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Post by Neverending on Feb 22, 2017 18:52:18 GMT -5
After 12 years, Brad Grey has left Paramount. Word is he got fired because Martin Scorsese's Silence was a gigantic flop. Can you imagine getting fired over a Scorsese movie? Scorsese's next movie will be made/distributed through Netflix. If this isn't the final nail in the coffin, then I don't know what is. Paramount didn't even have a terrible year. They made Arrival and Fences, two movies nominated for Best Picture at the Academy Awards. That is in addition to Silence and Florence Foster Jenkins, two critically acclaimed movies. Problem is, these movies don't make money. Arrival did OKAY but it isn't paying the bills. The future is Netflix, Amazon, etc. Theaters are in the blockbuster business. Get used to it, folks. The days when Titanic and As Good As It Gets can co-exist are LONG gone.
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Post by Doomsday on Feb 22, 2017 18:56:36 GMT -5
They're going to go the way of Warner Bros. with big, costly, retarded movies that are meant to be massive tentpoles. The problem is for every Man of Steel you get a few In the Heart of the Oceans and Jupiter Ascendings.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 22, 2017 18:59:45 GMT -5
They're going to go the way of Warner Bros. with big, costly, retarded movies that are meant to be massive tentpoles. The problem is for every Man of Steel you get a few In the Heart of the Oceans and Jupiter Ascendings. Warner Brothers kind of killed it last year, they were the second most successful studio after Disney. |
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Post by Doomsday on Feb 22, 2017 19:09:10 GMT -5
Sure, when they hit they hit. Unfortunately that's not always the case.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 22, 2017 20:07:21 GMT -5
They're going to go the way of Warner Bros. with big, costly, retarded movies that are meant to be massive tentpoles. The problem is for every Man of Steel you get a few In the Heart of the Oceans and Jupiter Ascendings. Warner Brothers kind of killed it last year, they were the second most successful studio after Disney. Not really. Batman vs Superman and Suicide Squad didn't make a profit at the box office. They relied merchandise to make money. So even the Jupiter Ascending's aren't a guarantee anymore. There needs to be a brand attached to the movie. |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Feb 22, 2017 20:34:24 GMT -5
Silence flopped because there was no marketing for it and because the faith based crowd is only interested in pandering bullshit to fit their agendas, not films that actually raise questions and adult discussions about faith like Silence. It's Martin Scorsese, at this point anyone should be honored to make a film with him regardless of how it performs at the box office. Just another example of the higher ups not having a clue.
So yes, I am blaming Trump's voter base for this and I'm okay with this.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 22, 2017 20:57:01 GMT -5
I wish I lived in a world where Silence was likely to be a good investment, but I'm not exactly shocked that it didn't make money. If anyone greenlit that expecting it to be a blockbuster they were delusional.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 22, 2017 21:22:38 GMT -5
I wish I lived in a world where Silence was likely to be a good investment, but I'm not exactly shocked that it didn't make money. If anyone greenlit that expecting it to be a blockbuster they were delusional. No one expected it to be a blockbuster, but it could have made money. The Aviator, The Departed, Shutter Island and The Wolf of Wall Street made over $100 million domestically. Silence made $7 million. |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Feb 22, 2017 21:52:27 GMT -5
Paramount is to blame. No marketing, mustered up only one Oscar nod in a weak movie year proving they put no time in promoting it to the Academy either. I'm not saying it was the best film of the year, but no one should be losing their job over it not performing at the box office. Maybe over their total lack of handling the film correctly but like Dracula said who thought this was gonna be a solid hit? I don't think Scorsese even felt that way, it's just a film he wanted to make.
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Post by thebtskink on Feb 22, 2017 22:20:44 GMT -5
If you gave me any studio, I'm not sure I could name 3 movies off the top of my head that they released in the past couple years, without using Google.
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Post by Jibbs on Feb 22, 2017 22:57:00 GMT -5
If you gave me any studio, I'm not sure I could name 3 movies off the top of my head that they released in the past couple years, without using Google. Marvel. |
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Post by Dracula on Feb 22, 2017 22:58:49 GMT -5
If you gave me any studio, I'm not sure I could name 3 movies off the top of my head that they released in the past couple years, without using Google. Disney |
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Post by thebtskink on Feb 22, 2017 23:02:13 GMT -5
I hate you both.
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Post by Deexan on Feb 23, 2017 7:32:03 GMT -5
Welcome to episode #97 in our 'Cinema Is Dead' series, entitled: 'No, this time we mean it. It's over. Finito. Kaput.'
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Post by Jibbs on Feb 23, 2017 9:29:28 GMT -5
I'm sorry, all I can think when I see this thread is that it should be called "It's paramount that cinema is dead."
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Post by Neverending on Feb 23, 2017 9:35:04 GMT -5
Welcome to episode #97 in our 'Cinema Is Dead' series, entitled: 'No, this time we mean it. It's over. Finito. Kaput.' Even Christopher Nolan's movies are getting shitty. |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Feb 23, 2017 10:54:08 GMT -5
Welcome to episode #97 in our 'Cinema Is Dead' series, entitled: 'No, this time we mean it. It's over. Finito. Kaput.' Even Christopher Nolan's movies are getting shitty. Now you're just spreading alternative facts. |
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jun 22, 2023 21:48:05 GMT -5
Somehow my gut tells me this is the fault of that Snake Eyes GI Joe spin-off they did.
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Post by Neverending on Jun 23, 2023 1:58:02 GMT -5
Somehow my gut tells me this is the fault of that Snake Eyes GI Joe spin-off they did. Netflix might buy the library, similar to Turner buying MGM library in the 80’s, so Paramount might have the funds to make more Snake Eye movies. |
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jun 23, 2023 2:56:50 GMT -5
Somehow my gut tells me this is the fault of that Snake Eyes GI Joe spin-off they did. Netflix might buy the library, similar to Turner buying MGM library in the 80’s, so Paramount might have the funds to make more Snake Eye movies. All I want is Samara Weaving back as Scarlett. The rest of that movie can rot. Hell, all I want is Samara Weaving. Let's keep it simple. |
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