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Post by frankyt on Jan 12, 2018 9:14:58 GMT -5
This was pretty awesome. Some of the tricks they use to make Robbie look better on the ice were tiring but obviously necessary.
Enjoyable movie, solid soundtrack, acting is solid, the wrap up takes a bit of time but they go through a buncha different characters and threads so I get it.
8/10. Prob the best contender I've seen this year so far.
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Post by Doomsday on Jan 12, 2018 17:15:40 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this too. It wasn't the most in-depth movie on the Tonya Harding story but it wasn't really trying to be. It does a great job at painting the terrible world that surrounded her as she tried to fit into a pure, chaste-like environment. Really good watch.
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Post by Dracula on Jan 13, 2018 20:40:42 GMT -5
I, Tonya(1/7/2018)
I am old enough that I remember the O.J. Simpson controversy. I don’t remember it very well as I was only about seven when the verdict was handed down and was mostly oblivious to its details and its social context, but it was something I knew was going on at the time. I am not, however, old enough to remember the other scandal du jour of the early 90s: the Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan kneecap clubbing affair. In fact I first heard about the whole incident from a Weird Al Yankovic song called “Headline News” which was a parody of The Crash Test Dummies’ “Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm” that described other tabloidy 90s news stories like that kid who got his butt caned in Singapore and that lady who cut off her husband’s wiener. You’ll note that there was not a word about O.J. in that song, in part because that story involved a double-murder, but also because that delved into some pretty serious aspects of American society which wouldn’t make it terribly suitable for a song parody (dancing Itos notwithstanding). The Tonya Harding case on the other hand was basically a joke from the beginning and was viewed by the public as little more than a cat fight writ large. However, like the O.J. story this is being revisited recently in a number of documentaries and articles to see if there was actually something to be mined from it now that the dust has settled and we have some perspective and the latest manifestation of that is the new feature film I, Tonya.
I, Tonya begins with a title card saying that it’s based on “irony free, wildly contradictory, totally true interviews” from it subjects. The main subject is of course Tonya Harding (Margot Robbie), who the film follows basically from her first professional skating lesson at the age of four up through the duration of the scandal that would define her. Throughout her youth she is being driven to succeed by her mother LaVona Fay Golden (Allison Janney), who paid for Harding’s lessons out of her modest waitress salary and supports her as she rose to the top of her sport. That would be an incredibly inspiring story if not for the fact that LaVona is otherwise a horrible mother who constantly abuses Tonya verbally and sometimes physically. As a teenager Harding is frustrated both by her mother’s craziness and the snobbery that’s preventing her from getting good scores at tournaments and this drives her into the arms of Jeff Gillooly (Sebastian Stan), who provides something of an escape for her despite also being physically abusive and just generally a loser. She ends up coming in fourth place at the 1992 Olympics and thinks her career is over until she learns that because of a re-allignment the next winter Olympics will be held just two years later. She believes she’s primed for a comeback… one that will soon be sabotaged by her scheming husband and his nutty friend Shawn Eckhardt (Paul Walter Hauser).
I, Tonya takes the form of a dark comedy and is structured by a series of faux “to the camera” interviews with the various characters which often become voice-over and the on-screen characters also occasionally break the fourth wall and talk to the screen. A lot of this structure is reminiscent of The Big Short or perhaps even 24 Hour Party People, especially when we get to scenes the characters stop, look at the camera, and says something like “it didn’t happen like this” during scenes where the testimonies of the various principals contradict each other. But the movie that this most clearly wants to be like is David O. Russell’s American Hustle. That movie, and other recent movies from Russell, deal with lower class families like Harding’s and have a similar pace and patter to them. The film certainly paints the “incident” at the center of the film as a hustle gone wrong more than anything and there’s a largeness to all the performances here that certainly matches what we saw from Bradley Cooper, Christian Bale, and Jennifer Lawrence in American Hustle. In fact I’d say it’s trying so hard to be like that movie and Goodfellas that it has an extensive soundtrack which mostly features music from the 70s even though the film is mostly set in the 90s, including certain songs that have become clichés of “70s soundtracks” like “Spirit in the Sky” and “The Chain,” which were both prominently featured in Guardians of the Galaxy movies.
Derivative as the film may be it would be something of a lie to suggest that these techniques that the movie rips off don’t still more or less work. As a comedy the movie does more or less function effectively with all the film’s colorful characters saying a lot of rather ridiculous things to one another and the film frequently cutting to them in interview form contradicting each other and commenting on certain things and occasionally even breaking the fourth wall. That the film functions as well as it does as a comedy is surprising given that it covers some rather dark material, namely the domestic violence that occurred between Gillooly and Harding, which could easily come across as rather flippant. The film has also been criticized for not being overly concerned with what Nancy Kerrigan went through in all of this, which seems a bit unfair as the movie is simply focusing on the more entertaining figures in all of this. What’s more I’m not sure that the movie is as sympathetic towards Harding as people are making it out to be. The movie certainly isn’t on Harding’s side when she makes goofy excuses or says wildly un-self-aware things like when she accuses Kerrigan of being the real bad sport in all of this.
There are a lot of movies that I respect more than I like. They’re movies that I can clearly see doing new and interesting things but which I just don’t really enjoy watching. This is the opposite of that, it’s a movie I like but don’t really respect. Its director Craig Gillespie is a guy who can deliver professionally made movies like the Fright Night remake, but he’s clearly not an auteur with a vision and here you can tell that he’s just borrowing from other contemporaries and applying those techniques to a movie that’s not nearly as clever as it thinks it is. I don’t think it has a terribly clear message to deliver about wealth inequality, domestic violence, or tabloid culture but it sure wants you to think it does. It does hit those funny notes when it needs to, it does move along at an impressive pace, it’s greatly elevated by its cast, and even when you’re cringing at how un-clever “Barracuda” is as a song choice you still sort of jam to it. Winter is a time when movies like this get held to a slightly higher standard as we try to parse out which movies are deserve to have their legacies built immediately by awards, and with that in mind I feel the need to knock this thing down a couple of pegs, but it’s also a movie I suspect most moviegoers looking for a good time at a theater shouldn’t be dissuaded from.
*** out of Five
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Post by IanTheCool on Jan 14, 2018 12:36:05 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this too. It wasn't the most in-depth movie on the Tonya Harding story but it wasn't really trying to be. It does a great job at painting the terrible world that surrounded her as she tried to fit into a pure, chaste-like environment. Really good watch. I was annoyed by the story twenty years ago, and I don't really want to be subjected to it again now. Is there more to the film other than just representing the story well?
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Post by frankyt on Jan 14, 2018 15:49:59 GMT -5
Typical Canadian annoyed at America's dominance on an ice based sport...
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Post by Doomsday on Jan 14, 2018 16:54:01 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this too. It wasn't the most in-depth movie on the Tonya Harding story but it wasn't really trying to be. It does a great job at painting the terrible world that surrounded her as she tried to fit into a pure, chaste-like environment. Really good watch. I was annoyed by the story twenty years ago, and I don't really want to be subjected to it again now. Is there more to the film other than just representing the story well? It’s certainly one of the main points of the movie but it’s mostly a movie that tries to paint Harding in a sympathetic light. They make her out to be someone doomed to fail from the start. It’s less of a movie about the Kerrigan incident and more of a lead-up to it.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Jan 28, 2018 17:35:19 GMT -5
The film has excellent performances and the storytelling from multiple perspectives was well done. I learned some things about what really happened, and being enlightened is never a bad thing. Still, none of the characters are likable and the two hour running time feels like at least two and a half. While I certainly do feel sorry for Tonya and everything that happened in her life to make her what she became, being able to sympathize with someone doesn't mean you like them. It only means you get why they're so unlikable.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 8, 2018 4:37:34 GMT -5
I, Tonya looks amazing
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