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Nine features will advance to the next round of voting in the Foreign Language Film category for the 87th Academy Awards®. Eighty-three films had originally been considered in the category.
The films, listed in alphabetical order by country, are:
Argentina, "Wild Tales," Damián Szifrón, director;
Estonia, "Tangerines," Zaza Urushadze, director;
Georgia, "Corn Island," George Ovashvili, director;
Mauritania, "Timbuktu," Abderrahmane Sissako, director;
Netherlands, "Accused," Paula van der Oest, director;
Poland, "Ida," Paweł Pawlikowski, director;
Russia, "Leviathan," Andrey Zvyagintsev, director;
Sweden, "Force Majeure," Ruben Östlund, director;
Venezuela, "The Liberator," Alberto Arvelo, director.
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Post by donny on Jan 15, 2015 11:08:06 GMT -5
Hey, so are we getting the golden stake and/or the official top 10 movies of the year thread, Drac?
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Post by Dracula on Jan 15, 2015 11:11:57 GMT -5
Hey, so are we getting the golden stake and/or the official top 10 movies of the year thread, Drac? Eventually. I usually wait until the week before the oscar ceremony to do the official top ten thread so everyone gets some extra time to catch up with stuff. Golden stakes will depend on how fast I can write them, I usually try to end them right around Oscar week, but I have more late opening movies than usual to catch up on this year.
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I always found it interesting when we use these arbitrary barometers to measure racial progress in our society. 'All the Cinematography nominations are white guys. We still have a long way to go for true equality in America.' And what are they saying? Last year the Academy was less racist but this year they're more racist?
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Post by Neverending on Jan 15, 2015 11:48:04 GMT -5
It's "fake outrage" to point out that... Gone Girl wasn't nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay. It was written by a woman. The guy who played Martin Luther King, Jr. wasn't nominated for Best Actor. Then there's movies that weren't even invited to the awards season party. Chris Rock's Top Five came and went, for example. And Jon Favereau's Chef, the highest grossing "Indie" of the year, wasn't even included in the conversation. It featured Latino actors and culture. It's only a "coincidence" that these movies featured women and minorities.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jan 15, 2015 11:48:14 GMT -5
Yeah, I see where they're coming from but at the same time isn't it more racist to nominate people solely based on their skin color, gender, or religion? If the best of a group is all black or all white, does it really matter? They're the best, they should be nominated. I mean, Oyelowo should probably have been nominated (I haven't seen the film so can't really comment, more going based on the 99% on RT) so I can see the issue there. Idk, it's a tough call and you're never going to make everyone happy. It's like the morons who said "12 Years a Slave" only won because people don't want to be racist. Very untrue, it won because it was the best film of last year and deserved to win regardless of its content. I want to see the most deserving people nominated, that's all that should matter.
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Post by Doomsday on Jan 15, 2015 11:50:50 GMT -5
It's "fake outrage" to point out that... Gone Girl wasn't nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay. It was written by a woman. The guy who played Martin Luther King, Jr. wasn't nominated for Best Actor. Then there's movies that weren't even invited to the awards season party. Chris Rock's Top Five came and went, for example. And Jon Favereau's Chef, the highest grossing "Indie" of the year, wasn't even included in the conversation. It featured Latino actors and culture. It's only a "coincidence" that these movies featured women and minorities. So they're racist?
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Post by Knerys on Jan 15, 2015 11:53:31 GMT -5
Well clearly the real outrage should the absence of The Lego Movie.
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Yeah, I see where they're coming from but at the same time isn't it more racist to nominate people solely based on their skin color, gender, or religion? If the best of a group is all black or all white, does it really matter? They're the best, they should be nominated. I mean, Oyelowo should probably have been nominated (I haven't seen the film so can't really comment, more going based on the 99% on RT) so I can see the issue there. Idk, it's a tough call and you're never going to make everyone happy. It's like the morons who said "12 Years a Slave" only won because people don't want to be racist. Very untrue, it won because it was the best film of last year and deserved to win regardless of its content. I want to see the most deserving people nominated, that's all that should matter. Yeah, but is it fair that white pandering biopic bullshit like The Imitation Game and The Theory of Everything get tons of nominations without even trying while similarly "inspiring" and "important" black biopics like Selma needs to sweat and struggle just to get two nominations? I do think that Selma's problems were more the result of campaign mismanagement than overt racism, but it is telling that it needed to try twice as hard to get less of a result.
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Post by Dracula on Jan 15, 2015 11:57:00 GMT -5
It's "fake outrage" to point out that... Gone Girl wasn't nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay. It was written by a woman. The guy who played Martin Luther King, Jr. wasn't nominated for Best Actor. Then there's movies that weren't even invited to the awards season party. Chris Rock's Top Five came and went, for example. And Jon Favereau's Chef, the highest grossing "Indie" of the year, wasn't even included in the conversation. It featured Latino actors and culture. It's only a "coincidence" that these movies featured women and minorities. Top Five? The movie had an extended scene of a dude getting a tampon covered in tobasco sauce shoved up his ass and another scene of Cedric the Entertainer cumming all over a pair of prostitutes... race was the least of its problems.
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Post by Neverending on Jan 15, 2015 12:05:56 GMT -5
I want to see the most deserving people nominated. Unfortunately, they almost never are. No... the Academy Awards are just old White people who are out-of-touch. You know which is the movie that everyone is talking about this week? Gone Girl. It was released for home consumption on Tuesday. Everyone has seen it. Everyone loves it. "I've been Gone Girl'd" has become a meme. And yet... where's the Best Picture nomination? Best Director? Best Screenplay? Best Cinematography? Best Editing? Best Music? The Academy Awards are so irrelevant, man. People only care because this shit has been around for 80 years. If not - shit - the Oscars would become the new Tony's. The fact that even Dracula doesn't give a shit this year says a lot. And I've been saying it since day: Boyhood, Birdman, Gone Girl, Nightcrawler, Interstellar and Guardians of the Galaxy. Those are the movies that matter. But to the Oscars... no. Budapest! Imitation Game! Stephen Hawkings! Have fun being irrelevant in 50 years.
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Post by Neverending on Jan 15, 2015 12:08:34 GMT -5
Top Five? The movie had an extended scene of a dude getting a tampon covered in tobasco sauce shoved up his ass and another scene of Cedric the Entertainer cumming all over a pair of prostitutes... race was the least of its problems. Dracula... my man... you're better than this. Do I need to remind you that Borat and Bridesmaids were Oscar-nominated movies? In screenplay!
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Post by FShuttari on Jan 15, 2015 12:11:56 GMT -5
Selma, and LEGO Movie got hit hard.
All Nolan fans will complain til the end of time. But I stand corrected Inception deserved it's best picture nomination, Interstellar did not. But the sound track is awesome nonetheless.
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Post by Knerys on Jan 15, 2015 12:13:01 GMT -5
I haven't heard a single complaint in regards to Interstellar.
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Post by Doomsday on Jan 15, 2015 12:14:02 GMT -5
No... the Academy Awards are just old White people who are out-of-touch. You know which is the movie that everyone is talking about this week? Gone Girl. It was released for home consumption on Tuesday. Everyone has seen it. Everyone loves it. "I've been Gone Girl'd" has become a meme. And yet... where's the Best Picture nomination? Best Director? Best Screenplay? Best Cinematography? Best Editing? Best Music? The Academy Awards are so irrelevant, man. People only care because this shit has been around for 80 years. If not - shit - the Oscars would become the new Tony's. The fact that even Dracula doesn't give a shit this year says a lot. And I've been saying it since day: Boyhood, Birdman, Gone Girl, Nightcrawler, Interstellar and Guardians of the Galaxy. Those are the movies that matter. But to the Oscars... no. Budapest! Imitation Game! Stephen Hawkings! Have fun being irrelevant in 50 years. That I can agree with. The lack of Gone Girl and even a couple select Nightcrawler nominations are more baffling to me than anything. And Imitation Game and Theory of Everything..... uproxx.com/filmdrunk/2015/01/dear-academy-please-do-not-give-eddie-redmayne-an-oscar-nomination/
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Post by Dracula on Jan 15, 2015 12:16:02 GMT -5
Top Five? The movie had an extended scene of a dude getting a tampon covered in tobasco sauce shoved up his ass and another scene of Cedric the Entertainer cumming all over a pair of prostitutes... race was the least of its problems. Dracula... my man... you're better than this. Do I need to remind you that Borat and Bridesmaids were Oscar-nominated movies? In screenplay! Those were both super popular box office sensations, Top Five didn't even break $25 million.
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Post by Neverending on Jan 15, 2015 12:17:20 GMT -5
I haven't heard a single complaint in regards to Interstellar. Because... what's the point? We go through this every two years. The Academy Awards hate Christopher Nolan. I'm surprised Interstellar was even nominated.
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Post by Dracula on Jan 15, 2015 12:29:14 GMT -5
I haven't heard a single complaint in regards to Interstellar. Because... what's the point? We go through this every two years. The Academy Awards hate Christopher Nolan. I'm surprised Interstellar was even nominated. They don't hate him, they're just very uneasy about him. His movies usually do clean up in the technical awards (remember when Inception won cinematography out of nowhere?) and getting something as science fictiony as Inception a BP nomination and getting a major acting award out of a superhero movie are big accomplishments. If he ever decided to make something in a genre the Academy likes (say, a World War II biopic) they'd probably welcome him with open arms. They're the same way about Fincher. When he plays ball (Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Social Network) they like him, when he makes movies where people get their throats cut in a geiser of blood they don't like him.
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Well clearly the real outrage should the absence of The Lego Movie. variety.com/2015/film/news/oscar-snub-lego-movie-best-animation-12014059565 Reasons Why the Academy Overlooked ‘The LEGO Movie’It’s the morning that the Academy announces its Oscar nominations, and “The LEGO Movie” is on the ballot. No surprise, right? Wrong. Thing is, “LEGO” landed just one mention — in the song category for its infectious “Everything Is Awesome” anthem — but not in the animated feature category, where many were predicting that the toon blockbuster might win. That oversight comes as a total shock to Oscar pundits — arguably the year’s biggest snub, alongside the fact that “Selma” placed in only two categories (for which theories abound). From the point of view of the animation community, however, there was always a risk, and here’s why. 1. Animation professionals pick the nominations. At this stage in the Oscar race, it’s the die-hard animation pros who decide the noms. “The LEGO Movie” may have been the year’s top animated movie in the public’s eye, earning more than $257 million and placing second highest on Rotten Tomatoes’ (adjusted) best-reviewed list of 2014 with a 96% fresh rating, but that doesn’t mean it represents the kind of artistry that the industry wants to celebrate. 2. A record number of eligible toons means tougher competition. Back in 2001, when the Academy first added the best animated feature category, they wrote in a rule that in a year when fewer than 8 toons opened in theaters, the prize wouldn’t be awarded at all. In retrospect, that seems laughable, considering how the medium has boomed, resulting in an all-time high of 20 Oscar-qualifying submissions fighting for five slots in 2014. 3. Voters watch all 20 contenders, so the best rises. Unlike normal audiences (or the Academy at large, who often pick a widely-seen film to win), the animation branch is obliged to screen all eligible contenders. Each film is scored on a 10-point scale, and the five that receive the highest score go on to be nominated. That means, each toon is considered on its own merits, and for this group, technique is perhaps the most important. In other categories, nominations go to the five films that received the most first-place votes, resulting in a diversity of choices, but in this category, it’s literally the five movies the branch likes best. 4. The animation branch loves handmade movies. This is the second time popular “LEGO” directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller have been edged out of the Oscar race by a pair of tiny toons most moviegoers haven’t heard of: The same thing happened in 2009, when “Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs” got shut out in favor of a toon few had heard of, “The Secret of Kells.” While the “LEGO” team licks its wounds, the folks no doubt celebrating today are New York-based indie distributor GKids, who released two of the nominees: “Song of the Sea” (a dazzling, highly stylized 2D toon from “Kells” helmer Tomm Moore) and “The Tale of Princess Kaguya” (a career-crowning hand-drawn beauty from Japanese animation maestro Isao Takahata). Also celebrating today is Portland-based Laika Studios (“Coraline,” “ParaNorman”), which earned its third nomination for its third feature, “The Boxtrolls.” Industry pros love stop-motion. It’s by far the most painstaking form of animation there is, whereas the computer-animated “LEGO” was cheekily designed to parody bad stop-motion. 5. Traditional forms and classical storytelling win out. “Song of the Sea,” “Princess Kaguya” and “Boxtrolls” were always going to be nominated. That left just two slots open for the remaining 17 movies. The very same reasons the general public loved “LEGO” — its jokey tone, quick pace and irreverent sensibility — probably worked against it with that group. After all, how often does that kind of movie get rewarded in other Oscar categories? By contrast, “Big Hero 6” and “How to Train Your Dragon 2” are both relatively traditional, well-told stories hailing from studios (Disney and DreamWorks, respectively) with a long tradition of Oscar support. “LEGO” fans shouldn’t conclude that the Academy doesn’t like that movie; it’s just that they respected five films more.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jan 15, 2015 12:46:31 GMT -5
Yeah, I see where they're coming from but at the same time isn't it more racist to nominate people solely based on their skin color, gender, or religion? If the best of a group is all black or all white, does it really matter? They're the best, they should be nominated. I mean, Oyelowo should probably have been nominated (I haven't seen the film so can't really comment, more going based on the 99% on RT) so I can see the issue there. Idk, it's a tough call and you're never going to make everyone happy. It's like the morons who said "12 Years a Slave" only won because people don't want to be racist. Very untrue, it won because it was the best film of last year and deserved to win regardless of its content. I want to see the most deserving people nominated, that's all that should matter. Yeah, but is it fair that white pandering biopic bullshit like The Imitation Game and The Theory of Everything get tons of nominations without even trying while similarly "inspiring" and "important" black biopics like Selma needs to sweat and struggle just to get two nominations? I do think that Selma's problems were more the result of campaign mismanagement than overt racism, but it is telling that it needed to try twice as hard to get less of a result. No it isn't fair, you're definitely on the money. I haven't seen any of the three films you mentioned, but of them "Selma" has garnered considerably better reviews and should be the one racking up nominations. Does anyone know the demographics of the committee? I'm just curious if it's like 90% white male or if it's slightly diverse.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jan 15, 2015 12:51:11 GMT -5
And yes, "The Lego Movie", "Nightcrawler", and "Gone Girl" all got screwed royally. "The Boxtrolls"? "The Theory of Everything"? God dammit, the Academy is so, so out of touch.
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Post by Knerys on Jan 15, 2015 12:56:47 GMT -5
Well clearly the real outrage should the absence of The Lego Movie. variety.com/2015/film/news/oscar-snub-lego-movie-best-animation-12014059565 Reasons Why the Academy Overlooked ‘The LEGO Movie’It’s the morning that the Academy announces its Oscar nominations, and “The LEGO Movie” is on the ballot. No surprise, right? Wrong. Thing is, “LEGO” landed just one mention — in the song category for its infectious “Everything Is Awesome” anthem — but not in the animated feature category, where many were predicting that the toon blockbuster might win. That oversight comes as a total shock to Oscar pundits — arguably the year’s biggest snub, alongside the fact that “Selma” placed in only two categories (for which theories abound). From the point of view of the animation community, however, there was always a risk, and here’s why. 1. Animation professionals pick the nominations. At this stage in the Oscar race, it’s the die-hard animation pros who decide the noms. “The LEGO Movie” may have been the year’s top animated movie in the public’s eye, earning more than $257 million and placing second highest on Rotten Tomatoes’ (adjusted) best-reviewed list of 2014 with a 96% fresh rating, but that doesn’t mean it represents the kind of artistry that the industry wants to celebrate. 2. A record number of eligible toons means tougher competition. Back in 2001, when the Academy first added the best animated feature category, they wrote in a rule that in a year when fewer than 8 toons opened in theaters, the prize wouldn’t be awarded at all. In retrospect, that seems laughable, considering how the medium has boomed, resulting in an all-time high of 20 Oscar-qualifying submissions fighting for five slots in 2014. 3. Voters watch all 20 contenders, so the best rises. Unlike normal audiences (or the Academy at large, who often pick a widely-seen film to win), the animation branch is obliged to screen all eligible contenders. Each film is scored on a 10-point scale, and the five that receive the highest score go on to be nominated. That means, each toon is considered on its own merits, and for this group, technique is perhaps the most important. In other categories, nominations go to the five films that received the most first-place votes, resulting in a diversity of choices, but in this category, it’s literally the five movies the branch likes best. 4. The animation branch loves handmade movies. This is the second time popular “LEGO” directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller have been edged out of the Oscar race by a pair of tiny toons most moviegoers haven’t heard of: The same thing happened in 2009, when “Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs” got shut out in favor of a toon few had heard of, “The Secret of Kells.” While the “LEGO” team licks its wounds, the folks no doubt celebrating today are New York-based indie distributor GKids, who released two of the nominees: “Song of the Sea” (a dazzling, highly stylized 2D toon from “Kells” helmer Tomm Moore) and “The Tale of Princess Kaguya” (a career-crowning hand-drawn beauty from Japanese animation maestro Isao Takahata). Also celebrating today is Portland-based Laika Studios (“Coraline,” “ParaNorman”), which earned its third nomination for its third feature, “The Boxtrolls.” Industry pros love stop-motion. It’s by far the most painstaking form of animation there is, whereas the computer-animated “LEGO” was cheekily designed to parody bad stop-motion. 5. Traditional forms and classical storytelling win out. “Song of the Sea,” “Princess Kaguya” and “Boxtrolls” were always going to be nominated. That left just two slots open for the remaining 17 movies. The very same reasons the general public loved “LEGO” — its jokey tone, quick pace and irreverent sensibility — probably worked against it with that group. After all, how often does that kind of movie get rewarded in other Oscar categories? By contrast, “Big Hero 6” and “How to Train Your Dragon 2” are both relatively traditional, well-told stories hailing from studios (Disney and DreamWorks, respectively) with a long tradition of Oscar support. “LEGO” fans shouldn’t conclude that the Academy doesn’t like that movie; it’s just that they respected five films more. Informative, but I was joking, NE. I liked Lego Movie, but didn't love it like the majority of people.
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Post by Neverending on Jan 15, 2015 12:59:56 GMT -5
I liked Lego Movie, but didn't love it like the majority of people. I didn't love it either.
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