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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 17, 2020 13:29:01 GMT -5
PG Cooper's Vaguely Defined Movies About "The Black Experience"Daughters of the Dust (Julie Dash, 1991)Daughters of the Dust has been one of those films that I've wanted to save for ideal viewing conditions since I knew its reputation not just has a landmark in Black cinema, but a film that helped gesture toward a Black cinematic language. As it turns out, my viewing experience was less than ideal as a weak internet connection led to a lot of interruptions in the film's first half. Maybe that's a sign I should have just watched the damn thing instead of waiting for some platonic ideal screening. Anyway, what is there to say about the film itself? Well, I definitely liked it a lot even if I didn't fully "get it" on a first viewing. Daughters of the Dust is set in 1902 and follows a group of Gullah islanders who have developed their own culture - an extension of their West African heritage - independently on Dataw Island on the Georgia coast. That unique setting goes a long, as it not only provides some beautiful visuals in the Island itself and the culture which has emerged, but also because it allows the film to explore a rather exceptional social milieu. The islanders we follow aren't entirely free of white influence (as Euli's backstory speaks to), but their culture has managed to thrive independently. The conflict in the film comes in a divide from those who wish to remain on the island (represented by elderly matriarch Nana Peazant) and the more modern thinking young people who wish to leave. Then again, describing that as the conflict of the film is a bit misleading as this isn't really a plot driven movie. It's actually more of a hypnotic experience defined by a strong sense of place and absolutely gorgeous imagery. The experience of simply being on Dataw with the characters is the definite highlight of the film. There is a ton to be said about the film's depiction of heritage and cultural memory. That Daughters of the Dust is narrated by the unborn child of Eula and Eli (who occasionally appears as an apparition) suggests volumes about the ways in which we are the sum totals of our ancestors, as well as how their experiences shape us even if we have no knowledge of them. That said I don't think I'm really qualified to dive into the weeds here, at least not after one viewing. What I will say is Julie Dash's film did largely live up to the hype. I can't say I think it's an unequivocal masterpiece, but it's certainly an exceptional piece of filmmaking worthy of its reputation. A-
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Post by Neverending on Jul 17, 2020 14:11:46 GMT -5
Coop going with all the deep cuts. I see a video essay in the future.
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 17, 2020 17:37:53 GMT -5
Coop going with all the deep cuts. I see a video essay in the future. There is very much a video to be made about the run of 90s movies made by and about Black women of various ages dealing with themes of heritage, ancestory, femininity, and Black identity in relation to American history. Just Another Girl on the I.R.T (about a teen), The Watermelon Woman (a woman in her 20s), Eve's Bayou (a child), Down in the Delta (a woman in her 30s) and the aforementioned Daughters (which has an elderly matriarch but is really cross-generational). However, my white-male ass probably isn't the best choice for this topic.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 2, 2021 9:22:11 GMT -5
CB4 (1993) This parody of early 90's rap music stars Chris Rock as the leader of the rap trio Cell Block 4. It has tons of hilarious moments, some insightful commentary sprinkled in, and of course, it features the late great Charlie Murphy. But the story... or lack of a story... I should say... damages the overall product. There's three people credited with the script and none could put together a three-act structure and character development? I'd ask for a refund from whichever community college they went to.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 3, 2021 7:44:03 GMT -5
TROUBLE MAN (1972)Soon to be remade by SnoBorderZero and Wesley Snipes, Trouble Man is about a fixer caught between two rival gangs. The script is paper thin, but all the characters are badass and the score is by Marvin Gaye. Certainly worth your time. Ya dig?
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Feb 3, 2021 17:26:44 GMT -5
I'm adding this to my list.
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Post by Doomsday on Feb 3, 2021 17:30:51 GMT -5
Yeah, sounds pretty fun haha.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 3, 2021 17:32:22 GMT -5
I'm adding this to my list. Yeah, sounds pretty fun haha.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Feb 3, 2021 17:37:04 GMT -5
Bumped it all the way up to #3 on my Netflix DVD queue. Don't say I don't do anything for you Neverending
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Post by Neverending on Feb 4, 2021 10:57:10 GMT -5
STREET SMART (1987) SnoBorderZero, this is why you shouldn't be a gatekeeper. Cannon, your favorite Z-list studio from the 1980's, made a critically acclaimed crime drama featuring Morgan Freeman in both his breakout role and one that would earn him an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor. As they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Anyway, Christopher Reeve (a.k.a. Superman) plays a reporter doing a story on a Time Square pimp, played by Freeman. When people think of Morgan Freeman, they think of Driving Miss Daisy or Shawshank Redemption. He's been typecast as an old wise Black man. But some of us elderly folks will remember Freeman from Lean on Me where he cleaned up a ghetto school by beating up children. The man has some edge to him and it's full on display in Street Smart. He's actually quite frightening in the role and you can tell that many of his violent outbursts were improvised because of the genuine reaction of his co-stars. In fact, there's a scene in which he bitch slaps a hooker and 1) you can tell it's a real slap and 2) it definitely wasn't scripted. Here, check it out: Doomsday, I'm tagging you so you can watch the clip too. Anyway, go watch Street Smart. Great movie.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 4, 2021 16:44:42 GMT -5
I guess I should post more of the reviews I wrote last year when I started replying in this thread... The Watermelon WomanThe Watermelon Woman is a faux-documentary where writer/director Cheryl Dunye plays a fictionalized version of herself, an indie filmmaker making a documentary on a Black actress from golden age Hollywood whose name has been lost to history. The basic premise makes for a great story that is immediately provocative, speaking to the exclusionary history of Hollywood cinema as well as the names lost in early film history. There's also something very empowering in Dunye effectively carving out a new history for herself and she also makes for a very engaging screen presence. The film's structure is a bit messy (a lot happens off camera) and the performances can be pretty inconsistent, but The Watermelon Woman is a very strong piece of 90s indie cinema, one which deserved better on release. Nice to see its audience expand in recent years. A-
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Feb 4, 2021 16:47:19 GMT -5
STREET SMART (1987) SnoBorderZero , this is why you shouldn't be a gatekeeper. Cannon, your favorite Z-list studio from the 1980's, made a critically acclaimed crime drama featuring Morgan Freeman in both his breakout role and one that would earn him an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor. As they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Anyway, Christopher Reeve (a.k.a. Superman) plays a reporter doing a story on a Time Square pimp, played by Freeman. When people think of Morgan Freeman, they think of Driving Miss Daisy or Shawshank Redemption. He's been typecast as an old wise Black man. But some of us elderly folks will remember Freeman from Lean on Me where he cleaned up a ghetto school by beating up children. The man has some edge to him and it's full on display in Street Smart. He's actually quite frightening in the role and you can tell that many of his violent outbursts were improvised because of the genuine reaction of his co-stars. In fact, there's a scene in which he bitch slaps a hooker and 1) you can tell it's a real slap and 2) it definitely wasn't scripted. Here, check it out: Doomsday , I'm tagging you so you can watch the clip too. Anyway, go watch Street Smart. Great movie. I would absolutely watch this. I realized watching Deathtrap last year that I'd never seen Christopher Reeve in a movie that wasn't Superman, so the idea of seeing him and Morgan Freeman in '80s Times Square sounds like a good time to me.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 4, 2021 16:58:25 GMT -5
I realized watching Deathtrap last year that I'd never seen Christopher Reeve in a movie that wasn't Superman I keep forgetting you aren’t an elderly fellow, and thus, haven’t watched Somewhere in Time.
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Post by Doomsday on Feb 4, 2021 17:05:34 GMT -5
Story time: I might have mentioned it before but when I was in my late teens/early 20s I worked at Best Buy over the summers and holidays. I worked in 'media' which meant I just roamed the CDs and DVDs, restocked when I could but mostly just talked to people about music and movies. It was a pretty laid back gig and I got turned onto a lot of really cool stuff that I otherwise would never have watched or listened to. One day though an African American guy came in and started asking me about new movies he might like. I recommended stuff that was on our New Releases shelf like The Punisher or Kill Bill but he wasn't interested in any of that. Then he says 'You know what I want? I want a black gangster movie. A gangster movie for a black man like me, you got something like that?' Now I'm 19, I'm partially convinced this is all a setup and I know nothing about black cinema outside of Samuel L. Jackson's Shaft let alone 'black gangster movies.' When you work at Best Buy though you learn those shelves backwards and forwards, you know what you've stocked, where it is, how many copies you have and all that. The only thing that came to my mind was a 70s movie called Black Godfather and we had one copy sitting on the shelf. I grabbed it, handed it to him and asked 'uhhhh is this something you might like?' He went the hell off on me. 'Why the FUCK would I want to fucking watch THAT piece of shit? What the fuck is the matter with you? I ain't ever fucking watching that! Get that shit outta here!' Maybe he thought I was being stereotypical but it was his fault for not wanting to watch Kill Bill. What was he expecting? American Gangster wouldn't come out for another 4 or 5 years. Whatever. Good thing Twitter wasn't around or he would have tried to cancel my ass.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Feb 4, 2021 17:06:12 GMT -5
I keep forgetting you aren’t an elderly fellow, and thus, haven’t watched Somewhere in Time. I knew him as the original Superman (we had to grow up with Brandon Routh, yuk!) and this...
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Post by Neverending on Feb 4, 2021 17:14:19 GMT -5
I want a black gangster movie. A gangster movie for a black man like me He wanted New Jack City starring SnoBorderZero ‘s best pal Wesley Snipes. Or Deep Cover starring everyone’s favorite Black actor Jeff Goldblum.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 4, 2021 17:21:08 GMT -5
we had to grow up with Brandon Routh, yuk! In an alternate universe, Nick Cage was your first Superman.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 4, 2021 17:24:34 GMT -5
Doomsday Maybe you should have recommended Black Mama, White MamaThere's a lot of critical writing on this movie, to the point that perhaps I'm misjudging it, but I found Black Mama, White Mama to be quite the slog. The notion of a female-centered exploitation riff on The Defiant Ones is an enticing one, but the film doesn't really have much fun or charm. Pam Grier is generally wasted in a role that doesn't give her much to do, while the story is a bit plodding and ends on a real downer that doesn't feel appropriate for this style of film. Granted, a lot of film critics and scholars seem to have analyzed this as a more transgressive piece of exploitation cinema and had a I known that I might have viewed the film in a different light. But taken as a genre film, I found Black Mama, White Mama pretty disappointing. D
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Post by Dracula on Feb 4, 2021 17:26:55 GMT -5
Story time: I might have mentioned it before but when I was in my late teens/early 20s I worked at Best Buy over the summers and holidays. I worked in 'media' which meant I just roamed the CDs and DVDs, restocked when I could but mostly just talked to people about music and movies. It was a pretty laid back gig and I got turned onto a lot of really cool stuff that I otherwise would never have watched or listened to. One day though an African American guy came in and started asking me about new movies he might like. I recommended stuff that was on our New Releases shelf like The Punisher or Kill Bill but he wasn't interested in any of that. Then he says 'You know what I want? I want a black gangster movie. A gangster movie for a black man like me, you got something like that?' Now I'm 19, I'm partially convinced this is all a setup and I know nothing about black cinema outside of Samuel L. Jackson's Shaft let alone 'black gangster movies.' When you work at Best Buy though you learn those shelves backwards and forwards, you know what you've stocked, where it is, how many copies you have and all that. The only thing that came to my mind was a 70s movie called Black Godfather and we had one copy sitting on the shelf. I grabbed it, handed it to him and asked 'uhhhh is this something you might like?' He went the hell off on me. 'Why the FUCK would I want to fucking watch THAT piece of shit? What the fuck is the matter with you? I ain't ever fucking watching that! Get that shit outta here!' Maybe he thought I was being stereotypical but it was his fault for not wanting to watch Kill Bill. What was he expecting? American Gangster wouldn't come out for another 4 or 5 years. Whatever. Good thing Twitter wasn't around or he would have tried to cancel my ass. If you were in the habit of recommending Tarantino movies Jackie Brown was right there...
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Post by Neverending on Feb 4, 2021 17:28:32 GMT -5
I’ll watch anything with 70’s Pam Grier
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Feb 4, 2021 17:31:35 GMT -5
I’ll watch anything with 70’s Pam Grier I watched Coffy and Foxy Brown last year and they were a lot of fun.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 4, 2021 17:37:56 GMT -5
If you were in the habit of recommending Tarantino movies Jackie Brown was right there... The man wanted to watch Never Die Alone starring DMX.
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Post by Doomsday on Feb 4, 2021 17:39:19 GMT -5
Story time: I might have mentioned it before but when I was in my late teens/early 20s I worked at Best Buy over the summers and holidays. I worked in 'media' which meant I just roamed the CDs and DVDs, restocked when I could but mostly just talked to people about music and movies. It was a pretty laid back gig and I got turned onto a lot of really cool stuff that I otherwise would never have watched or listened to. One day though an African American guy came in and started asking me about new movies he might like. I recommended stuff that was on our New Releases shelf like The Punisher or Kill Bill but he wasn't interested in any of that. Then he says 'You know what I want? I want a black gangster movie. A gangster movie for a black man like me, you got something like that?' Now I'm 19, I'm partially convinced this is all a setup and I know nothing about black cinema outside of Samuel L. Jackson's Shaft let alone 'black gangster movies.' When you work at Best Buy though you learn those shelves backwards and forwards, you know what you've stocked, where it is, how many copies you have and all that. The only thing that came to my mind was a 70s movie called Black Godfather and we had one copy sitting on the shelf. I grabbed it, handed it to him and asked 'uhhhh is this something you might like?' He went the hell off on me. 'Why the FUCK would I want to fucking watch THAT piece of shit? What the fuck is the matter with you? I ain't ever fucking watching that! Get that shit outta here!' Maybe he thought I was being stereotypical but it was his fault for not wanting to watch Kill Bill. What was he expecting? American Gangster wouldn't come out for another 4 or 5 years. Whatever. Good thing Twitter wasn't around or he would have tried to cancel my ass. If you were in the habit of recommending Tarantino movies Jackie Brown was right there... I'm not exactly sure when Jackie Brown came out on DVD but as this was the early to mid-2000s its possible it wasn't even released at that point. While I was working there they still had yet to release Star Wars or Indiana Jones on DVD and there were a lot of other films that were also unavailable at the time. I mean it's very possible Jackie Brown might have been out at that time but it also wouldn't surprise if if I found out that it wasn't.
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Post by thebtskink on Feb 4, 2021 17:42:30 GMT -5
Cut to the chase Doomsday, have you watched Black Godfather?
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Post by Neverending on Feb 4, 2021 17:42:40 GMT -5
I’ll watch anything with 70’s Pam Grier I watched Coffy and Foxy Brown last year and they were a lot of fun. Huge fan of those movies. You can also watch Pam Grier in three Roger Corman movies shot at the same time and in the same location: Big Doll House, Big Bird Cage and Women in Cages. Roger Corman always gets his money’s worth.
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