thebtskink
CS! Silver
Join Date: Jul 2000
It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.
Posts: 19,462 
Likes: 4,984
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 15:43:24 GMT -5
|
Post by thebtskink on Jul 6, 2020 22:30:04 GMT -5
Director: Robert Zemeckis Written by Eric Roth, based on the novel by Winston Groom Starring: Tom Hanks, Robin Wright Genre: Drama, Romance
#71 on 1998's AFI Top 100
Slow-witted Forrest Gump (Tom Hanks) has never thought of himself as disadvantaged, and thanks to his supportive mother (Sally Field), he leads anything but a restricted life. Whether dominating on the gridiron as a college football star, fighting in Vietnam or captaining a shrimp boat, Forrest inspires people with his childlike optimism. But one person Forrest cares about most may be the most difficult to save -- his childhood love, the sweet but troubled Jenny (Robin Wright).
Director: M. Night Shyamalan Written by M. Night Shyamalan Starring: Bruce Willis, Haley Joel Osmont Genre: Drama, Mystery, Thriller
Too recent for the 2008 AFI list
Young Cole Sear (Haley Joel Osment) is haunted by a dark secret: he is visited by ghosts. Cole is frightened by visitations from those with unresolved problems who appear from the shadows. He is too afraid to tell anyone about his anguish, except child psychologist Dr. Malcolm Crowe (Bruce Willis). As Dr. Crowe tries to uncover the truth about Cole's supernatural abilities, the consequences for client and therapist are a jolt that awakens them both to something unexplainable.
My votes: Forrest Gump: Cut. I think Zemeckis deserves a spot on the list for BTTF or Roger Rabbit, but not this. Cutesy boomer nostalgia only gets you so far, and the movie takes away whatever bite the novel has. Sixth Sense: Cut. While fun, and i think underservedly crapped on, I just don't think this in the Top 100 American Films of all time. Add 12 more years since it's last placement on the list and there's even more films we could fit in. |
|
Neverending
CS! Platinum
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 65,773
Likes: 8,647
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 18:30:10 GMT -5
|
Post by Neverending on Jul 6, 2020 22:35:43 GMT -5
lol. Cut both.
|
|
1godzillafan
Studio Head
Join Date: Feb 2017
I like pie!
Posts: 9,480
Likes: 6,217
Location:
Last Online Nov 8, 2024 5:42:00 GMT -5
|
Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 6, 2020 22:42:07 GMT -5
|
|
Doomsday
Administrator 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 23,298
Likes: 6,764
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 18:28:15 GMT -5
|
Post by Doomsday on Jul 6, 2020 22:46:36 GMT -5
Yup, cut both.
|
|
Dracula
CS! Gold
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 26,101
Likes: 5,731
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 18:43:33 GMT -5
|
Post by Dracula on Jul 6, 2020 22:47:47 GMT -5
For the love of god, cut and cut. If we can't get this bullshit off the list we should probably just give up now.
|
|
PhantomKnight
CS! Gold
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 20,527
Likes: 3,130
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 0:32:12 GMT -5
|
Post by PhantomKnight on Jul 6, 2020 22:48:08 GMT -5
Keep both, motherfuckers.
|
|
SnoBorderZero
CS! Silver
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 17,622
Likes: 3,182
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 17:30:40 GMT -5
|
Post by SnoBorderZero on Jul 6, 2020 22:55:43 GMT -5
Forrest Gump: Cut
Forrest Gump is an easy film to pick on, and while some of its elements are certainly pandering and hokey I'd be lying if I didn't admit that I do like the film overall, granted I haven't actually watched it in over a decade. Hanks is wonderful in the title role and it's easy to get swept up in our omnipresent narrator hopping from one event of American history to another. But, this is a list of the top 100 greatest American films of all time, and there's absolutely no way this movie deserves to be there.
The Sixth Sense: Cut
Even if we attempt to not judge this movie retrospectively on M. Night Shyamalan's stunning plummet from this movie that only gets worse and worse (not to mention he's an arrogant douche) with each film, The Sixth Sense is one of those head-scratchers as to how it even made the AFI list in the first place. Yes, the twist is a jaw-dropping one that is always mentioned among the greatest of all time. Yes, Osment and Willis give solid performances and the movie is a fun viewing. But aside from the twist ending, The Sixth Sense is just a solid film that doesn't even stand close to measuring up with ultimate in American horror. The Sixth Sense over Halloween, Rosemary's Baby, Night of the Living Dead? It's insulting really.
|
|
1godzillafan
Studio Head
Join Date: Feb 2017
I like pie!
Posts: 9,480
Likes: 6,217
Location:
Last Online Nov 8, 2024 5:42:00 GMT -5
|
Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 6, 2020 23:17:10 GMT -5
Keep both, motherfuckers. Phanty is taking my spot this round. I like Forrest Gump. I wouldn't list it under my favorite movies, most remembered movies, or even movies from 1994 that I still give a rats ass about, but I like it. The Sixth Sense is bleh. |
|
IanTheCool
CS! Gold
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 21,493
Likes: 2,864
Location:
Member is Online
|
Post by IanTheCool on Jul 6, 2020 23:29:07 GMT -5
There's certainly been a Forrest Gump hating bandwagon lately that I've never understood. That said... top 100 is a bit much. So I think we can get rid of it.
And Sixth Sense again is a film that's gotten a lot of backlash, undeserved in my opinion. I think 6th sense is fantastic. But I do NOT understand how its on the list and The Exorcist is not. So I'm okay losing this one too.
|
|
Neverending
CS! Platinum
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 65,773
Likes: 8,647
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 18:30:10 GMT -5
|
Post by Neverending on Jul 6, 2020 23:46:16 GMT -5
I think 6th sense is fantastic. But I do NOT understand how its on the list and The Exorcist is not. Because one is a thriller and the other is a horror film. It’s why Silence of the Lambs can win Best Pictures at the Oscars but Prom Night II: Hello Mary Lou won’t even get a shoutout for its food catering. |
|
1godzillafan
Studio Head
Join Date: Feb 2017
I like pie!
Posts: 9,480
Likes: 6,217
Location:
Last Online Nov 8, 2024 5:42:00 GMT -5
|
Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 6, 2020 23:49:07 GMT -5
I think 6th sense is fantastic. But I do NOT understand how its on the list and The Exorcist is not. Because one is a thriller and the other is a horror film. It’s why Silence of the Lambs can win Best Pictures at the Oscars but Prom Night II: Hello Mary Lou won’t even get a shoutout for its food catering. Prom Night II was on The Last Drive-In with Joe Bob Briggs and Silence of the Lambs was not, so in the end Mary Lou got the last laugh. |
|
PhantomKnight
CS! Gold
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 20,527
Likes: 3,130
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 0:32:12 GMT -5
|
Post by PhantomKnight on Jul 7, 2020 0:14:27 GMT -5
Since Forrest Gump is clearly not making the list, I'm taking that as a personal offense.
|
|
1godzillafan
Studio Head
Join Date: Feb 2017
I like pie!
Posts: 9,480
Likes: 6,217
Location:
Last Online Nov 8, 2024 5:42:00 GMT -5
|
Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 7, 2020 0:35:39 GMT -5
You can make up for it by assuring that Hello Mary Lou: Prom Night II takes its place.
|
|
PhantomKnight
CS! Gold
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 20,527
Likes: 3,130
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 0:32:12 GMT -5
|
Post by PhantomKnight on Jul 7, 2020 1:09:43 GMT -5
I'm thisclose to going all Heath Ledger Joker up in this bitch.
Sixth Sense, fine, take it. I still love it, though. Forrest Gump, however...I could get as personal and open as I've ever been on here in discussing why it means so much to me if I wanted to. It seriously depresses me a little that it has such the backlash that it does today. It's Top 100 material for goddamn sure if you ask me.
|
|
1godzillafan
Studio Head
Join Date: Feb 2017
I like pie!
Posts: 9,480
Likes: 6,217
Location:
Last Online Nov 8, 2024 5:42:00 GMT -5
|
Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 7, 2020 1:29:11 GMT -5
I feel the same way about It Happened One Night.
|
|
SnoBorderZero
CS! Silver
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 17,622
Likes: 3,182
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 17:30:40 GMT -5
|
Post by SnoBorderZero on Jul 7, 2020 1:53:02 GMT -5
There's certainly been a Forrest Gump hating bandwagon lately that I've never understood. That said... top 100 is a bit much. So I think we can get rid of it. And Sixth Sense again is a film that's gotten a lot of backlash, undeserved in my opinion. I think 6th sense is fantastic. But I do NOT understand how its on the list and The Exorcist is not. So I'm okay losing this one too. Exactly. Both of these films are easy targets for a lot of people, but I think they're both good films. Again, I haven't seen either of them in a long, long time and my opinion might slightly sour but I feel they're both shitted on unfairly. Top 100 films? Absolutely fucking not. But good entertainment and good films overall? In my book, yeah. And wow, I just realized that The Exorcist is not on the list. AFI really shit the bed when it comes to horror. Alien? The Shining? To choose The Silence of the Lambs is fine, but The Sixth Sense over all the other obvious choices? What the fuck! |
|
thebtskink
CS! Silver
Join Date: Jul 2000
It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.
Posts: 19,462
Likes: 4,984
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 15:43:24 GMT -5
|
Post by thebtskink on Jul 7, 2020 4:44:35 GMT -5
There's certainly been a Forrest Gump hating bandwagon lately that I've never understood. That said... top 100 is a bit much. So I think we can get rid of it. And Sixth Sense again is a film that's gotten a lot of backlash, undeserved in my opinion. I think 6th sense is fantastic. But I do NOT understand how its on the list and The Exorcist is not. So I'm okay losing this one too. Exactly. Both of these films are easy targets for a lot of people, but I think they're both good films. Again, I haven't seen either of them in a long, long time and my opinion might slightly sour but I feel they're both shitted on unfairly. Top 100 films? Absolutely fucking not. But good entertainment and good films overall? In my book, yeah. And wow, I just realized that The Exorcist is not on the list. AFI really shit the bed when it comes to horror. Alien? The Shining? To choose The Silence of the Lambs is fine, but The Sixth Sense over all the other obvious choices? What the fuck! As I've went through the movies, I've been trying to add stats on decade, genre, star, writers, and actors. About 30 films in, but I'll provide that at some point. Horror and comedy are both underrepresented from what I can see so far. A nomination round is coming shortly though. |
|
thebtskink
CS! Silver
Join Date: Jul 2000
It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.
Posts: 19,462
Likes: 4,984
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 15:43:24 GMT -5
|
Post by thebtskink on Jul 7, 2020 6:15:20 GMT -5
Alright, in the interest of furthering the discussion i'm ending the charade on this one. Both are cut 7-1
|
|
thebtskink
CS! Silver
Join Date: Jul 2000
It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.
Posts: 19,462
Likes: 4,984
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 15:43:24 GMT -5
|
Post by thebtskink on Jul 7, 2020 6:49:28 GMT -5
This set brought to you by randomizationDirected by D.W. Griffith Written by D.W. Griffith Starring: Lillian Gish, Robert Haron Genre: Drama, History
Does not appear on 1998's AFI Top 100
D.W. Griffith's epic intercuts between four separate stories about man's inhumanity to man. In Babylon, pacifist Prince Belshazzar is brought down by warring religious factions. In Judea, the last days of Christ (Howard Gaye) are depicted in the style of a Passion play. In France, Catherine de Medici presides over the slaughter of the Huguenots. And in California, a woman (Mae Marsh) pleads for the life of her husband (Robert Harron) when he is sentenced to hang for a murder he did not commit.
Director: Ridley Scott Written by Hampton Fancher, David Peoples, based on the novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? by Philip K. Dick Starring: Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer, Sean Young Genre: Action, Sci-Fi, Thriller
Does not appear on the 2008 AFI list
Deckard (Harrison Ford) is forced by the police Boss (M. Emmet Walsh) to continue his old job as Replicant Hunter. His assignment: eliminate four escaped Replicants from the colonies who have returned to Earth. Before starting the job, Deckard goes to the Tyrell Corporation and he meets Rachel (Sean Young), a Replicant girl he falls in love with.
My votes: Intolerance: I'm going to hold off voting for now. see notes below. Blade Runner: Keep. The world-building is so precise, and the visuals are so influential I don't see how you can't keep this.
----------------------------------------------------
Administrative notes:
1) Do people need a few days to watch Intolerance? It's free on Amazon Prime though it's a 2 hr version instead of the full 3hr 17 min version. There is a 2hr 57 minute version with no soundtrack on the Internet Archive, and 2hr 46minute version with sound on Youtube as well, and even a version on Tubi split into two parts. I don't think any of the sound versions are the original soundtrack given they all are different scores.
2) I was planning on a nomination round after this one, but can hold for another 5 sets if people would like that option more. The plan was if we had 2 or more vacancies, each user nominates 1 or 2 movies for consideration, and we vote in the top two.
|
|
Dracula
CS! Gold
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 26,101
Likes: 5,731
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 18:43:33 GMT -5
|
Post by Dracula on Jul 7, 2020 6:58:55 GMT -5
Keep and Keep
|
|
donny
CS! Bronze
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 10,631
Likes: 1,332
Location:
Last Online Nov 21, 2024 23:07:04 GMT -5
|
Post by donny on Jul 7, 2020 8:00:23 GMT -5
Intolerance- Need to see, no vote at this time.
Blade Runner- 100% keep
|
|
frankyt
CS! Gold
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 21,945
Likes: 2,015
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 15:18:18 GMT -5
|
Post by frankyt on Jul 7, 2020 8:49:33 GMT -5
For nomination will it just be a buncha random movies or will it be focused on a genre?
Only have seen br but boot it and replace it with the final cut.
|
|
thebtskink
CS! Silver
Join Date: Jul 2000
It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.
Posts: 19,462
Likes: 4,984
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 15:43:24 GMT -5
|
Post by thebtskink on Jul 7, 2020 8:59:54 GMT -5
For nomination will it just be a buncha random movies or will it be focused on a genre? Only have seen br but boot it and replace it with the final cut. People could nominate whatever they choose. Only things I was going to fluctuate were movies one can nominate, and the number we'd let in at once. I thought I'd save some vacancies for more nominations at the end as the list takes shape. I'm open to the frequency of the nomination rounds, but wanted to sprinkle them throughout. |
|
PG Cooper
CS! Silver
Join Date: Feb 2009
And those who tasted the bite of his sword named him...The DOOM Slayer
Posts: 16,647
Likes: 4,062
Location:
Member is Online
|
Post by PG Cooper on Jul 7, 2020 9:13:15 GMT -5
Cut Intolerance, keep Blade Runner.
|
|
IanTheCool
CS! Gold
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 21,493
Likes: 2,864
Location:
Member is Online
|
Post by IanTheCool on Jul 7, 2020 9:39:14 GMT -5
See here is a different scenario: two films that ultimately don't mean much to me, but whose importance I recognize.
That said, with Intolerance... I think adding it was reactionary to not wanting Birth of a Nation on. So I'm kind torn. Blade Runner can stay though.
|
|
