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Post by PhantomKnight on Aug 3, 2020 10:27:03 GMT -5
I'm very, very happy to report that Palm Springs is a new comedy that actually doesn't disappoint and is, in fact, funny. I know Andy Samberg has made a couple of movies that have gained cult status (Popstar is one such movie), but I haven't seen any of those and I've only seen bits and pieces of episodes of Brooklyn Nine-Nine. So, this was my first real experience with a Samberg-driven vehicle, and I gotta say, I was surprisingly impressed with the end result. The plot here is basically another riff on the Groundhog Day formula, set at a wedding in Palm Springs and concerning a time loop that sister of the bride Sarah (Cristin Millioti) gets caught in with Nyles (Samberg), a dude who's been trapped in the same time loop for quite a while now and has seemed to just accept his new normal. From there, the movie becomes a romantic comedy, but also a movie that goes surprisingly deep into the question of what it means to live a life without consequences, and the toll it can take on those who do. And that's really what bolsters this movie so well and helps it keep feeling fresh. Yes, we've seen countless time loop movies before, but not with two people in one. Especially for a comedy, that opens things up for a lot of really entertaining and funny shenanigans that take advantage of the potential. Palm Springs has a true infectious energy as a result and a vast majority of the jokes are genuinely laugh-out-loud funny. But the real kicker here is how charming and ultimately sympathetic Nyles and Sarah become as characters. Like I said, as the film goes on, it gets into the consequences living such a life can yield, and the movie takes the time to have the characters react in ways that feel genuine and touching. JK Simmons is in here as a supporting character and he and Samberg share a scene towards the end that really is sweet. I sure wasn't expecting this movie to take this approach, but it most certainly pays off. I can't necessarily call Palm Springs a great comedy -- but who knows what rewatches may yield -- but I can call it one that's a lot better than it had any right to be, one that's legitimately very funny while finding more than one way to take advantage of its premise. And in a movie year like 2020, it's instantly become a valuable commodity.
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Post by Dracula on Aug 3, 2020 10:30:17 GMT -5
Palm Springs(7/25/2020)
Warning: Review contains what could be considered spoilers.
I’ve gotten something like five months into the COVID-19 pandemic without cheating too much on my convictions of only giving full reviews to movies made for theaters but I’ve been slowly chipping away at that standard and don’t know what to think about that. I first made an exception for Bacurau because it did play in NY/LA and had a planned expansion and ultimately played on a service which gave money to theaters. Then I made an exception for Spike Lee’s Da 5 Blood, which never officially played in a theater anywhere but I suspect it would have if the world wasn’t mired in shit and, frankly, it’s a Spike Lee movie and I wasn’t missing out on a major release from that guy. The latest movie I’m twisting my rules for is the Andy Samberg starring comedy Palm Springs, a movie that isn’t from a major auteur like Spike Lee and which isn’t being released in a way that’s meant to benefit any theaters. So what’s my excuse this time? Well, there was intended to be a theatrical release from the movie. When it was picked up at Sundance for a record setting $17.5 million and sixty nine cents (nice) it was meant to be a joint release by Neon (who would handle the theatrical end) and Hulu (who would hold streaming rights afterwards) and that is exactly the kind of release schedule I would like to encourage in the industry, but of course that theatrical release was derailed by COVID (though I have been told it did play in some drive-ins, not near me though) and for my purposes it was released straight to Hulu, which is where I saw it.
Palm Springs is a movie that almost impossible to describe efficiently without invoking the movie Groundhog Day as it is another movie that uses that film’s high concept. It’s about someone named Nyles (Andy Samberg) who is living the same day over and over again, but the twist is that the film starts long after he’s already been living this day over and over again: he wakes up with his not terribly bright girlfriend Misty (Meredith Hagner) in the Palm Springs home they are staying in for purposes of attending a fairly mundane wedding that evening where Misty will be the Bridesmaid. We don’t immediately know about the time-loop thing until late in the evening when Nyles starts hitting on the bride’s sister Sarah (Cristin Milioti) only to suddenly and inexplicably be attacked by a nutty guy named Roy (J. K. Simmons) and tries to escape by crawling into a glowing cave nearby and warns Sarah not to follow him but she does anyway and suddenly wakes up the previous morning and is now living in the same single day time loop that Nyles has been stuck in and comes to learn that that Roy guy has also been stuck in it. From there we go into an exploration of a life without consequences and what it would be like to share that kind of life with other people.
I was pretty skeptical going into Palm Springs in large part because this whole “time loop” concept has kind of been done to death, especially as of late, and I’d generally like Hollywood to give it a rest. It’s been applied to action movies (Source Code, Edge of Tomorrow), horror movies (Happy Death Day), video games (Outer Wilds), tons of one off TV episodes and the idea of applying it to a comedy seems particularly blasphemous considering that the movie that kicked this whole trend off was itself a comedy: Groundhog’s Day. However, I do think the film was ultimately able to overcome my doubts, in part because having more than one person in on the time loop does shake things up a little and in part because Andy Samberg just generally has a different, younger, and more R-rated sense of humor than Bill Murray does. Samberg is an actor who has always intrigued me going back to his early days on “Saturday Night Live.” He had kind of a fratty aura, but always seemed to manage to stay on the right side of cringey, even when he was charting such perilous waters as his highly Caucasian comedy rapping with The Lonely Island. He’s also managed to age up his comedic persona pretty well on his sitcom “Brooklyn Nine-Nine.” The one thing he hasn’t really managed is a successful movie career. He made two movies with his Lonely Island compatriots (Hot Rod and Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping) which have cult followings but which bombed at the box office. Those movies were both broad comedies in which he were maybe leaning to hard into that fratty side of his persona. Making a semi-indie comedy like this was probably a smart move for him as his usual persona fits well into the slightly immature character without going too far with it.
There are definitely some nits for me to pick about some of the time loop logic here including a couple things that could definitely be called plot holes… like why Nyles felt the need to crawl into the cave at the beginning and in doing so leading Sarah into his hell. However the film’s fun with its high concept that ultimately proves to be its biggest asset. I wouldn’t say its comedic elements alone really made the movie, in fact I didn’t laugh out loud at it all that often though that’s almost something that’s inherent in watching something like this at home rather than with a raucous crowd at a movie theater. Instead I mostly found myself fascinated with watching this dude go through his predicament in a sort of state of detached acceptance until he doesn’t. That combined with his dynamic with Cristin Milioti make the movie work and keeps you interested for the whole movie. I do wonder how I would have responded to this in a more normal film year but in this year where we have to fight for whatever scraps come to streaming I found this to be a real breath of fresh air that I’ve enjoyed a more than I have a new movie in months.
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Post by frankyt on Aug 3, 2020 12:02:33 GMT -5
I liked it. Strong first half, kinda meh finisher but most stories about repeating the same day over and over seem to lose steam after an hour let's say.
Certainly worth watching as a new movie though. Would have prob saw it in theaters all things considered.
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Post by donny on Aug 3, 2020 13:18:13 GMT -5
Yeah, i liked it for the most part. I'm a fan of Samberg's. While this is no Popstar, it's still really good and a nice, fresh take on the time loop idea.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Aug 3, 2020 14:16:06 GMT -5
I just realized I made a typo on the poll. I mean...if anybody wants to give this a 54/10, go right ahead.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Aug 3, 2020 14:23:22 GMT -5
I just realized I made a typo on the poll. I mean...if anybody wants to give this a 54/10, go right ahead.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Aug 3, 2020 14:27:23 GMT -5
I just realized I made a typo on the poll. I mean...if anybody wants to give this a 54/10, go right ahead. I knew it'd be you.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 3, 2020 14:41:11 GMT -5
You must be starved for new movies.
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Post by Dracula on Aug 3, 2020 14:53:26 GMT -5
You must be starved for new movies. Famished Yes, this would be another example of something that was likely not a profitable acquisition, especially since they have no access to theater revenue and since it likely won't, like, cause a surge of Hulu subscriptions.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 3, 2020 14:57:14 GMT -5
it likely won't, like, cause a surge of Hulu subscriptions. Hulu, unlike Netflix, has ads. If the viewership is strong, which I think it is, they likely had a higher ad rate.
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Post by Dracula on Aug 3, 2020 15:10:37 GMT -5
it likely won't, like, cause a surge of Hulu subscriptions. Hulu, unlike Netflix, has ads. If the viewership is strong, which I think it is, they likely had a higher ad rate. People still watch Hulu with ads? What broke motherfucker isn't going to just pay the extra $4 not to deal with that? Even when Hulu was entirely ad supported it was just the same two ads over and over again, no way they make serious revenue off of that.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 3, 2020 15:14:59 GMT -5
People still watch Hulu with ads? What broke motherfucker isn't going to just pay the extra $4 not to deal with that? Even when Hulu was entirely ad supported it was just the same two ads over and over again, no way they make serious revenue off of that. Regardless... if the movie does well, it keeps people subscribed. I'm sure Disney didn't "make money" from Hamilton and Beyonce's Lion King thing but it kept people subscribed for two extra months.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Aug 3, 2020 15:17:36 GMT -5
You must be starved for new movies. Famished This will all come to a swift end once all embrace Ouija Shark as their lord and savior.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Aug 3, 2020 15:18:45 GMT -5
People still watch Hulu with ads? What broke motherfucker isn't going to just pay the extra $4 not to deal with that? That would be me
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Post by daniel on Sept 4, 2020 7:39:40 GMT -5
Hulu, unlike Netflix, has ads. If the viewership is strong, which I think it is, they likely had a higher ad rate. People still watch Hulu with ads? What broke motherfucker isn't going to just pay the extra $4 not to deal with that? Even when Hulu was entirely ad supported it was just the same two ads over and over again, no way they make serious revenue off of that. lol, me. I get Hulu free with my Spotify premium subscription and I intend to keep it that way.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Sept 4, 2020 15:32:17 GMT -5
I personally see it the opposite of Dracula. I don't see the point of paying four dollars for no ads. Personally I'd rather watch ads so I can have four dollars.
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Post by thebtskink on Sept 4, 2020 15:39:55 GMT -5
Yeah that 4 bucks goes to subsidize other stuff I like.
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Post by Dracula on Sept 4, 2020 15:45:14 GMT -5
I personally see it the opposite of Dracula . I don't see the point of paying four dollars for no ads. Personally I'd rather watch ads so I can have four dollars. Four dollars is the price of a cup of coffee at Starbucks. For that small amount you can watch The Handmaid's Tale without having to hear about Geico every ten minutes. Now, if they were offering the service for free with ads that would be different but if I'm going to pay these bastards anything I don't want them trying to sell me insurance while I'm watching.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Sept 4, 2020 16:00:40 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm on the Hulu No-Ads plan and have no reservations about it whatsoever. That's how I'm subscribed to HBO, Cinemax and Showtime as well, so my monthly fee isn't impacted terribly over that extra $4. Because of those add-ons, I typically use Hulu a lot more than Netflix.
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Post by thebtskink on Sept 4, 2020 16:02:29 GMT -5
I guess getting Hulu with Ads with the Spotify Premium subscription is an additional thing coloring it for me. If I weren't already getting Spotify premium I might have gone for Hulu premium.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Sept 4, 2020 16:20:23 GMT -5
I'm not hearing any reasons that matter to me as to why I should part with four dollars. I earned that four dollars, I'm keeping it if I don't have to spend it.
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Post by Dracula on Sept 4, 2020 16:42:17 GMT -5
I'm not hearing any reasons that matter to me as to why I should part with four dollars. I earned that four dollars, I'm keeping it if I don't have to spend it. Well if you watch those ads they may deceptively find ways to make you waste your four dollars on some bullshit, so paying for ad-free is like an investment preventing you from wasting even more in the future.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Sept 4, 2020 16:52:46 GMT -5
I'm not hearing any reasons that matter to me as to why I should part with four dollars. I earned that four dollars, I'm keeping it if I don't have to spend it. Well if you watch those ads they may deceptively find ways to make you waste your four dollars on some bullshit, so paying for ad-free is like an investment preventing you from wasting even more in the future. I can't remember the last time I actually spent money on something I saw in an ad. Maybe a movie, but I probably was going to spend money on that anyway. Ads are funny and sometimes amusingly perplexing to me, as advertisers try to sell me strange products that I don't understand in ways that are often very silly. Like that recent Google ad series I see on YouTube with some dude doing comedy bits with himself. Just strange weirdness. It doesn't particularly make me want to use Google, but I was already using Google before those ads. I sometimes get more amusement out of them than the show I'm watching. Chances are I'm more likely to spend my money randomly passing Ouija Shark 2 while shopping. Or like Doomsday would prefer, that Left Behind trilogy set I saw today.
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