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Post by Neverending on Jun 5, 2017 14:05:55 GMT -5
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Post by EdReedFan20 on Jun 14, 2017 20:07:39 GMT -5
I'm trying to figure out of this is a plot hole or not (I will spoiler this, in case people still want to see the movie that haven't yet): In the movie, we discover that Carina Smith is actually the daughter of Barbossa. When this is revealed, Jack Sparrow is well aware of who the mother is. It's made to seem like it's someone they both knew well. However, Carina has to be (at least close to) Henry's age. Henry was conceived at the end of At World's End. Also at the end of the movie was Jack and Gibbs being left behind with Barbossa taking the Black Pearl as his own. Carina had to have been conceived after this time. I'm curious as to how Jack knew who the mother was. Perhaps the time gap between Henry's conception and Jack being left behind was longer than the movie led us to believe. Sure, the woman could've been someone from the time before the mutiny from Curse of the Black Pearl, but unless that woman was very young back then, it seems unlikely that she would be young enough anymore to give birth to Carina. Yes, I am over thinking this. But, it sort of feels like a plot hole. |
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Post by Neverending on Jun 14, 2017 23:35:55 GMT -5
I'm trying to figure out of this is a plot hole or not (I will spoiler this, in case people still want to see the movie that haven't yet): In the movie, we discover that Carina Smith is actually the daughter of Barbossa. When this is revealed, Jack Sparrow is well aware of who the mother is. It's made to seem like it's someone they both knew well. However, Carina has to be (at least close to) Henry's age. Henry was conceived at the end of At World's End. Also at the end of the movie was Jack and Gibbs being left behind with Barbossa taking the Black Pearl as his own. Carina had to have been conceived after this time. I'm curious as to how Jack knew who the mother was. Perhaps the time gap between Henry's conception and Jack being left behind was longer than the movie led us to believe. Sure, the woman could've been someone from the time before the mutiny from Curse of the Black Pearl, but unless that woman was very young back then, it seems unlikely that she would be young enough anymore to give birth to Carina. Yes, I am over thinking this. But, it sort of feels like a plot hole. Carina Smith is older than Henry. They simply fucked up the casting. The guy who plays Henry is 28-years-old. |
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Post by EdReedFan20 on Jun 15, 2017 17:33:42 GMT -5
I'm trying to figure out of this is a plot hole or not (I will spoiler this, in case people still want to see the movie that haven't yet): In the movie, we discover that Carina Smith is actually the daughter of Barbossa. When this is revealed, Jack Sparrow is well aware of who the mother is. It's made to seem like it's someone they both knew well. However, Carina has to be (at least close to) Henry's age. Henry was conceived at the end of At World's End. Also at the end of the movie was Jack and Gibbs being left behind with Barbossa taking the Black Pearl as his own. Carina had to have been conceived after this time. I'm curious as to how Jack knew who the mother was. Perhaps the time gap between Henry's conception and Jack being left behind was longer than the movie led us to believe. Sure, the woman could've been someone from the time before the mutiny from Curse of the Black Pearl, but unless that woman was very young back then, it seems unlikely that she would be young enough anymore to give birth to Carina. Yes, I am over thinking this. But, it sort of feels like a plot hole. Carina Smith is older than Henry. They simply fucked up the casting. The guy who plays Henry is 28-years-old. And she (the actress) is like 24 or 25, so that makes that stranger. Also, I think she'd still need to be a bit older than she seems to be in the movie if her mother was indeed someone that Jack would've known from his past. It would've worked better if Jack simply figured out Carina's parentage instead of her apparently being a woman he and Barbossa knew back when (I assume) Jack was Captain and Barbossa was still his first-mate. Going by what information is available, the majority of DMTNT takes place about 28-30 years after the mutiny. Though, I suppose she could've been born any time during that 10 year period following the mutiny. Or maybe Henry just likes em' older ;p |
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Post by Neverending on Jun 16, 2017 1:47:28 GMT -5
Carina Smith is older than Henry. They simply fucked up the casting. The guy who plays Henry is 28-years-old. And she (the actress) is like 24 or 25, so that makes that stranger. Also, I think she'd still need to be a bit older than she seems to be in the movie if her mother was indeed someone that Jack would've known from his past. It would've worked better if Jack simply figured out Carina's parentage instead of her apparently being a woman he and Barbossa knew back when (I assume) Jack was Captain and Barbossa was still his first-mate. Going by what information is available, the majority of DMTNT takes place about 28-30 years after the mutiny. Though, I suppose she could've been born any time during that 10 year period following the mutiny. Or maybe Henry just likes em' older ;p She could be 30. |
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Post by Doomsday on Jun 16, 2017 15:40:10 GMT -5
You guys are thinking way, way too much into this. Here's how the actual conversation went.
POTC writer: Wait, wouldn't the ages of the Henry and Carina be a little off? After all, Carina is Barbosa's daughter and At World's End took place...
Disney: Who gives a shit?
The end.
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Post by IanTheCool on Jun 17, 2017 8:06:09 GMT -5
This was half a good movie and half a really bad movie. I actually quite liked the general story, and there were some really inventive action scenes, like the guillotine and the bank. But Jack Sparrow has become a ridiculous parody of himself, and the first act has some really awkward directing and some poor lines of dialogue and plot contrivances. It did pick up in the last act however, and I walked away having a decent time.
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Post by IanTheCool on Jun 18, 2017 9:54:31 GMT -5
I'm trying to figure out of this is a plot hole or not (I will spoiler this, in case people still want to see the movie that haven't yet): In the movie, we discover that Carina Smith is actually the daughter of Barbossa. When this is revealed, Jack Sparrow is well aware of who the mother is. It's made to seem like it's someone they both knew well. However, Carina has to be (at least close to) Henry's age. Henry was conceived at the end of At World's End. Also at the end of the movie was Jack and Gibbs being left behind with Barbossa taking the Black Pearl as his own. Carina had to have been conceived after this time. I'm curious as to how Jack knew who the mother was. Perhaps the time gap between Henry's conception and Jack being left behind was longer than the movie led us to believe. Sure, the woman could've been someone from the time before the mutiny from Curse of the Black Pearl, but unless that woman was very young back then, it seems unlikely that she would be young enough anymore to give birth to Carina. Yes, I am over thinking this. But, it sort of feels like a plot hole. Also there's the fact that Jack giving up the compass frees the bad guys, but I'm pretty sure he has lost the compass in other films? |
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