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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 19, 2020 11:30:43 GMT -5
81. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2Because it's the only MCU film to transcend the brand's aesthetic, narrative, and thematic limitations.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 19, 2020 11:41:42 GMT -5
Whoa. Okay, mad respect, Coop.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 19, 2020 18:09:22 GMT -5
Alright, I've put this off long enough... Dracula Presents The Top 100 films of the 2010sThis should be a pretty natural extension of what I did when I did the top 100 of the 2000s way back in the day. As with most of my lists I'm disqualifying documentaries and I will not be cheating and lumping trilogies or doing any kind of ties (with arguably one exception). I'm also sticking strictly to American release dates for eligibility, which will benefit some and harm others. Also as with pretty much any list like this movies from the final year of eligibility (2019) are probably at a disadvantage. Finally, my list is more or less set at least in terms of what movies are making it, so if I see anything from the decade latter on they're s.o.l. Without further ado... 100. The Shape of Water (2017) Year: 2017 Release Date: 12/1/2017 Director: Guillermo del Toro Writer(s): Guillermo del Toro and Vanessa Taylor Starring: Sally Hawkins, Michael Shannon, Richard Jenkins, Doug Jones, Michael Stuhlbarg, and Octavia Spencer Based on: N/A Distributor: Fox Searchlight Country of Origin: United States Language: English Running Time: 123 Minutes Aspect Ratio: 1.85:1 I tend to be tough on Guillermo del Toro, in part because I think his potential is unlimited when he gets out of his own way, so when he squanders his talents on silliness like Pacific Rim it disappoints me. I also didn’t much care for his 2015 film Crimson Peak, which was bogged down by some weak scares (and yes, it is trying to be scary) and a script where the audience is way ahead of the protagonist in a frustrating way. He mostly got things back on track with his 2017 film The Shape of Water though I was kind of tough on it as well at first if only because it kind of felt like the movie I had hoped he’d make around 2010 and be on to other things by the end of the decade, but in retrospect it was probably better late than never. What I didn’t expect was for the rest of the public to finally be primed for his work and that the rather outlandish fairytale he delivered would become among the more improbable Best Picture Winners in Oscar history, at least in terms of subject matter. The themes of tolerance and of free spirits fighting back against oppressive societal conformity are all a bit on the nose, but it’s hard to call a movie about a lady boinking a fish monster uncreative and the movie also delivers a lot of very memorable moments and set pieces like the flooded bathroom and the throwback musical number late in the film. When a movie is doing all that a lot of my complaints about it just seem a bit petty in the long run.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 19, 2020 18:55:04 GMT -5
Hell yeah! Great first pick.
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Post by Doomsday on Feb 19, 2020 19:38:05 GMT -5
Alright, I've put this off long enough... Dracula Presents The Top 100 films of the 2010s100. The Shape of Water (2017)
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Post by Deexan on Feb 20, 2020 4:34:05 GMT -5
Alright, I've put this off long enough... Dracula Presents The Top 100 films of the 2010s100. The Shape of Water (2017)
Did somebody splice together Robin Williams and Mel Gibson?
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Post by Dracula on Feb 20, 2020 7:15:37 GMT -5
99. Baby Driver (2017) Year: 2017 Release Date: 6/28/2017 Director: Edgar Wright Writer(s): Edgar Wright Starring: Ansel Elgort, Kevin Spacey, Lily James, Eiza González, Jon Hamm, Jamie Foxx, and Jon Bernthal Based on: N/A Distributor: Columbia Pictures Country of Origin: United States Language: English Running Time: 113 Minutes Aspect Ratio: 2.35:1 There are a lot of movies that are going to be on this list because they’re meaningful or dramatic or innovative but Baby Driver is mostly just on it because it’s a fuckin’ blast. I’m not the world’s biggest Edgar Wright fan but there’s little doubt that this, his fifth movie since his breakout Shaun of the Dead, is an almost perfect execution of what he was trying to do. Though still a humorous film, this is probably the first of Wright’s movies that probably can’t be called a comedy and is instead more of an action/heist thing but some even went so far as to call it a musical as it more than any other film is intrinsically tied to its soundtrack. The film is wall to wall popular music that the protagonist is listening to on iPods and throughout the film almost ever motion is set to the beats of the various songs in a way that looks like it must have been just the biggest pain in the ass to accomplish. Even looking past that this is still a very colorful and exciting action movie unto itself with some really well staged action scenes and car chases which is also bolstered by an all-star cast that really seem to be in tune with the spirit of the whole thing. And as fun-loving as the film can be it isn’t completely weightless and does manage to build some legitimate interest in its characters and you do care when some of them end up getting killed off. Still not exactly the most substantive movie of the decade by any means, but it’s one I’ll probably be revisiting a lot.
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Post by frankyt on Feb 20, 2020 8:38:18 GMT -5
And it takes advantage of not letting elgort speak at all. Because that bird chested boy has no acting talent.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 20, 2020 8:53:04 GMT -5
And it takes advantage of not letting elgort speak at all. Because that bird chested boy has no acting talent. Doomsday walked away from West Side Story when he heard Ansel Elgort was playing the lead.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 20, 2020 13:07:37 GMT -5
I'm onboard so far.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 20, 2020 18:21:14 GMT -5
98. Cloud Atlas (2012)Year: 2012 Release Date: 10/26/2012 Director: Lana Wachowski, Lily Wachowski, and Tom Tykwer Writer(s): Lana Wachowski, Lily Wachowski, and Tom Tykwer Starring: Tom Hanks, Halle Berry, Jim Broadbent, Hugo Weaving, Jim Sturgess, Doona Bae, Ben Whishaw, James D'Arcy, Zhou Xun, Keith David, David Gyasi, Susan Sarandon, and Hugh Grant Based on: The Novel "Cloud Atlas" by David Mitchell Distributor: Warner Brothers Country of Origin: United States Language: English Running Time: 172 Minutes Aspect Ratio: 2.35:1 When the Wachowskis made The Matrix in 1999 people expected them to be the makers of innovative action cinema the rest of their careers and while that has sort of been true their muses have taken them into some increasingly strange directions that have not always been in line with what audiences wanted. One of those strange directions that actually worked for me was Cloud Atlas, the 2012 film they made with Tom Tykwer based on David Mitchell’s novel of the same name. I had read Mitchell’s novel, which covers six different stories set in six different time periods and incorporating an unconventional symmetrical format, before seeing the movie and was skeptical about how easily it was going to be brought to the screen. I will say I have some issues with some of the choices they made in adaptation: that they have the same actors playing roles in each time period is cinematically interesting in a number of ways but does lead to some questionable makeup choices and also forges connections between characters that were not intended by the source material and the decision to intercut the stories throughout rather than following the original format may well have led to a lot of confused audience members. But the film does also improve some of the books problems and makes certainly make the chronologically final story more palatable than trying to interpret the weird invented language Mitchell wrote that chapter in. I’m not sure what the experience of watching this thing would be to someone who hasn’t read the book and there are definitely some mistakes it makes along the way but I can’t help but be taken by the ambition of the whole thing and the exuberance with which the Wachowskis and Tykwer dive right into this wild project.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 20, 2020 20:29:14 GMT -5
I haven't read the book and I love the hell out of the film.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 20, 2020 21:14:09 GMT -5
I love the hell out of the film. We’re only at 98. Don’t blow your load yet.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 20, 2020 22:11:23 GMT -5
I love the hell out of the film. We’re only at 98. Don’t blow your load yet. Too late, my man.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 20, 2020 22:14:07 GMT -5
Hell yeah, some more love for Cloud Atlas!
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Post by Dracula on Feb 21, 2020 7:26:20 GMT -5
97. Avengers: Infinity War (2018) Year: 2018 Release Date: 4/27/2018 Director: Joe Russo and Anthony Russo Writer(s): Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely Starring: Robert Downey Jr., Chris Hemsworth, Mark Ruffalo, Chris Evans, Scarlett Johansson, Benedict Cumberbatch, Don Cheadle, Tom Holland, Chadwick Boseman, Paul Bettany, Elizabeth Olsen, Anthony Mackie, Sebastian Stan, Dave Bautista, Zoe Saldana, Josh Brolin, and Chris Pratt Based on: The characters from Marvel Comics Distributor: Buena Vista Country of Origin: United States Language: English Running Time: 149 Minutes Aspect Ratio: 2.35:1 Given their dominance of the box office dominance of the Marvel Cinematic Universe throughout the 2010s decade and how many hours of pleasure they gave me between them all it feels like I do owe them some representation on the top 100 even if I probably like them more as a collective than I do any individual film. If I am going to place one MCU film in to represent them all it only makes sense to make it one of the Avengers movies given that those films kind of combined a lot of what made this series so special. I was tempted to put the original The Avengers for how well it set the template and sort of springboarded the franchise into dominance and an argument could also be made for Avengers: Endgame given that it brought everything together into a massively profitable even, but the movie that ultimately seems to be the best representation of what these movies managed to get right is the penultimate Avengers movie: Avengers: Infinity War. Infinity War did a great job of juggling a lot of storylines while also introducing a shockingly well realized villain in Thanos. Like a lot of Marvel’s movies it really gets that perfect balance between storytelling, character interaction, and action set-pieces. But what really put Infinity War over the top was that big cliffhanger ending. Obviously it was easy to watch that cynically and assume that it would be undone (which is essentially was in Endgame) but that doesn’t change the fact that it was a shocking way to end one of these movies that the effect it had on the theater I was watching it in was one of my most memorable cinematic moments of the decade. In a decade full of movies where superheroes were fighting to keep glowing macguffins from killing everyone there was something really affecting about seeing what happens when one of those doomsday devices actually worked.
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Post by Deexan on Feb 21, 2020 7:59:42 GMT -5
97. Avengers: Infinity War (2018) Year: 2018 Release Date: 4/27/2018 Director: Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely Writer(s): Lana Wachowski, Lily Wachowski, and Tom Tykwer
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 21, 2020 9:40:31 GMT -5
I get your reasoning and I do think you chose the best Avengers movie, but I still think Guardians 2 is a stronger film, and the strongest film the company has put out by a pretty wide margin.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 21, 2020 9:55:44 GMT -5
I get your reasoning and I do think you chose the best Avengers movie, but I still think Guardians 2 is a stronger film, and the strongest film the company has put out by a pretty wide margin. GOTG2 kind of just felt like a routine Marvel romp to me when I saw it. I know Lindsay Ellis and others have made a case for it as a movie about dysfunctional family dynamics but, I don't know, at a certain point a movie's surface nature can over-power subtextual stuff like that.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 21, 2020 10:02:48 GMT -5
I get your reasoning and I do think you chose the best Avengers movie, but I still think Guardians 2 is a stronger film, and the strongest film the company has put out by a pretty wide margin. GOTG2 kind of just felt like a routine Marvel romp to me when I saw it. I know Lindsay Ellis and others have made a case for it as a movie about dysfunctional family dynamics but, I don't know, at a certain point a movie's surface nature can over-power subtextual stuff like that. I felt similar to you in a theater, but on a rewatch the film hit me a lot harder emotionally. I also think the character work is a lot stronger and the film is the best looking of the MCU. Black Panther comes close, but some of the weak effects in act 3 sort of bring things down.
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Post by IanTheCool on Feb 21, 2020 10:48:09 GMT -5
GOTG2 is not the best for one reason: ... that character whose name i dont remember now.
Yondu, thats it. You thought people overreacted to Agent Coulson's death in Avengers? James Gunn said hold my beer.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 21, 2020 11:10:04 GMT -5
GOTG2 is not the best for one reason: ... that character whose name i dont remember now. Yondu, thats it. You thought people overreacted to Agent Coulson's death in Avengers? James Gunn said hold my beer. But Yondu's death meant a lot to Starlord as his father figure and is thematically relevant in a story about parenthood. Coulson was just a guy Tony sort of knew and mostly made fun of.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 21, 2020 11:28:53 GMT -5
Plus, they undid Coulson's death almost right away for the Agents of SHIELD series.
As for what's the best MCU of the decade...it's probably the cliche answer already, but it's Endgame for me personally. GOTG 2 got better and better the more I watched it, but Endgame pretty much floored me with the strength of its emotional and action beats. GOTG 2 is in my Top...8 at least MCU's overall, though, and could climb higher. 2017 though was a strong year though for the MCU between that, Homecoming and Ragnarok.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Feb 21, 2020 11:55:14 GMT -5
Just going to drop this here for no reason.
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