and universe rules established in those two silly little movies from the late 80s/early 90s. From there it just becomes a pleasant jaunt through some time travel shenanigans with some funny cameos and clever little twists that come together better than you expect them to and the film manages to modernize the franchises conventions pretty efficiently. If there’s anything about the film that doesn’t quite work it might be Bill and Ted themselves. These were of course always extremely broad characters but I feel like their mannerisms in the old movies were at least on some level supposed to be explained by the fact that they were dumb kids and having them behave exactly the same way as dudes in their 50s makes them look particularly strange, but the movie is at least aware of this and Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter do a lot to sell them through sheer enthusiasm. On some level I do think this might have made a little more sense if it had been made ten or fifteen years after the old movies instead of thirty years, but the movie does ultimately come together at the end to be a pretty damn likable final product so I can’t complain too much, and with the degree of difficulty that it took to make this thing come off as well as it did I must say I’m impressed. ***1/2 out of Five
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Post by thebtskink on Dec 24, 2020 9:07:28 GMT -5
Based on this tweet thread, I think Kid Cudi may have actually lobbied to be in the film as a fan. Pretty cool.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Dec 24, 2020 13:37:43 GMT -5
I recently went through all three of these movies for the first time, and my summation of them all: they're fine. The first is definitely one of those movies you need to see at the right time/age, though. None of them are bad, they function well for what they are, but their appeal to me is limited.
With Face the Music, though, I personally had a hard time buying that two fully grown men in their mid fifties who were married with one grown kid each would still be behaving like doofusy teenagers, but I get that it was part of the point. Still seemed weird to me, though.
The entire franchise I give a **1/2 /****
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Post by Neverending on Dec 24, 2020 13:56:31 GMT -5
bah humbug
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Post by PG Cooper on Dec 24, 2020 14:06:21 GMT -5
Any franchise that has an extended Seventh Seal parody as good as the one in Bogus Journey deserves better.
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Post by frankyt on Dec 24, 2020 19:26:03 GMT -5
This was better than expected. And yes pk I'm with you that these originals don't age well. I recently tried introducing the first two to the roomie after not having watched them in many years. She was confused and disinterested enough to completely give up after number 1. Andd I didn't push it too hard. I don't believe she's seen the seventh seal or knows who ingmar is (we're getting to it... Slow and steady).
But I liked this third one enough for 2020 it ain't too bad.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Dec 24, 2020 21:22:20 GMT -5
“Disinterested” is the best word to describe how I felt most of the time while watching each of the movies. I give credit to Bogus Journey, though, PG Cooper, for going so bonkers and dark and for William Sadler’s legitimately funny performance as Death.
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Post by scottysair on Dec 31, 2020 15:57:27 GMT -5
I watch Bill & Ted movie by last month. It's just okay. It was not too bad at all.
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