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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jan 5, 2018 1:11:14 GMT -5
A popular screenwriting podcast that I listen to, Script Notes, often times has segments where they pull up current events, true stories, or uncovered history and try to decipher if it would be made into a movie or not. Funny enough, many of the stories that they cover have gone on to become feature films on various levels. It's an interesting exercise, because even though every story they delve into is interesting in its own right, the question ultimately is whether or not it has enough meat on its bones to be made into a feature length film. The latest to receive this treatment surrounds the events of 2015 where three American friends prevented a potential massacre onboard a train bound for Paris. The three, Spencer Stone, Anthony Sadler, and Alek Skarlatos, were rightfully praised as heroes by both the French and American media, and Sadler wrote the book that this film derived from. This is a wonderful story of bravery, heroism, and good people triumphing over a hateful individual. The problem though is that director Clint Eastwood and screenwriter Dorothy Blyskal are on autopilot in regards to fleshing out any intrigue in this already succinct story, and the film isn't so much a bad film as it's an incredibly dull one. Eastwood's direction is nowhere to be seen here, a troubling realization considering the bold move by him to cast the heroes to play themselves in the film, and believe me when I say that these men are heroes but certainly not actors. The friends are hung out to dry also by Blyskal's plodding screenplay, which attempts to pad the event on the train with a brigade of trivial backstories and parallels all of which is carried out with some of the most stilted dialogue I've heard in a studio-released film. If this story had come on Script Notes (maybe it did, haven't listen to every episode), I find it hard to believe they'd tell Eastwood that there was enough material here to make a movie. The film begins with the three heroes as children and chronicles their friendship and the difficulties they're facing in school. They're bullied by peers, deemed disruptive by their teachers and principal, and can't seem to fit in with anyone but each other. There's a large portion of the film dedicated to this stage of their lives, and to be honest it's where it's most apparent that the script is grasping for any story that it can. I agree that it's important to show them becoming friends, and when they all drift apart as kids and yet stay great friends into becoming adults is compelling material as well, but none of it really feels like it carries any real weight dramatically. Later the heroes play themselves, still going in different paths yet remaining close friends. Spencer and Alek are in different branches of the military, while Anthony is a student in Sacramento. While the film does feature all three of them, Spencer Stone is certainly the main focus and does carry the most interesting storyline as well. Stone works towards becoming a member of an exclusive paratrooper force in the Air Force, but is unable to join it because of his depth perception and, crushed, must report for training for a position he doesn't want. The training initially doesn't go well for Stone, who draws the ire of his commanding officer for being tardy and not executing his tasks correctly. For the most part though, this doesn't go anywhere beyond Stone's initial disappointment in not getting into the program, and is yet another example of Blyskal presenting the potential for interesting backstory and squandering it. After some painfully dry dialogue between the three friends over Skype, they agree to travel to Europe. These scenes are a disappointment as well. There's some mildly amusing sightseeing around European cities between Spencer and Anthony, but it's mostly just a lot of dull meandering to local sights without any real hijinks or fun or drama or anything really. I'm all for the filmmakers striving for a realistic portrayal of these three and their story, but the scenes they've put together before the train attack are simply not "movie worthy". They're not advancing anything. It's painfully clear that the whole movie is just an exercise in padding running time before they can get to the climactic scene, but to make matters worse the train sequence really isn't worth the journey either. The sequence is also stretched to its capacity, but even then it's clear that, while an amazing real life story, there's not enough here to justify a feature film. The real tension of the shooter being loose is over almost as fast as it begins, and the reward for sitting through the continuous monotony of the entire film is certainly less than worthy. Blyskal's screenplay is a tiresome blend of bad dialogue and dull scenarios that certainly don't help anyone else involved, but I'm most disappointed with Eastwood here. I'm all for him casting the three heroes to play themselves; it's an interesting experiment and one that I think could've worked, at least a lot better than it did, if the writing were better and if Eastwood had directed the film with the ability we know he has. Then again, this technique had middling results when he tried it with the Hmong community in Gran Torino, so maybe it's not an experiment worth attempting. It's just so painfully obvious that the direction for the film simply isn't there. Eastwood could've shaken up the dialogue, guided them through improving some more interesting conversations that they would have with each other. He could have devised more interesting scenarios in Europe, if not bigger drama then at least more interesting looks at the culture and people of the cities the guys are visiting to make their meandering through Europe at least amusing. It's all a shame, because the three heroes are highly likable and are clearly trying their best. Stone is easily the best among the three, and he gives Eastwood all he's got, but sadly the three of them are let down by the elements three non-actors needed the most to succeed: a solid script and some direction. Blyskal and Eastwood let them down, simple as that. The three heroes deserved better, as did their story. It might not have been a great idea to make the wonderful story into a film anyways, as it's painfully obvious that the filmmakers have squeezed everything they could from their protagonists, but it still should have amounted to more than what we're given. The 15:17 to Paris is a rare film that isn't so much bad because it's an awful movie, but bad because it's immensely disappointing in its portrayal of its leads and ploddingly dull as it takes a ten minute film and stretches it out to a feature length one. Despite the rotten score, I didn't hate the movie, but I seriously questioned its point and the dedication of the people who made it, and that's almost just as bad. 4/10
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Post by thebtskink on Jan 5, 2018 13:50:10 GMT -5
I demand this be renamed The 3:17 to Paris!
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Post by Doomsday on Feb 8, 2018 10:16:52 GMT -5
14% with 14 reviews in. Ayeayeaye Zordon!
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 8, 2018 11:10:24 GMT -5
Yeah, this looked bad. I'm beginning to doubt if Eastwood really has it in him to make another great movie. Letters from Iwo Jima was 12 years ago and while he's made some decent stuff since then (Gran Torino, American Sniper) almost everything else has been a forgettable mediocrity at best. Hell even Gran Torino and American Sniper have some questionable stuff.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Feb 9, 2018 0:18:26 GMT -5
14% with 14 reviews in. Ayeayeaye Zordon! Called dat shit. Not that I take pleasure in this moving doing poorly, but Eastwood directing this thing on auto-pilot has not been overlooked by the critics.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 9, 2018 0:19:59 GMT -5
14% with 14 reviews in. Ayeayeaye Zordon! Called dat shit. Not that I take pleasure in this moving doing poorly, but Eastwood directing this thing on auto-pilot has not been overlooked by the critics. Warner Bros dumped this shit in the middle of Fifty Shades weekend.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Feb 9, 2018 0:21:27 GMT -5
Called dat shit. Not that I take pleasure in this moving doing poorly, but Eastwood directing this thing on auto-pilot has not been overlooked by the critics. Warner Bros dumped this shit in the middle of Fifty Shades weekend. Still twice as good a movie as that one. Peter Travers gave that shit a straight up 0/4.
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Post by frankyt on Feb 9, 2018 8:50:10 GMT -5
Sully was good awful too. Even Hanks couldn't save that turd, ending it on a literal sitcom look back shake your head and giggle was fucking awful.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 9, 2018 9:08:41 GMT -5
Sully was good awful too. Even Hanks couldn't save that turd, ending it on a literal sitcom look back shake your head and giggle was fucking awful. And Jersey Boys... and J. Edgar... and damn, Eastwood has sucked for at least 10 years now.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 9, 2018 20:01:22 GMT -5
Not trying to belittle the actual events or anything, but what's with Eastwood now making films out of events that, while courageous and admirable, don't seem like they need feature-length movies made out of them?
And who would've thought Peter Rabbit would get better reviews than this? Seems like WB knew what they were doing by putting this out in February.
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Post by Doomsday on Feb 9, 2018 20:13:57 GMT -5
ending it on a literal sitcom look back shake your head and giggle was fucking awful. Seeing that ending made me laugh in my seat. It's still really unintentionally funny to me. And yeah, I don't quite know how Eastwood picks his movies nowadays but the guy is going to be 88 in a couple months, I don't expect him to be as sharp as he was even 15 years ago.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 9, 2018 20:43:31 GMT -5
ending it on a literal sitcom look back shake your head and giggle was fucking awful. Seeing that ending made me laugh in my seat. It's still really unintentionally funny to me. And yeah, I don't quite know how Eastwood picks his movies nowadays but the guy is going to be 88 in a couple months, I don't expect him to be as sharp as he was even 15 years ago. He was quite senile at the 2012 Republican convention. That was 6 years ago.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 9, 2018 21:21:44 GMT -5
I'm imagining a scenario where Eastwood just falls asleep in his director's chair for most of the production and the assistants are too afraid to wake him up so they just try their best to get through the day's shots themselves.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 10, 2018 18:32:42 GMT -5
I'm imagining a scenario where Eastwood just falls asleep in his director's chair for most of the production and the assistants are too afraid to wake him up so they just try their best to get through the day's shots themselves. That's so depressing to picture.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 10, 2018 18:35:27 GMT -5
I'm imagining a scenario where Eastwood just falls asleep in his director's chair for most of the production and the assistants are too afraid to wake him up so they just try their best to get through the day's shots themselves. That's so depressing to picture. It’ll be even sadder when he doesn’t wake up.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Feb 11, 2018 2:05:37 GMT -5
That's so depressing to picture. It’ll be even sadder when he doesn’t wake up. You're on a roll with old people potentially dying lately. You... you got issues, man.
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Post by Doomsday on Feb 11, 2018 2:59:08 GMT -5
It’ll be even sadder when he doesn’t wake up. You're on a roll with old people potentially dying lately. You... you got issues, man. You know who else has issues? Milos Foreman. Boy is he close to death.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 11, 2018 4:14:20 GMT -5
It’ll be even sadder when he doesn’t wake up. You're on a roll with old people potentially dying lately. You... you got issues, man.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 11, 2018 4:24:34 GMT -5
You're on a roll with old people potentially dying lately. You... you got issues, man. You know who else has issues? Milos Foreman. Boy is he close to death.
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