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Post by Neverending on Jul 4, 2018 16:12:30 GMT -5
Ant-Man and the Wasp, or Wasp and the Ant-Man for you feminists, might be the most plot driven superhero movie I’ve ever seen. What do I mean by that? Let’s look at Spider-Man 2, made before superhero movies were good according to SnoBorderZero. That movie begins with an amusing scene in which Peter Parker desperately tries to deliver a pizza in 30 minutes or less. Is it relevant to the story and setting up where Peter Parker is in life? Of course. But it didn’t need to be so extravagant. They could have opened the movie with Peter Parker’s alarm going off and him saying, “thanks to school, a part time job and crime fighting I only got 2 hours of sleep last night.” But they didn’t do that. Why? Because you wanna give the movie some flavor. If Spider-Man 2 is pizza, then Ant-Man is rice cake. This unnecessary sequel sandwiched in between Infinity War and Captain Marvel is about the Ant-Man gang trying to rescue Catwoman from the Quantum Realm while also running away from the FBI (Forever Bothering Individuals), Walton Goggins and that chick from Ready Player One that was chasing people. Yeah. That’s right. She chased people in TWO movies this year. Talk about typecasting! And Walton Goggins was in Tomb Raider. Talk about horrible career choices! Was I bored by Ant-Man and the Wasp? Is it a bad movie? No. Not at all. Marvel has yet to make a bad movie. Their factory is running smoothly. But it’s not a movie that needed to exist. It’s like Hawaiian pizza. Is it bad? No. But if Thanos erased it from existence no ones gonna shed a tear. Also, can we talk about Paul Rudd for a moment? I like Paul Rudd, but goddamn, the man is vanilla. He’s literally the least interesting character in this whole movie. If this movie were The Wasp with Michael Pena & T.I. it would have been a kazillion times better.
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Post by Doomsday on Jul 4, 2018 17:03:38 GMT -5
I'd like to kill the sonofabitch who thought it was a good idea to put goddamn pineapple on a pizza.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 6, 2018 0:54:09 GMT -5
It was fine.
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Post by frankyt on Jul 6, 2018 6:24:37 GMT -5
Love the Canadian bastard that came up with Hawaiian pizza. Top five slice for me.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 6, 2018 8:12:46 GMT -5
Love the Canadian bastard that came up with Hawaiian pizza. Top five slice for me. PG Cooper prefers the maple syrup pizza.
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Post by FShuttari on Jul 6, 2018 14:01:12 GMT -5
Holy cow this is 87% on rotten tomatoes.
Good for Ant-man being just a medicore superhero flick.
I hated Jurassic World and wasn't impressed by Han Solo. So I really hope this movie is good as the critics are saying it is.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 6, 2018 18:06:06 GMT -5
Ehhhhhhhh...don't go too crazy with expectations. Most critics are saying "Yeah, it was good" rather than anything extraordinary.
I preferred the first film, personally. And I wasn't even crazy about that one either. Like I said above, it was fine. But not "CRAZY STUPID FINE!"
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Post by FShuttari on Jul 7, 2018 3:24:32 GMT -5
This is easily the most entertaining movie of the summer, besides maybe Incredibles 2. That movie had me dying laughing as well. Michael Peña and his crew stole every scene they were in, that interrogation scene had our whole theater in stitches he way the actors lip-sync to Penas story time is amazing. Expressions and all. Also Paul Rudd role playing Michelle Pfieffer. Perfection... wow. Also I loved that Ghost had a real motive, it's like she didn't want to be bad, she was in a lot of pain... Not just from her parents, but damn like her and Morpheus explaining whats going on. Like I can't... even be mad for why she is the way she is. Marvel is learning how to make better villains. -Me when the credits roll: what a funny, like able addition to the marvel universe Me after the after credits: I feel only a lingering horror. Also did anyone else pick up on the line "Look out for time vortexes" Avengers 4 is all about fixing and undoing the snap. With ant-mans help? Really fun movie. I want to go back and see it again. It was a blast 9/10
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Post by Pbar on Jul 7, 2018 4:54:33 GMT -5
Second best Marvel episode this year. Works best when it's about parents and their children. There's just a solid superhero movie in there as well.
It's the best superhero movie the late 90s, early 2000s didn't get.
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Post by Jibbs on Jul 7, 2018 19:09:01 GMT -5
Good opening, great finish, muddled center. If you thought the first one was funny, you should be happy with this one, as well. Good dose of heart, too.
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Post by Nilade on Jul 8, 2018 3:38:34 GMT -5
Decent flick. Not the best of the bunch, but I'd rank it somewhere in the middle along with Spiderman: Homecoming and Doctor Strange. It definitely ranks above Thor: Dark World and Iron Man 2, as far as sequels are concerned. I'll add more to this post when I've had some more time to think about it.
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Post by thebtskink on Jul 8, 2018 9:31:04 GMT -5
The de-aging tech is getting good
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Post by Doomsday on Jul 8, 2018 10:01:21 GMT -5
We'll see come The Irishman.
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Post by Jibbs on Jul 8, 2018 22:27:33 GMT -5
We'll see come Captain Marvel.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 9, 2018 1:45:35 GMT -5
The de-aging tech is getting good Yeah, but have they brought John Wayne back to life?
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Post by frankyt on Jul 12, 2018 10:37:10 GMT -5
I dug it.
Person I went with hasn't seen infinity war yet so was quite confused.
Pena is the best.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Jul 12, 2018 11:48:51 GMT -5
I dug it. Person I went with hasn't seen infinity war yet so was quite confused. Pena is the best. 7.5/10 Hadn't seen Infinity War, or Civil War? Not having seen Infinity War shouldn't make any difference, but Civil War had a major impact on the plot.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 12, 2018 12:02:30 GMT -5
I dug it. Person I went with hasn't seen infinity war yet so was quite confused. Pena is the best. 7.5/10 Hadn't seen Infinity War, or Civil War? Not having seen Infinity War shouldn't make any difference, but Civil War had a major impact on the plot. He's probably referring to the post credit scene.
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Post by frankyt on Jul 12, 2018 16:23:31 GMT -5
He had also not seen civil war. Just being a movie bro.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 12, 2018 20:03:33 GMT -5
Ant-Man and The Wasp(7/9/2018)
2014 was not a good year for Marvel. That was the year that Avengers: Age of Ultron came out and proved to be a rather unruly mess, and that was followed by a strange little movie called Ant-Man. Ant-Man is to date the third lowest grossing Marvel film after The Incredible Hulk and the first Captain America and to those in the know the final film kind of lived in the shadow of the fact that Edgar Wright was once going to direct it. I wasn’t a fan of that movie either. Of course it was a Marvel Cinematic Universe movie so there was enough quality control going on that it certainly wasn’t “bad,” but there were a lot of elements that didn’t really work and it just seemed like kind of a lame exercise in the grand scheme of things. I was especially put off by one aspect of Ant-Man’s powers, namely the way he could punch people while miniature and have them react as if they’d just been given an uppercut by a heavyweight fighter. That doesn’t make sense. Even if they did have incredible strength while miniature the fact that it’s channeled into a small space like that would make Ant-Man piece into the bad guys like a bullet not hit them with blunt force trauma. It breaks the laws of physics dammit! Still, in 2018 Marvel is on a roll and I suspected that they had enough momentum to improve on their last effort with the sequel Ant-Man and The Wasp.
The film is set two years after the events of Captain America: Civil War but before the events of Avengers: Infinity War. After having been arrested for breaking the Sokovia Accords in Captain America: Civil War Scott Lang (Paul Rudd) has been on house arrest this whole time. Hank Pym (Michael Douglas) and his daughter Hope (Evangeline Lilly) have apparently also been on the run this whole time because it was their technology that was used in Scott’s breach. At the film’s start his sentence is only days away from being over but for some reason he suddenly finds himself having a strange dream about Hank and Hope and in a semi-delirious state calls them using a burner phone that he had hidden and tells them about it. Something like a day later he’s suddenly tranquilized and moved to a secret lab that Hank and Hope have been building where they hope to enter sub-atomic space to rescue Hank’s lost wife. But not long after they all find themselves in a run-in with a mobster named Sonny Burch (Walton Goggins) and then they’re accosted by a strange masked combatant that seems to phase in and out of reality and it becomes clear that they’re going to be in the fight of their life.
The title of Ant-Man and The Wasp gives equal billing to Hope but don’t be fooled, this is still very much a story told from the perspective of Ant-Man, which is perhaps to be expected given that he’s more of an audience surrogate than Hope. Hope is given a costume this time around and gets to participate in the action sequences as The Wasp but narratively she more or less shares her storyline with her father, who could just as easily be considered a co-star with the other two. That aside the movie generally has a clearer picture of its characters than the original film did and the fact that it has its origin story stuff out of the way gives it a lot more time to act as something of a romp. Most of the comic relief cast from the previous movie like Michael Peña and T.I. are back and Randal Park has been added as a delightfully nerdy FBI Agent who’s meant to be overseeing Scott’s house arrest and just steals every scene he’s in. People who are frustrated by the fact that so many superhero movies tend to end with fights against super-villains that are about to set loose some world ending calamity will likely enjoy the fact that this movie involves a fight against some rather low level thugs led by Walton Goggins (who’s very much in “Vice Principals” mode here) and even the more traditional superhero foil called Ghost proves to be less eeeevilll than most Marvel villains.
In general Ant-Man and The Wasp is a clear improvement over its predecessor, it seems to have a bigger budget, it more clearly knows what it wants to be, and its cast has gelled considerably. That said I still think this is one of Marvel’s weaker franchises, some people might like the film’s lighter tone, but I think Marvel movies are already plenty light to begin with and the Ant-Man movies bring that lightness to the point of feeling downright disposable. This one in particular seems to really think that its tone can excuse away some pretty obvious plot-holes like the FBI’s incredible inability to keep tabs on Scotts home. This all feels particularly inconsequential given the ending of Avengers: Infinity War, which only really comes up here during Marvel’s patented post-credits sequence, but the film otherwise does not feel terribly important to the greater MCU storyline. The decision to release this a mere two months after Infinity War seems particularly curious given that there are no Marvel movies lined up at all for the fall and I’m guessing that there would have been a much bigger shortage of escapist entertainment like this during that season. Having said all that, I don’t want to leave anyone with the impression that this isn’t worth seeing because it probably is at least if you’re an MCU fan. These movies are basically never bad and this one isn’t either. It’s a neat action movie and most audience members will get what they came for.
***1/2 out of Five
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Post by Neverending on Jul 27, 2018 2:00:09 GMT -5
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jul 27, 2018 16:31:20 GMT -5
I liked it just fine, though I did think the first one was better.
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 24, 2018 11:51:55 GMT -5
I went last night to watch Ant-Man and the Wasp. It started at 9:30 and I had just got out of work. I got my seat, I settled in, I'm relaxed and ready to finally see the movie before it's probably out of theaters.
That's when a dumbass couple walks in with their two year old and an infant carrier. At 9:30 at night. On a Thursday.
They sat behind me. I told myself I'll give them the previews. I did, I gave them the previews. The two year old wouldn't stop talking, 'mommy, what's that?' 'Mommy food!' 'Shhh Shhhhhh!' 'Mommy I sit over there.'
So I left. I got a refund. I guess I'll just wait for Redbox.
What the fuck is wrong with these people? When I watched Hereditary there was a woman with three fucking kids all under the age of 5 or so. Also, when are theaters going to crack down and say 'no, you can't bring your infant in here.' Or better yet, charge them for a ticket. Then these dumbass horrible fucking parents will think twice before bringing a kid who has no business being there in the first place. They don't let people smoke in theaters, why? Because it bothers people. I'd almost rather sit by a smoker than some retarded asshole who brings their kids to a movie. Pissed, pissed pissed pissed.
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Post by Dracula on Aug 24, 2018 12:19:52 GMT -5
I went last night to watch Ant-Man and the Wasp. It started at 9:30 and I had just got out of work. I got my seat, I settled in, I'm relaxed and ready to finally see the movie before it's probably out of theaters. That's when a dumbass couple walks in with their two year old and an infant carrier. At 9:30 at night. On a Thursday. They sat behind me. I told myself I'll give them the previews. I did, I gave them the previews. The two year old wouldn't stop talking, 'mommy, what's that?' 'Mommy food!' 'Shhh Shhhhhh!' 'Mommy I sit over there.' So I left. I got a refund. I guess I'll just wait for Redbox. What the fuck is wrong with these people? When I watched Hereditary there was a woman with three fucking kids all under the age of 5 or so. Also, when are theaters going to crack down and say 'no, you can't bring your infant in here.' Or better yet, charge them for a ticket. Then these dumbass horrible fucking parents will think twice before bringing a kid who has no business being there in the first place. They don't let people smoke in theaters, why? Because it bothers people. I'd almost rather sit by a smoker than some retarded asshole who brings their kids to a movie. Pissed, pissed pissed pissed. Go to nicer theaters.
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 24, 2018 12:21:57 GMT -5
It was an Arclight!
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