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Post by Doomsday on Sept 21, 2015 1:05:46 GMT -5
Black Mass
Johnny Depp is James 'Whitey' Bulger in what has been hailed as his comeback film. After such missteps as The Rum Diary, Dark Shadows, Mortdecai and The Lone Ranger, Depp obviously has realized that 'Starring Johnny Depp' doesn't automatically mean financial and critical acclaim anymore. People want to see him do something other than act weird in a movie that looks halfway entertaining. Black Mass probably seemed like a safe bet which it is. It's a straightforward biopic on the life of Whitey Bulger, leader of the Winter Hill Gang in Boston who turned FBI informant and later was one of the most wanted fugitives in US history. That doesn't sound like a movie that would break new ground and it's not. It's a film that violently goes from point A to point B in predictable yet entertaining fashion. The real credit for this movie goes to the cast. From Depp on down everyone here pulls a very strong performance with Johnny Depp all but securing another Best Actor nomination come January. Black Mass isn't a movie that's going to change your life nor does it do anything to take the gangster genre in another direction, however it's a good and worthy companion in the history of one of America's most infamous criminals.
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Post by Seakazoo on Sept 21, 2015 18:41:37 GMT -5
I can't wait to see this. BF and I are going to check it out tomorrow. I'll update with my thoughts on it sometime this week.
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Post by frankyt on Sept 21, 2015 20:12:34 GMT -5
I must be the only person that has zero interest in seeing this movie. Maybe one day on TNT.
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Post by Jibbs on Sept 21, 2015 20:26:52 GMT -5
You, me, Dracula...
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Post by Ramplate on Sept 21, 2015 20:47:25 GMT -5
No interest here either
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Post by Doomsday on Sept 22, 2015 10:09:07 GMT -5
Same.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Sept 22, 2015 10:33:01 GMT -5
This is the prequel to The Departed right? Like Episode I?
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Post by Ramplate on Sept 22, 2015 11:01:50 GMT -5
This is the prequel to The Departed right? Like Episode I? No, this is Whitey Bolger's story, The Departed is just a drama with two characters based on Whitey Bolger from Infernal Affairs by Alan Mak, Felix Chong
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Sept 22, 2015 11:16:27 GMT -5
I know, I was joking.
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Post by Ramplate on Sept 22, 2015 11:35:36 GMT -5
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Sept 22, 2015 11:39:40 GMT -5
I'll just use pictures of Jar Jar from now on.
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Post by Doomsday on Sept 22, 2015 11:48:17 GMT -5
You can't be serious. You're really going to use pictures of Jar-Jar Binks? It's a tired reference, Sno.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Sept 22, 2015 12:16:56 GMT -5
Psssh, like I'm gonna use that hack Yoda instead. Carry me in a backpack, do this, do that. Some Jedi he was...
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Post by Seakazoo on Sept 22, 2015 12:23:05 GMT -5
This thread derailed quickly
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Post by Ramplate on Sept 22, 2015 12:29:29 GMT -5
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Post by Doomsday on Sept 22, 2015 13:01:15 GMT -5
Psssh, like I'm gonna use that hack Yoda instead. Carry me in a backpack, do this, do that. Some Jedi he was... Wait, are you not serious? You didn't use any emojis so I had no idea.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Sept 22, 2015 15:22:47 GMT -5
Psssh, like I'm gonna use that hack Yoda instead. Carry me in a backpack, do this, do that. Some Jedi he was... Wait, are you not serious? You didn't use any emojis so I had no idea. is this the Jar Jar you're looking for?
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Post by Jibbs on Sept 22, 2015 20:04:43 GMT -5
Don't sweat it, Sno, I knew you were kidding. I also appreciate humor without obvious "I'm joking" suffixes that ruin the joke.
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Post by Fanible on Sept 22, 2015 21:31:38 GMT -5
Should have kept going with it. The moment you admit you are kidding, it's ruined. I would have started asking Ramplate questions.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Sept 24, 2015 13:45:50 GMT -5
Should have kept going with it. The moment you admit you are kidding, it's ruined. I would have started asking Ramplate questions. Boston? What's that, a planet?
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I love Lamp.
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Post by filmjerk on Sept 24, 2015 19:10:54 GMT -5
Entertaining movie. Lots of death. Depp is awesome. Edgerton holds his own. Definitely see nominations for both of them. I felt like I was watching The Departed
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Post by Doomsday on Sept 24, 2015 19:15:33 GMT -5
I think Edgerton played it solidly because he didn't go overboard. It was a role ripe for overdoing it and he walked that line very well.
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Post by PG Cooper on Sept 26, 2015 21:38:11 GMT -5
In 2009, Michael Mann’s crime film Public Enemies was met with complete indifference from critics and audiences. Personally, I quite like the film, which is stylish, well-made, and features a great turn from Johnny Depp. The film received some solid reviews, but was mostly forgotten and Depp’s performance as John Dillinger taken for granted. Six years later and Depp’s performance as real life gangster Whitey Bulger in Black Mass is being touted as a major work form the veteran actor. What’s the difference? In a word; timing. While Michael Mann’s film was released at a time when Depp was still taking varied roles from films like Sweeney Todd to Finding Neverland, Black Mass comes after a string of disasters like The Lone Ranger, Transcendence, and Mortdecai, where Depp got by on simply being eccentric and strange. To switch from those types of roles to one where he plays a violent and vicious criminal is now a big deal in a way it wasn’t in 2009.
The film’s plot kicks off in 1975 following small-time Boston hood James “Whitey” Bulger (Johnny Depp), who leads his own gang. Whitey is contacted by John Connelly (Joel Edgerton), a former friend turned FBI agent who wishes to form an alliance with Whitey, who will feed the feds information in return for protection. Whitey agrees, and with that basis begins to build his own criminal empire.
The narrative here follows your typical crime film structure. A gangster starts out small in his neighborhood, moves his way up, hits a peak, and finally meets their downfall. Black Mass fits this template and, while the film is competently put together, Scott Cooper doesn’t inject the film with any style or energy to help it stand out. In particular, Black Mass is really trapped in the shadow of Martin Scorsese. The more blue collar crime feel is very similar to Goodfellas, and Whitey’s moments of unpredictable violence echo Joe Pesci’s character in that seminal film. However the real Scorsese film Black Mass suffers from by comparison is The Departed. Both films share a Boston setting, Irish culture, animosity with Italian rivals, themes of deception, and the villain in The Departed is even loosely based on the real Bulger. Scorsese’s film nails all of these elements so seamlessly that Black Mass just feels like a half-hearted retread.
Even beyond its comparisons to similar films, I don’t think Black Mass works very well. The film is meant to show Whitey’s rise as a gang-lord, but we don’t really get a sense of that. The film starts with Whitey as a low level gangster, and then after teaming up with Connelly the film cuts forward and we’re told Whitey’s has become a bigger fish. Not actually seeing the transition robs the film of some satisfying material. The film never really pays off on Whitey using the FBI to take out his own competition. That’s a big part of what made Bulger unique and all we get here are a few minor scenes depicting that process. The narrative is also compromised by a flawed framing device where the story is told through the confessional tapes of Whitey’s associates years after the fact. This tactic adds nothing since their own perspective on the events is irrelevant. The film doesn’t function as a very effective character study either. For all the hype surrounding Johnny Depp’s performance, Whitey Bulger is not all that interesting a character. We learn that he’s a vicious and violent gangster, but there isn’t much else there. That wouldn’t really matter if the narrative surrounding Bulger was strong, but it isn’t/
Of course, that brings me to the big reason Black Mass has received so much attention; Johnny Depp’s performance. Well, it’s good, in fact it’s almost certainly the best turn he’s given since Public Enemies. Depp is still covered in a lot of make-up and playing a somewhat over-the-top character, but he succeeds due to some smart choices in Whitey’s mannerisms and his voice. He’s a threatening premise and Depp is also entertaining to watch. Is it a brilliant return to the complex and unique reals he used to take? Not really, but it’s certainly a step in the right direction, and fun in its own right. The supporting cast is full of recognizable faces, but none of them really shine. The possible exception to this is Joel Edgerton, who sneaks into the role of John Connelly well and avoids overplaying the character.
Black Mass is a competently crafted film, it features a memorable turn from Johnny Depp, and it even has a few nicely staged sequences. Unfortunately, that’s not enough for a film like this. Put it simply, there are way too many similar crime films which execute at the highest level for something like this to really register. That may not be entirely fair, but truth be told Black Mass is also a pretty flawed work even when removed from comparison. It’s not a terrible film by any means, but it isn’t very substantial or interesting either.
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