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Post by Neverending on Feb 28, 2020 16:04:12 GMT -5
I saw the twist a mile away, and there’s dumb moments that are difficult to excuse, but overall it’s alright.
50-75% of the movie is a psychological drama. Elizabeth Moss plays the battered ex-gf of the Invisible Man. It’s an intriguing premise, and timely I guess, but the ending is pure schlock. It’s not Hollow Man level of schlock but it’s in the neighborhood.
Whether you enjoy the movie or not, and at which level you do, will depend entirely on what you wanted to get out of this movie. We can all agree on the plot (i presume) but I can see the execution being divisive.
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Post by Doomsday on Feb 28, 2020 16:11:53 GMT -5
I just want to watch a movie with a strong male lead.
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Post by Deexan on Feb 28, 2020 16:59:05 GMT -5
Are there boobs??
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Post by Neverending on Feb 28, 2020 17:01:35 GMT -5
Nope. The shower scene from all the promos isn’t in the movie.
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Post by Deexan on Feb 28, 2020 17:01:58 GMT -5
Fuck this shit.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Feb 28, 2020 17:25:05 GMT -5
This movie is balls because it doesn't have this...
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Post by Doomsday on Feb 28, 2020 18:09:44 GMT -5
This movie is balls because it doesn't have this... Frankenstein/Bride of Frankenstein are at the top of my Universal horror movies list but Invisible Man is close behind.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Feb 28, 2020 18:27:00 GMT -5
This movie is balls because it doesn't have this... Frankenstein/Bride of Frankenstein are at the top of my Universal horror movies list but Invisible Man is close behind. Love them James Whale flicks. Old Dark House is pretty good too.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 29, 2020 18:29:25 GMT -5
I kind of fucking loved this. The suspense -- and Elisabeth Moss -- is off-the-charts good in this. An excellent horror/suspense thriller, but also an effective picture of the aftereffects of an abusive relationship.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 29, 2020 19:54:02 GMT -5
I kind of fucking loved this. The suspense -- and Elisabeth Moss -- is off-the-charts good in this. An excellent horror/suspense thriller, but also an effective picture of the aftereffects of an abusive relationship. Had to be Phantomknight.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 29, 2020 20:10:01 GMT -5
I kind of fucking loved this. The suspense -- and Elisabeth Moss -- is off-the-charts good in this. An excellent horror/suspense thriller, but also an effective picture of the aftereffects of an abusive relationship. Had to be Phantomknight. I DO have an image to maintain.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Feb 29, 2020 20:23:57 GMT -5
The Invisible Man has no image to maintain.
Oh yeah. I have no shame.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 29, 2020 20:28:41 GMT -5
The Invisible Man has no image to maintain. But you do, too. As you just proved.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Feb 29, 2020 20:41:39 GMT -5
The Invisible Man has no image to maintain. But you do, too. As you just proved. I don't maintain my image, it just falls into place and I'm just along for the ride.
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Post by daniel on Feb 29, 2020 22:23:09 GMT -5
I found myself pleasantly surprised by this. Despite trailers abound showing much of the movie, they really left enough out that this held an extremely high degree of suspense. The director did something remarkable here by making us scared of what we couldn't see, and they used the camera to build the tension left and right.
Elizabeth Moss was outstanding, and I was thrilled to see Aldis Hodge putting in a great performance.
Yes, there are jump scares, the kind that got my theater audience to curse outloud, not gimmicky at all - the director earned his moments of terror.
The unraveling of the psychological terror is extreme here, and I was pleasantly shocked by some things that occurred. It was great that the movie got right into the terror from the first frame, and it didn't let up along the way.
I loved it, loved it, and I left the theater gushing about it to my date, exclaiming I really want to see it again.
90% on Rotten Tomatoes as well.
Go see this.
8/10 (GREAT movie)
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Post by Neverending on Mar 1, 2020 0:24:22 GMT -5
I found myself pleasantly surprised by this. Despite trailers abound showing much of the movie, they really left enough out that this held an extremely high degree of suspense. The director did something remarkable here by making us scared of what we couldn't see, and they used the camera to build the tension left and right. Elizabeth Moss was outstanding, and I was thrilled to see Aldis Hodge putting in a great performance. Yes, there are jump scares, the kind that got my theater audience to curse outloud, not gimmicky at all - the director earned his moments of terror. The unraveling of the psychological terror is extreme here, and I was pleasantly shocked by some things that occurred. It was great that the movie got right into the terror from the first frame, and it didn't let up along the way. I loved it, loved it, and I left the theater gushing about it to my date, exclaiming I really want to see it again. 90% on Rotten Tomatoes as well. Go see this. 8/10 (GREAT movie)Damn.
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 1, 2020 1:21:35 GMT -5
Frankenstein/Bride of Frankenstein are at the top of my Universal horror movies list but Invisible Man is close behind. Love them James Whale flicks. Old Dark House is pretty good too. It's been on my Criterion Channel list for months. I'll crank through it one day, some day.
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Post by Pbar on Mar 2, 2020 12:36:21 GMT -5
To Ari Aster, the directors of THE LODGE, and all other wannabe horror filmmakers...
THIS! IS! HOW! YOU! DO! IT!!!!!
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Post by PG Cooper on Mar 2, 2020 16:24:13 GMT -5
Love them James Whale flicks. Old Dark House is pretty good too. It's been on my Criterion Channel list for months. I'll crank through it one day, some day. It expires at the end of March.
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Post by frankyt on Mar 3, 2020 9:13:41 GMT -5
Crowd pleaser. Solid tension, enjoyed the movie. Some silly aspects at times but overall I'd day check it out.
6/10
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 7, 2020 13:51:25 GMT -5
Love them James Whale flicks. Old Dark House is pretty good too. It expires at the end of March. I watched This Old Dark House. The big problem is that there's no central point of conflict, it's people sitting in a house and little by little they see something odd and it ultimately doesn't build to much. It feels like a weird effort considering it sits between Whale's Frankenstein and Invisible Man, two horror titans. The Universal horror movies all focus on a character, dark and often sympathetic, but there's no characterization even among the supporting cast. I wasn't too crazy about it not only because it wasn't that good but also because it was released in a time when the genre and even the filmmaker and cast were producing classic, timeless horror films. I'm glad I was able to watch it though.
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Post by Dracula on Mar 20, 2020 19:55:06 GMT -5
Wrote one of my weird hybrid reviews of The Invisible Man and The Lodge. Seemed like a good idea before I knew theaters would be shut down. Just going to post it in both movies' threads. Sorry for the mess.
The Lodge(2/20/2020)/The Invisible Man(2/27/2020)
Horror has almost always run in trends whether it’s the slasher movies of the 80s, the post-modern slashers of the 90s, or the torture porn of the 2000s. Mini-trends would exist alongside these larger macro-trends and there would of course always be one-offs that exist outside the bigger waves, but generally speaking it wasn’t too hard to spot what’s been in vogue with the genre. For much of the time I’ve been reviewing films the most dominant trend was haunted house movies with lots of jump scares, not a trend I welcomed, and while I’m sure some of those movies are still being made things do seem to finally be moving on but what are they moving on to? Well there seem to be two tends that may be contenders for the title of “next big thing.” Within my personal viewing patterns the most noteworthy trend is almost certainly the emergence of indie horror films like The Witch and Midsommar from studios like A24, which perhaps represent a sensibility more than a specific sub-genre of film. None of these have been bona fide blockbusters but amongst those who know they loom large and I can only assume that they continue to penetrate the culture after release and that they may well become bigger with time. The next trend, the one that is likely in the lead if we’re going to view this as a race, is to make horror movies in the mold of Get Out that tackle social issues in a very direct way that more or less make subtext text. So if these two trends are going to the shape of horror to come it makes sense to take a look at the first two movies of the year that are seeking to represent each trend: the indie horror film The Lodge and the social issue tackling The Invisible Man.
Like a lot of elevated horror movies, The Lodge opens with a major moment of trauma as a woman leaves her kids with their father, who tells her the time has come to formalize her divorce. She then goes home and shoots herself. We pick up shortly thereafter as the father (Richard Armitage) is trying to blend his new girlfriend Grace (Riley Keough) in with his teenage son Aiden (Jaeden Martell) and tween daughter Mia (Lia McHugh) and decides that the best way to do this is to have the whole blended family go to a lodge for Christmas, which Aiden and Mia are strongly resistant to partly because they blame Grace for the death of their mother and partly because they know that when she was a child the lone survivor of a fundamentalist cult that went Jonestown. His ultimate plan is to leave her alone at the lodge with the two children for a couple of days while he takes care of some business, but this proves to be a very bad idea. Meanwhile The Invisible Man deals with a very different kind of trauma from its onset, namely the extensive trauma that its main character Cecilia (Elisabeth Moss) experienced prior to the film’s beginning when she was apparently the victim of extensive domestic abuse at the hands of her boyfriend Adrian Griffin (Oliver Jackson-Cohen). Griffin is someone who has earned millions in the “optics” business, but is by all accounts a controlling sociopath and Cecilia needs to literally break out of his home at night in the first scene. Two weeks later she’s in hiding and receives news that Griffin has killed himself, but she starts to wonder about this when strange things start to happen around her.
The thing about the “elevated horror” movement is that it’s definitionally an alternative movement, which is a dynamic we’re perhaps more used to seeing in music than in movies, and when alternative things become popular there’s always the looming threat that they’ll be coopted by the mainstream. That’s something I worried about when I saw the advertisements for that Gretel & Hansel movie, which kind of looked like the Silverchair to The Witch’s Nirvana. Granted I didn’t end up seeing it and that impression could be wrong, but it’s a distinct vibe I got from it. I had a little more hope for The Lodge but that was misplaced as it is very much the Bush to Hereditary’s Pearl Jam. In fact it’s kind of remarkable just how specifically the film is trying to be Hereditary what with its focus on a grieving family and its tendency to cut to a symbolic model house. That said it’s not trying to be a satanic cult thing and instead focuses on the tension of whether this woman is crazy and will go after the kids or whether the kids are the crazy ones who are going to go after her. There’s some interest to be found in that dynamic but it’s kind of lessoned by the fact that this whole setup is patently ridiculous. Blending families is never easy but trying to go about it through the trial by fire of leaving traumatized and clearly resentful children alone in an isolated building with an also traumatized woman is about the stupidest and most contrived thing imaginable.
The Invisible Man was released by Universal Pictures and is ostensibly meant to be the remake of the 1933 James Whale movie which was in turn based on the H.G. Welles novel of the same name, but the more telling logo in front of it is the Blumhouse Productions logo. Blumhouse does a lot of things and I wouldn’t go so far as to say he has a house style, but one of the things he tends to do is give his horror films a certain social edge that goes beyond the more subtle allegories that have existed in the genre in the past. Sometimes that comes in the form of silliness like their The Purge series, sometimes it just kind of feels like desperate pandering like their recent take on Black Christmas, but in general they’re really interested in getting the people who fight about stuff on Twitter into watching their scary movies and when they strike a chord like they did with Get Out there are high rewards. The Invisible Man’s strategy to do this is to make no bones about the fact that its protagonist is a victim of an abusive relationship and to make her plight through the movie to be an extreme manifestation of the kind of controlling behavior that exist in these relationships and also to show the bad guy’s scheme as essentially a form of gas lighting where he’s trying to make her look and feel crazy when he is in fact being supernaturally awful.
It’s still a little staggering that they were able to make the invisibility effects work as well as they did for the 1933 film using a variety of camera tricks. I’ve come to understand how they did them through a photochemical tick where things are shot in front of black screens but their challenge is still palpable. Even when Paul Verhoeven was making Hollow Man in the year 2000 and had a variety of CGI effects it still felt like a showcase of cutting edge ideas. The effects in this new invisible man movie are probably going to be less mind-blowing to anyone who knows anything about visual effects (I’m pretty sure it was a dude in green spandex on set who was digitally removed) but the scenes are shot with conviction just the same and director Leigh Whannell does seem to understand that he isn’t going to get away with just stringing together a bunch of invisibility gags. Where the production falters a bit more is in the acting, specifically the supporting performances. Elizabeth Moss is obviously great in the film and is well cast in her role, but a lot of the other actors here kind of seem like they got their job because the filmmakers were trying to keep their budget under control. None of the performances are terrible necessarily but a lot of them felt a bit “syndacated television” to me. I got the same feeling from Whannell’s last movie Upgrade, which didn’t even have a great lead performance at its center, so maybe something in his direction is to blame for that.
The acting is actually one of the stronger aspects of The Lodge. There isn’t anything in it as noteworthy as Elizabeth Moss’ performance but the cast in it is able to make the material work better than it might have otherwise. Riley Keough does a reasonably good job of keeping the audience in suspense about whether or not her character is the crazy one and the kids aren’t bad either. However a lot of the psychology the script gives them really does not pan out. The movie is trying to create a mix of trauma, mental illness, religion, and isolation to turn the titular lodge into a sort of pressure cooker for its characters but a lot of it just kind of feels like bullshit. Granted, a lot of “psychological thrillers” probably don’t hold up perfectly but those movies are entertaining and this one is not, in fact it’s quite boring at times. The movie is trying to do a sort of slow burn sort of thing, which can be thrilling when done right but I don’t think it’s done particularly well here and it’s all leading up to a twist that’s kind of predictable and also completely preposterous in the number of things that would have had to go exactly right and the logistics don’t go together at all.
The Invisible Man is less pretentious but I do think it has some ending problems as well. The movie is a little too quick to confirm that Cecilia’s suspicions rather than playing out that ambiguity and is far too quick to explain Griffin’s means of becoming invisible and they look kind of silly. The movie also takes a bit of a turn towards being more of an action piece in the vein of Upgrade, which is kind of fun in its own way but it lacks some of the primal terror that the first half was gesturing toward and I found the film’s final climax to be rather oddly staged and anti-climactic. None of this is a deal breaker, but it does hold the movie back a bit and keeps it more in the realm of the elevated B-movie rather than any sort of true horror classic. The Lodge by contrast is a movie that’s trying to be a serious horror classic but is just a complete non-starter for a variety of reasons. If these movies represent the shape of horror to come I’m not sure either makes a perfect case for their respective approaches. The Lodge shows that good ideas are not above being misused by wannabes and The Invisible Man kind of shows the limitations of what Blumhouse is going to be able to do at times, but as a movie unto itself The Invisible Man is plainly the stronger of the two and the one I’d much more quickly recommend.
The Lodge: *1/2 out of Five The Invisible Man: *** out of Five
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Post by thebtskink on Dec 30, 2020 22:06:39 GMT -5
Watching movies to compile my top ten, and this was a lot better than I was expecting.
Pretty cool how Whannell can make you horrified at a corner in a room.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 30, 2020 22:13:29 GMT -5
Dracula PG Cooper SnoBorderZeroI know pre-March 2020 doesn’t exist anymore, except for the Sonic movie of course, but it’s funny how everyone has forgotten about Elizabeth Moss for a Best Actress Oscar nomination. I mean, let’s be real, are there even five movies for any category? If there was ever a year for a movie like Invisible Man to get some awards consideration, it’s this one, and people already forgot this movie existed. lol.
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