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Post by 1godzillafan on Mar 10, 2021 15:26:21 GMT -5
OR Doomsday can give me two movies and his only option is Justice League.
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 10, 2021 15:55:16 GMT -5
OR Doomsday can give me two movies and his only option is Justice League. The Snyder or Whedon cut?
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Post by Neverending on Mar 10, 2021 15:56:37 GMT -5
OR Doomsday can give me two movies and his only option is Justice League. The Snyder or Whedon cut? Both.
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 10, 2021 16:11:56 GMT -5
I'm game for Godzilla's deal but I can't watch both cuts, I don't have it in me. Maybe I'll watch one now and the other a year from now.
And if we're doing the picking and choosing for our partners, I have the perfect movie for him.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Mar 10, 2021 16:20:46 GMT -5
I'm feeling merciful so I'll go with Whedon.
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 11, 2021 13:20:21 GMT -5
I'm feeling merciful so I'll go with Whedon. Does that mean you expect the Snyder cut to be worse?
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Post by thebtskink on Mar 11, 2021 13:45:35 GMT -5
I'm feeling merciful so I'll go with Whedon. Does that mean you expect the Snyder cut to be worse?Anyone who doesn't is a fool.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Mar 11, 2021 14:09:11 GMT -5
I'm feeling merciful so I'll go with Whedon. Does that mean you expect the Snyder cut to be worse?I don't know about worse, but it doesn't have the self-indulgent runtime and features the hilarity of Henry Cavill's face.
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 11, 2021 14:18:44 GMT -5
Hold on, so I wrote off DCEU and I'm out of the loop but let me get this straight.
So Whedon takes over for Snyder. Whedon's JL is a turd (presumably, I haven't watched it). People are upset that they got Whedon and not Snyder so they bitch and moan. Now they're getting Snyder's but they don't expect it to be better than Whedon's? What is going on?
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Post by Dracula on Mar 11, 2021 14:39:40 GMT -5
Hold on, so I wrote off DCEU and I'm out of the loop but let me get this straight. So Whedon takes over for Snyder. Whedon's JL is a turd (presumably, I haven't watched it). People are upset that they got Whedon and not Snyder so they bitch and moan. Now they're getting Snyder's but they don't expect it to be better than Whedon's? What is going on? Snyder had shot most of Justice League but it was decided that there would be a whole bunch of reshoots. At this point Snyder dropped out of the project. The official story is that he did this because he needed to mourne his daughter's suicide, but a lot of conspiracy theorists think they actually just dropped him because they lost faith in his talents after BvS and wanted to bring in The Avengers guy to make the movie different. Nonetheless he did shoot a majority of the footage and the theatrical cut still has Snyder as the credited director. While doing the extended reshoots Whedon somehow managed to make the set even more toxic than it was before and the reworking and after a troubled reshoot process involving digital moustache removal, the final movie came out as a product that pleased nobody; it lacked Snyder's grandiosity and also wasn't a particularly fun or well paced movie like The Avengers. Troubled that the movie of the Justice League turned out to be soulless and forgetable, Snyder's hardcore fanbase come to the conclusion that the maestro's vision must have been completely erased by Whedon and that if Snyder's original vision was restored the movie would be awesome. They became verbose enough about this that somehow someone at Warner Brothers decided that indulging these people could be a driver to HBO Max and would ultimately be cheaper than actually producing a new superhero movie for their struggling streaming service. Then once Snyder started putting this together he decided that he needed to also do all the reshoots he was originally planning to do before he was quit/allowed to step down, so next thing you know they've sunk even more money into this even though no one was asking for any of this but a small cadre of lunatic Snyder fans.
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Post by Neverending on Mar 11, 2021 17:05:19 GMT -5
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Post by thebtskink on Mar 11, 2021 17:16:12 GMT -5
Nah. If you guys won't do an Avengemnet watch party but would do a Zach Snyder's Justic League I have no hopes for this place.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Mar 11, 2021 17:34:26 GMT -5
Avengement's actually not half bad. I think a few people here might get a kick out of it.
It's better than Whedon's Justice League and likely Snyder's too.
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Post by Dracula on Mar 11, 2021 19:48:34 GMT -5
LOL. I got into a flame war on Wikipedia by trying to add a quote from an A.V. Club review on that movie's page which said "Fireproof gets hung up in a lot of Promise Keepers hoo-hah about reaffirming marriage as a covenant with God rather than a contract filed at City Hall, but that's just a cover for two fundamental points about the movie: Cameron acts like a childish jerk, even in the reconciliation phase, and the underlying reason is that he—and the movie—hates women." The critic who wrote it even found out about it and tweeted about it.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Mar 11, 2021 20:05:53 GMT -5
I have not, but I'll take it.
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LOL. I got into a flame war on Wikipedia by trying to add a quote from an A.V. Club review on that movie's page which said "Fireproof gets hung up in a lot of Promise Keepers hoo-hah about reaffirming marriage as a covenant with God rather than a contract filed at City Hall, but that's just a cover for two fundamental points about the movie: Cameron acts like a childish jerk, even in the reconciliation phase, and the underlying reason is that he—and the movie—hates women." The critic who wrote it even found out about it and tweeted about it. Nice! I didn't know you could get into flame wars on Wikipedia. You should see if you can dig that tweet up. Years ago the wife and I met a couple and were just chit chatting. The other wife asked at one point 'do y'all like movies?' and I said 'yeah I like them somewhat.' She told us 'I have the BEST movie for you to watch together' and while I waited for the inevitable piece of junk she said 'Fireproof!' and I blurted out 'With Kirk Cameron?!?' but I said it in that 'are you kidding me?' tone. She could tell I was laughing at her and played it off with a 'hey it's cute, you should watch it before you knock it.' We laughed a bit and then we left and never talked to them again. Months later on our anniversary with wife surprised me with a six pack and a Fireproof DVD as a joke (or was it?). We watched it and wow, it's a doosey. Not long after I found out that my local radio guys talked it about it on their show years earlier. Godzilla, don't listen until you watch so nothing gets spoiled.
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Post by Dracula on Mar 11, 2021 22:13:45 GMT -5
LOL. I got into a flame war on Wikipedia by trying to add a quote from an A.V. Club review on that movie's page which said "Fireproof gets hung up in a lot of Promise Keepers hoo-hah about reaffirming marriage as a covenant with God rather than a contract filed at City Hall, but that's just a cover for two fundamental points about the movie: Cameron acts like a childish jerk, even in the reconciliation phase, and the underlying reason is that he—and the movie—hates women." The critic who wrote it even found out about it and tweeted about it. Nice! I didn't know you could get into flame wars on Wikipedia. You should see if you can dig that tweet up. And apparently the whole argument (in which I annoyed the living shit out of someone named AmericanEagle) is still preserved on Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fireproof_(film)#Unsourced_NPOVI was plainly in the right through the whole thing but eventually just kind of got sick of arguing and moved on and the quote isn't on the page anymore.
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Post by PG Cooper on Mar 12, 2021 6:37:02 GMT -5
Nice! I didn't know you could get into flame wars on Wikipedia. You should see if you can dig that tweet up. And apparently the whole argument (in which I annoyed the living shit out of someone named AmericanEagle) is still preserved on Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fireproof_(film)#Unsourced_NPOVI was plainly in the right through the whole thing but eventually just kind of got sick of arguing and moved on and the quote isn't on the page anymore. King shit.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Mar 12, 2021 8:07:51 GMT -5
I think we've outed Kirk Cameron's wiki username.
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Post by donny on Mar 12, 2021 10:36:37 GMT -5
Hold on, so I wrote off DCEU and I'm out of the loop but let me get this straight. So Whedon takes over for Snyder. Whedon's JL is a turd (presumably, I haven't watched it). People are upset that they got Whedon and not Snyder so they bitch and moan. Now they're getting Snyder's but they don't expect it to be better than Whedon's? What is going on? Snyder had shot most of Justice League but it was decided that there would be a whole bunch of reshoots. At this point Snyder dropped out of the project. The official story is that he did this because he needed to mourn his daughter's suicide, but a lot of conspiracy theorists think they actually just dropped him because they lost faith in his talents after BvS and wanted to bring in The Avengers guy to make the movie different. Nonetheless he did shoot a majority of the footage and the theatrical cut still has Snyder as the credited director. While doing the extended reshoots Whedon somehow managed to make the set even more toxic than it was before and the reworking and after a troubled reshoot process involving digital moustache removal, the final movie came out as a product that pleased nobody; it lacked Snyder's grandiosity and also wasn't a particularly fun or well paced movie like The Avengers. What made it toxic before Whedon came on? Just the fact that WB lost faith in Snyder and it made everything awkward? I've never been more fascinated with the behind the scenes of such a worthless shit movie, but here I am.
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 12, 2021 13:00:56 GMT -5
Nice! I didn't know you could get into flame wars on Wikipedia. You should see if you can dig that tweet up. And apparently the whole argument (in which I annoyed the living shit out of someone named AmericanEagle) is still preserved on Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fireproof_(film)#Unsourced_NPOVI was plainly in the right through the whole thing but eventually just kind of got sick of arguing and moved on and the quote isn't on the page anymore. Dang, that's awesome. And yeah, the odds of that being Kirk are high.
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 12, 2021 13:06:55 GMT -5
We've got a couple reviews in the wings but I'm not too worried about it. Throwing up the new round now in case any of you want to post lists and track down flicks for the weekend. Thanks for doubling up, Godzilla. Round 205thebtskink - PhantomKnight Dracula - PG Cooper Neverending - donny IanTheCool - 1godzillafan Doomsday - 1godzillafan Let's aim for April 5th for a due date. If we can get them all in beforehand I'll throw up another round earlier.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Mar 12, 2021 13:11:23 GMT -5
This discourse made me more excited than ever to watch something with Kirk Cameron since I was 6 and Growing Pains was on.
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