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Post by frankyt on Jul 5, 2019 12:31:23 GMT -5
Ari aster keeping it going with midsommar. If you liked hereditary youll probably enjoy this. Same kinda slow burn building tension with some more overt comedy throw in along with some dry sarcasm as well peppered in just like hereditary.
Dani suffers a great personal trauma and her douchey bf who won't commit invites her to come along on his month and a half European vacation first stopping in their friend Pelle's home village in Sweden, and his two other buddies also coming along.
The film is much like his previous work, there isn't a ton of gore but when it does show it's face it is certainly jarring for both the viewer and the characters in the movie.
I'm not saying the movie is perfect or anything, but I definitely enjoyed it. Thought it would turn up a little more from the early reviews I read, but after the first moment of gore it really isn't that gross out or anything, relying more on menace and the unknown to deliver tension.
After this and annihilation and to a certain degree climax (that movie sucked though) and Mandy; psychadelic horror is most certainly back on the menu and Midsommar has some really great trippy sequences as it builds to it's climax. Some awesome camera work, great tracking scenes and awesome transition pieces elevate the technicals of the movie above most all horror films out today.
Big ole dug it from me, but it is every bit of 2.5 hours, and apparently there's a cut of the film that breezes through 3 hours.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 5, 2019 15:48:41 GMT -5
C- cinemascore
Slight improvement over the D+ that Hereditary got.
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Post by thebtskink on Jul 5, 2019 20:03:09 GMT -5
The set design and camera work, once again, are masterful.
The slow burn only briefly feels too much, but you're invested from the beginning of the film and never quite at ease with everything around you. At a certain point you truly feel as disoriented as the characters.
Florence Pugh and the guy who plays her boyfriend turn in empathetic performances as well.
I think I want to rewatch this movie on mushrooms.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jul 5, 2019 20:57:54 GMT -5
Really liked this. The way they captured the feeling of being on a bad drug trip was incredible. Been a busy holiday for me and I'm on set all weekend, but I'll deliver my reviews for Neverending when I can.
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Post by Pbar on Jul 6, 2019 11:17:15 GMT -5
I must have seen a different movie than the rest of you. I got it. I hated it.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 7, 2019 16:33:22 GMT -5
Midsommar(7/2/2019)
I don’t know that I necessarily saw this coming but the “A24 horror film” has somehow become something of a filmgoing institution. These are horror movies that are noticeably artier and more intelligent than what cinema-goers are normally used to and critics love them. However, as a byproduct of these being horror enough to play in normal theaters they also bring in a lot of audiences who expect their genre fare to offer simpler pleasures and as a result they end up getting really low “Cinemascores” (which are like these exit-poll things that are done by a research company and are considered important by Hollywood insiders) and end up getting these hilariously clueless user reviews in places like IMDB and RottenTomatoes. Honestly I think this critic/audience disconnect is a bit overblown, it’s basically just the result of a cadre of people who were never really in these films’ audience in the first place also tagging along and not knowing how to process what they’re being given. The main movies in this trend have been Robert Eggers’ The Witch, Trey Edward Schults’ It Comes At Night, and Ari Aster’s Hereditary, and while Hereditary was the last of these films to come out its director was the first of the three to have a follow-up come out. That new film, Midsommar, is opening this week on 2707 screens and should lead to some rather interesting audience responses.
Midsommar begins with something of a prologue set somewhere in the United States during the middle of winter. Here we’re introduced to Dani Ardor (Florence Pugh), a psychology student who’s struggling with a troubled sister and a fairly shaky relationship with her boyfriend Christian Hughes (Jack Reynor). Christian and his friends are planning a trip to Sweden in the summer to visit the home village of his friend Pelle (Vilhelm Blomgren) which lives a traditional lifestyle and still engages in centuries old rituals during festival times, which is of great interest to Christian and his fellow anthropology student Josh (William Jackson Harper) and of course European decadence is also very much of interest to his other friend Mark (Will Poulter). After a tragedy occurs Christian decides to invite Dani along to get away from it all, but it could soon become clear that they aren’t exactly sure what they’re in for.
Despite what Cinemascore might suggest I do think Hereditary ended up pleasing standard horror audiences more than some of the other A24 horror films. It grossed more at the box office than the other two films and I’ve generally heard fewer anecdotes about dumb people being “bored” by it. I think that’s because, in its last third, the film does start to deliver on some of the more conventional scares that people are looking for. That in many ways seems to be what may set Ari Aster apart from someone like Robert Eggers; even when he’s making a horror film in his own idiosyncratic ways he does know how to throw the horror audience a bone. In this film that bone is probably the set of characters he’s assembled, who do roughly fall within the usual trope characters even if they feel richer than usual. Dani might not be a virgin but she still has plenty of “final girl”-isms, Christian certainly seems like the jock boyfriend who ultimately won’t be able to protect her, Josh is the “smart one” who knows a lot about the sub-theme, and Mark is the boorish party dude who acts as comedy relief. The film manages to challenge some of these tropes without self-consciously subverting them but it isn’t afraid to exploit them just the same and is surprisingly funny at times in the way it depicts the interplay between some of these guys.
The other big connective tissue between Midsommar and Hereditary is that both films are in many ways movies about mourning and feature characters who are just recovering after experiencing a loss that makes them rather emotionally vulnerable right from the jump. Also, in much the way Hereditary basically shows the dissolution of a family as a result of both grief and supernatural shenanigans, Midsommar explores the toll of both a loss and horror scenarios on a relationship. Dani and Christian are two characters who are established as being pretty close to the end of the road already as the movie opens, with Christian’s friends establishing that he’s been planning to break up with her for reasons that seem cruel but understandable. Dani is shown to have been someone who’s gone through a lot even before her family tragedy and that she’s been a handful and a half and that Christian has been at wits end and that he’s on some level been staying in the relationship out of a sort of uncertain pity. Christian knows this, the audience knows this, but Dani does not necessarily know this and that kind of establishes for the audience that they’re about to be metaphorically watching a car crash in slow motion and the rest of the movie can almost be viewed as a sort of operatic manifestation of how this kind of breakup can go wrong in the most extreme of ways.
Of course this is a horror movie, or at least it poses as one. The obvious reference-point for all of this is obviously Robin Hardy’s 1973 film The Wicker Man, which is about a similarly paganistic commune which may or may not be sinister in its adherence to “the old ways.” Like that movie it doesn’t necessarily try to be “scary” at all times and instead gains power by exerting a sort of quiet threat at all times. In fact a lot of what makes the movie so appealing in its paranoia is the way the characters are constantly having their survival instincts over-ridden by the hospitality of these cultists, who have this uniquely Swedish way of seeming completely reasonable and inviting no matter what they’re saying. Where the film may lose some people is that, outside of a couple of gory moments thrown in, the horror in the film is generally left at an intentional simmer rather than brought to a boil. Though it goes into some fairly transgressive places towards the end it isn’t necessarily leading to anything as viscerally exciting as the finale of Hereditary. Rather, the film’s finale is almost more like a really, really, really dark joke rather than a thrilling chase in the dark and that could be a bit polarizing.
At the end of the day, Midsommar is built to be a niche genre movie… the Swedish title probably should have been your first clue there. It’s a film that’s uncompromising, it’s got a long running time, it takes its time, it will gross out people who come in expecting it to be The Conjuring, and it just generally behaves different from mainstream horror movies (even more so than Hereditary). That it’s opening wide will maybe lead to the same pattern of critical acclaim and fan backlash that we’ve seen before… but maybe it won’t. Maybe if A24 keeps putting out interesting product like this the right audience will continue to catch on and the people who aren’t equipped to enjoy them will increasingly stop showing up expecting the wrong thing. As for this one, well, even as someone very interested in what it was doing I will admit that this is pushing the limits of how long a horror movie can go without really trying to be conventionally scary and as such I probably preferred Hereditary on a whole. But maybe that’s a sacrifice worth making in order to see what Ari Aster can do when he’s really allowed to just go nuts.
**** out of Five
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jul 8, 2019 20:29:37 GMT -5
Filmmaker debuts and their subsequent followup films is a topic I've discussed quite often throughout my various reviews on this site. We're all quick to jump on the train of proclaiming a director as the next big thing after they create a first project that excites, innovates, and is distinctly their voice, but the real test comes with what they do next. Are they a one-trick pony, or are they a true talent destined to create films for decades? One of those names is certainly AFI-alum Ari Aster, who certainly got people's attention with his first film, Hereditary. Hereditary was one of my favorite films of the year, and there was much to admire about it. Aster elicited an incredible performance from Toni Collette (who was duly snubbed of any Oscar consideration), displayed tremendously fluid camerawork and blocking, and delivered on the horror movie trope goods while also revealing these tropes in such a unique way that pulls the viewer into an almost trance-like fascination with the grotesque situations occurring onscreen. He's an uncompromising filmmaker who clearly delights in shocking his audience and subverting our expectations, perfect for anyone operating in auteur horror such as he is. For his next film, Midsommar, Aster again dips into the art horror sphere though this time with more prudent pacing and less of the visceral shocks that Hereditary had. But that's not to say that Midsommar doesn't deliver plenty of the grotesque imagery, absorbing character drama, and nasty twists that Aster is making a name for himself on. It's a wonderful companion piece to Hereditary in that despite being quite a different film certainly has Aster's craft and voice all over it. I can't say that anyone who liked or didn't like Hereditary will like or dislike Midsommar, but I found it to be wonderfully absorbing and odd and for me has cemented Aster as an auteur that will be hopefully making more of these twisted films for years to come.
Midsommar begins in true Aster fashion where our protagonist, Dani (Florence Pugh), undergoes a horrible family tragedy and is, understandably, deeply traumatized by it. To make matters worse, her long-time boyfriend Christian (Jack Reynolds) has grown tired of her and wants to end their relationship, but it's clear that despite his selfish tendencies can't go through with it out of more pity than actual empathy. During a party, Dani finds out that Christian is planning on going with his friends to visit a remote village in Sweden that will be having a ritualistic festival they're eager to partake in, commissioned by their friend Pelle (Vilhelm Blogrem) who is from the village and urges them to attend. Christian is directionless, attempting to figure out what his thesis will be about and feels the trip could give him inspiration and also a much needed break from Dani's demanding nature. Along for the ride is anthropology student Josh (William Jackson Harper), who is going to write his thesis on the ritual, and Mark (Will Poulter) who is largely interested in partying and trying to seduce as many Swedish women as possible. Christian, out of more moral pity, invites Dani to come along, and they all travel to Sweden together. After taking some hallucinogenic mushrooms, Dani has a panic attack under the midnight sun and it's clear that no matter how hard she tries the tragedy she's endured is impossible for her to shake. Christian and the others view her as spoiling their good time, but are too "polite" to overtly say so. They reach the idyllic village, which instantly has the vibe of too good to be true, of which we of course know to be correct and are just waiting for the darker secrets to emerge. There are some very comical moments of the Americans attempting to fit in with the pagan Swedes and their traditions, such as how the hierarchy at the dinner table works or how the sleeping arrangements are carried out, and Mark in particular has some great moments that echo what the audience is thinking but would probably never say out loud in fear of offending the Swedes. Other issues begin to surface however, including an incredibly barbaric ritual that the group witnesses that basically sets the stage for everything to go downhill as a result. While it's not the intense horror movie Hereditary was from this point on, Midsommar slowly builds and builds until we reach the culmination of Dani and Christian's crumbling relationship that plays out differently than one would expect from the trailers and posters. It may not stick in your head in the disturbing fashion Hereditary did, but Midsommar's climax is certainly worth the journey.
An element anyone has to admire about Aster's work with Midsommar is his incredible attention to detail and ability to place the viewer right into the setting with his fluid camerawork and brilliant artistic touches. There's a lot of drone work being done here, and it pays off immensely as we sort of float around the settlement and its adjacent fields like we're locked into this trance that we know we should break away from but just can't. There's a neat sequence where the camera tracks upside down along a stretch of road as we delve closer to the village that was just really cool to see, as well as a fiendish tracking shot in the opening of the film that's just so expertly done. The biggest standout however is how well Aster nails the feeling of being on a bad trip whenever the group is exposed to hallucinogenic drugs and has the background and objects in the mid ground moving, swaying just enough. Unlike films that overdo these elements with extremes, Aster incredibly pulls off the feeling of the bad trip that won't end while never being outlandish with any of it. It all plays into this idea that this idyllic world is there for you to let your inhibitions down if only you submit, but there's nothing more terrifying than refusing to do so yet being unable to shake it off either. It's not easy to make a horror film that takes place almost entirely in direct sunlight, and while I can't say any moments in the film are particularly scary, it's pretty impressive what Aster has accomplished here.
And yet for all of Aster's impressive touch on the film, the most applause has to go to lead actress Florence Pugh who gives an absolutely dynamite performance as Dani. She's so in command of how to play her emotions, from big exhalations of sorrow to the strained struggle of attempting to hold everything in that's just exhilarating to watch. A scene near the beginning in particular where Aster holds an uncut closeup on her face as she politely attempts to coax Christian to comfort her is such a powerhouse of acting that I was immediately floored by her ability. This is now two films in a row that Aster has directed his lead actresses to amazing performances, and for all of the well garnered attention we give to his fluid camerawork and sinister narrative structures, his work with Toni Collette and Florence Pugh are his most impressive accomplishments. It's wonderful to sit back and sink into performances as strong as Pugh's in Midsommar, and if she doesn't get award consideration for her role then it would be a serious shame. We feel her anguish at the uncomfortable situations she's putting herself through in order to save the relationship we all know is over, and the incredible range that she displays in her face at attempting to hide these anxieties should be used as an example for acting classes everywhere. She's seriously that fantastic in this film.
While I think that Hereditary holds the slight edge due to delivering more of the horror thrills in the third act that you come to expect and is a more disturbing affair all around, Midsommar is a wonderful followup for Ari Aster that shows off his numerous abilities as a director. He's just one of those filmmakers that clearly gets it, from knowing just how to stage the action to how to reveal crucial plot details, and it's more than enough to make up for any shortcomings the film may have. It's a long film, and yet I never found myself even the slightest bit bored or wondering why scenes were included at all. Rather it's a slow burn that develops so many interesting themes on its way to a uncompromising climax. It's all here, from religion to relationships to how we handle trauma, and while not all of it pays off in the most profound of ideas, there's still a lot to unpack and one has to admire the many ambitions that Midsommar has on display. It's likely to be more divisive than Hereditary and is probably more in line with most of the A24 offerings of horror films, but Midsommar is an absorbing piece of auteur horror that hopefully Aster can continue to disturb viewers with for years to come.
8/10
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Post by Pbar on Jul 9, 2019 1:18:20 GMT -5
Am I living in Bizarro Land right now?
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Post by Neverending on Jul 9, 2019 1:22:33 GMT -5
Am I living in Bizarro Land right now? It’s A24 Land
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jul 15, 2019 17:33:35 GMT -5
Will Poulter was absolutely hilarious in this movie.
"I think we should lie down now. Yeah, yeah, everyone lie down."
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jul 22, 2019 12:54:26 GMT -5
Last year, Hereditary knocked me on my ass as Ari Aster laid down his stake in the field of the horror genre, and now he's back this year with Midsommar, a film that's more sneaky in its horror than Hereditary, but just as unsettling in many places. After a gut punch of an opening, Aster settles into a more languid rhythm where the sense of dread and unesase gradually becomes more and more pronounced until it outright bursts free in a couple of brutal moments. This isn't a jump-scare-every-five-minutes kind of horror movie (even though there are still a few films like that that are quite effective), nor does it need to be. Aster continues to showcase his talent for building both tension and character so that his payoffs feel all the more earned and horrifying, and just in terms of pure craft, he solidifies how he's definitely got the goods. He also seems to have a thing for making his lead actresses give soul-wrenching crying scenes. On that note, Florence Pugh is great here and the dynamic between her and Jack Reynor feels painfully authentic. You really get a clear sense of all the complicated and fragile emotions between the two, which only adds to the film's overall sense of unease.
If I have any complaints, it's that you can definitely feel the 147-minute runtime as a result of the deliberate pace, especially compared against Hereditary's much tighter and concise pacing, so there were times where it was testing my patience a little. I think Aster could've trimmed some fat here and there for sure.
But overall, Midsommar marks another win for the writer/director and he's keeping me very interested in seeing what he does next.
***1/2 /****
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Post by IanTheCool on Jul 31, 2019 19:33:26 GMT -5
That was MESSED UP
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Post by daniel on Aug 2, 2019 7:14:14 GMT -5
I don't know if I can write a review for this after having seen it just once, and having been extremely high when doing so. This movie fucked me up a bit, has given me continued nightmares, and I can't stop thinking about it. I think it might just go down as one of the greatest horror films of all-time, and will be considered a true classic once the dust settles in cinema a bit. Hereditary certainly showed us what Ari Aster was capable of, but I think this was his Empire Strikes Back.
I'll circle back after a second viewing, but for now I'm inclined to give this a 10/10. I had zero issues with it.
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Post by frankyt on Aug 27, 2019 13:55:17 GMT -5
Directors cut Friday. Only one showing so far for us but I'll be there if I can.
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Post by frankyt on Aug 30, 2019 8:15:40 GMT -5
Spoilers ahead for people who haven't seen the movie at all. You've been warned.
So the directors cut is good fun. It's much more overtly funny and the sarcasm is absolutely dripping, even more so than the original cut. You really fucking hate Christian in this cut, repeatedly his motivations and the movies overall jabs at acceptance culture are more pronounced and obvious. Pelle takes on a more menacing role as 'leader' instead of guide from the og cut as well which is established early on in the car ride with an extra scene.
If I'm honest I think I enjoyed the og cut more. It has more menace and things are left unsaid and implied as opposed to being laid out (in particular there is a night scene with Dany and Christian that is infuriating from anyone rooting for danys perspective). The directors cut does produce all the bodies however (even though I'm not sure why the fuck the one guy gets burned up... Who did he bring? They count everyone and it's only the people ingmar and pelle brought, Olaf or whatever does not have any names to his... Name so why is he burning?)
And some scenes are extended and you can see why they cut out the one girl from London's death altogether as it wouldn't have made sense in the og cut without one scene in particular.
If you hated it before you'll hate it even more, but fans will appreciate some closure on some things, but I found the directors cut to make it too sarcastic and shallow in scenes they added, extending some scenes was appreciated however so really I want like a 2 hour and 40 minute cut.
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Post by donny on Aug 30, 2019 8:47:37 GMT -5
I'm surprised they are showing the directors cut near me, but I'm going to give it a shot.
I think I like this more than Hereditary though.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Aug 30, 2019 9:04:06 GMT -5
Is the Director's Cut theater-only, or will it be included on the Blu Ray? Gonna be out of town for a week on vacation starting tomorrow.
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Post by frankyt on Aug 30, 2019 9:21:17 GMT -5
It will not be on the first edition blu ray. All indications are that first edition is basically just the og cut, very little extras. Avoid that one.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Aug 30, 2019 10:30:00 GMT -5
Good to know.
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Post by IanTheCool on Aug 30, 2019 17:46:02 GMT -5
If I'm honest I think I enjoyed the og cut more. Original cuts tend to be better.
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Post by frankyt on Sept 4, 2019 16:34:52 GMT -5
Well in a major fuck you to physical media... The directors cut will be released exclusively in apple tv.
I can imagine some people here have strong feelings.
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Post by Dracula on Sept 4, 2019 17:04:57 GMT -5
Well in a major fuck you to physical media... The directors cut will be released exclusively in apple tv. I can imagine some people here have strong feelings.
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