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Post by John on Dec 5, 2014 12:38:25 GMT -5
I don't agree with any of the article, other than as Knerys said the shower sex scene being a bit out of place... but then again it's really not, this is James Bond after all. This might be a poor word choice after referencing Bond kind of raping a woman in the shower, but this series is fantasy. It's not real life, nor was it really ever meant to be seen as such until the last few films (to an extent).
How about they just make Bond 25 about Jane Bond and call it a day? Why wasn't there a man in the main cast of Bridesmaids? I realize that most action heroes are men and women tend to take a back seat, and I'm generally against that type of discrimination in film. I like Black Widow in the Marvel films and I'm excited to see Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman in the next few years. I also really liked Buffy the Vampire Slayer, many of the women characters on shows like 'Mad Men', 'Breaking Bad', and 'Game of Thrones'. All portray really strong female characters, and that's awesome.
But this is James Bond, a character with 50 years of history on the silver screen. I'm not looking for a progressive Bond, I'm looking for the best Bond. Casino Royale was apparently really liked by the author, I loved it and consider it to maybe be the best Bond film yet. The writer didn't like Skyfall, and I also consider that to be among the series best. I think the writer is a little too concerned with something being quote unquote "PC" rather than just a quality story. Why criticize the Craig films that have been largely pretty favorable to women? Does she want the series to return to the Roger Moore standards where women are just there for having sex with the dinosaur Rogersaurus and nothing else?
I'm all for equal rights and women's rights and all that fun stuff, but this is too far.
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Post by Knerys on Dec 5, 2014 13:21:07 GMT -5
It's the "strong female" complex. Women in film must be strong, sassy and capable (read: no flaws) or they're being marginalized.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Dec 5, 2014 14:33:04 GMT -5
I'm just happy Monica Bellucci is finally in a Bond film. She's probably the bad guys girlfriend or something. I would have preferred her as the actual Bond girl instead of the chick who could be Daniel Craig's daughter. If she's dressed anything similar or even more revealing than "The Matrix Reloaded" I will be a happy man. She is the MILF to rule them all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 14:59:38 GMT -5
Even that's an understatement.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 5, 2014 17:03:00 GMT -5
If she's dressed anything similar or even more revealing than "The Matrix Reloaded" I will be a happy man. Even that's an understatement. The fact that she could have been a Bond girl in the Pierce Brosnan era speaks to her longevity.
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Post by Jibbs on Dec 5, 2014 19:07:59 GMT -5
Didn't they in fact make Monnypenny a stronger character? Before she was just a secretary, now she's one with a military background.
And as for M, would it only be non-sexist if M was a woman for the rest of time? No. Now M's a man.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 5, 2014 22:08:07 GMT -5
James Bond used to rape people. The franchise has made progress.
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Post by Jibbs on Dec 5, 2014 22:50:50 GMT -5
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Post by Neverending on Dec 5, 2014 23:05:19 GMT -5
Sean Connery is not the most popular James Bond among women. He slapped Tanya around. He told Dinx to go away because of "man talk." He raped at least two or three women. He got at least 7 women killed.
But I would say Roger Moore smacking Maud Adams around is the most shocking. I can "forgive" Connery because it was the 1960's but Moore did that shit in 1974. And the year before he raped Jane Seymour's character in Live and Let Die.
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Post by Doomsday on Dec 6, 2014 10:25:58 GMT -5
For the record, Connery didn't REALLY rape those women.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 6, 2014 13:59:15 GMT -5
For the record, Connery didn't REALLY rape those women. 1. The barnyard scene in Goldfinger. 2. The nurse in Thunderball. 3. The Japanese "sex workers" in YOLT.
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Post by Doomsday on Dec 6, 2014 14:11:07 GMT -5
.....nevermind.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 8, 2014 12:33:18 GMT -5
Sam Mendes told reporters that a singer for the new Bond song has been chosen, but they're not ready to reveal who it is yet.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 8, 2014 12:34:22 GMT -5
Oh... and
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Post by Doomsday on Dec 8, 2014 12:37:26 GMT -5
They should have Daniel Craig sing the theme song. Nobody would see that coming.
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Post by FShuttari on Dec 8, 2014 12:52:05 GMT -5
while whistling...
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Post by Neverending on Dec 8, 2014 13:17:34 GMT -5
British pop singer, Sam Smith, has been rumored for a long time.
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Post by Deexan on Dec 9, 2014 7:03:44 GMT -5
Ugh.
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Post by Knerys on Dec 9, 2014 12:53:09 GMT -5
I've only heard one song of his...but I liked it. *shrug*
I'll have to think about other potentials.
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Post by Deexan on Dec 9, 2014 13:44:00 GMT -5
I'll give him 'Safe With Me' but everything else he's done has been shrug-worthy.
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Post by Knerys on Dec 9, 2014 14:01:03 GMT -5
I will say his sound doesn't strike me as Bond-ish. But that's never stopped them before. I'm all for a Shirley Bassey revival.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 9, 2014 16:32:28 GMT -5
I will say his sound doesn't strike me as Bond-ish. This is the franchise that gave us Madonna techno music.
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Post by Knerys on Dec 9, 2014 17:03:42 GMT -5
Did you read my entire post or did you just stop after the first sentence?
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Post by FShuttari on Dec 9, 2014 17:06:32 GMT -5
I have no idea who this person is. Skyfall soundtrack was amazing though!
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Post by FShuttari on Dec 9, 2014 17:07:21 GMT -5
I have no idea who this person is. Skyfall soundtrack was amazing though!
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