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Post by Deexan on Mar 14, 2015 22:07:20 GMT -5
What is the general consensus in the US when it comes to this guy? From actual music lovers, I mean. Not the mass populace. I haven't heard a lot of his past work but I noticed he recently equaled the Beatles' record of having 14 tracks in the billboard top 100 at the same time (not that that means anything these days) so he must be having a considerable effect on a mass audience, which I was surprised by due to the fact that the tracks I have heard from him have been quite moody, well-produced and not that commercial. Is it a case of the general public having some taste for a change? I was a big fan of Take Care and, having listened to his latest album, I think he has an excellent producer(s). Also, whenever I hear his name I think of this: Which is hilarious in of itself.
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1. He's Canadian. 2. He was the wheelchair boy on Degrassi. 3. Girls LOVE him, hence the Billboard success. 4. People mock him on the Internet. Google Drake memes. 5. He had sex with Rihanna and probably Nicki Minaj.
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Post by Deexan on Mar 14, 2015 22:25:22 GMT -5
Thanks for the facts, I want to know what you think of his music though.
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What you think of his music though. It's girl music. I don't think I've met a guy who likes Drake. His fan base is almost exclusively female. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just difficult to get into Drake when there's music like this on the radio:
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Post by Deexan on Mar 14, 2015 23:27:13 GMT -5
I'm the biggest fan of Uptown Funk you'll meet, and I absolutely love the fact that the British public has made that track number one and embraced it. It gives me hope.
Mark Ronson is a one of a kind in the current pop music plane.
Bruno is incredible talented, too.
I'm surprised by your Drake comments though.
His production values are stellar, second maybe only to Kanye's. And his content and lyrics have a lot to admire. Any rapper that disowns and attempts to distance himself from the bling/bitches/gangsta stereotype gets a pass from me.
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Post by Deexan on Mar 14, 2015 23:29:38 GMT -5
I'd also say that Uptown Funk is very derivative, in the most complimentary way. Ronson is good, but he has one particular style and he sticks to it.
Drake isn't a particularly good rapper, nor a particular good singer, but he is competent at both and has a unique way with words. I think he owes a lot to whoever produces his tracks.
So i guess he has no respect amongst genuine hip-hop fans? Interesting, seeing as he refers to himself as the successor of Lil Wayne (a rapper I never much cared for).
Give me Joe Budden and Akala any day of the week.
I would urge any rap fan to listen to this, not just for ability but the importance of the lyrics:
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Any rapper that disowns and attempts to distance himself from the bling/bitches/gangsta stereotype gets a pass from me. He's a Canadian TV actor. It was either do Will Smith or do this:
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Post by Deexan on Mar 15, 2015 0:26:09 GMT -5
Yeah but who would buy that smith was ever a part of that environment? No-one. And him as his people knew that.
He and Drake are incomparable.
I see a lot of parallels with Drake and Kanye, their celebrity status is tainted but if you put all that to the side, the music they are making is of a very high quality, and that's all that should matter, ultimately.
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Post by Deexan on Mar 15, 2015 0:34:15 GMT -5
BTW, LL Cool had some great tracks and was an awesome counterweight to the aggression of the late 80s/early 90s gangsta rap, but I don't think he's an all-time great. I'd daresay he doesn't even rap in the common fashion, he has a soulful voice and talks over laidback beats but his flow is nothing special. If you have videos to counter that I'd be happy to see/hear them.
Compared to this guy, for example, there's an epic gap in ability, message and importance (Important artists thread idea?):
I'd agree with LL's comparison with Smith, though. He just didn't have the sitcom and charisma to achieve the same results.
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I'm aware of Sir Francis Drake. What is the take on him?
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Post by Dracula on Mar 16, 2015 14:56:43 GMT -5
What you think of his music though. It's girl music. I don't think I've met a guy who likes Drake. His fan base is almost exclusively female. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just difficult to get into Drake when there's music like this on the radio: Plenty of men like Drake, they just claim to be indifferent about him because the internet consensus is that he's softer than a silk pillow. That line he had about all the girls buying his album for the picture and all the men buying it too and saying they got it for their sisters proved to be accurate... that and his music falls into a strange middleground where it's not hard enough for the core rap fanbase but also too pop for the music critic types.
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DraculaI'm sure there's guys who like Drake, but I've never met one. Unless there's closet fans roaming around. Regardless... his fans are mostly girls. That's his bread and butter and the source of his mega success. But I gotta give the guy credit. Beyonce and him are the only people who released a secret album and had it top the iTunes chart.
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Post by frankyt on Mar 20, 2015 9:57:21 GMT -5
Trap artists love Drake. I have a lot of remixes on my soundcloud of his songs, some of them are absurdly good.
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Post by Deexan on Mar 20, 2015 21:12:18 GMT -5
DraculaI'm sure there's guys who like Drake, but I've never met one. This is surely a ridiculous exaggeration. If you showed somebody this track blind who was in to hip-hop I fail to see how they wouldn't like it: Would you reject it because of the artist's past? If so, at what point are you willing to accept the fact that he's evolved or moved on?
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Tune of the year so far for me:
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Post by Deexan on Oct 20, 2015 3:30:35 GMT -5
I've heard so many people waxing lyrical about it for the past month or two but I didn't hear it until last week. I don't get the love.
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This song, like most of his, is meh at best.
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Post by Dracula on Nov 8, 2015 20:07:00 GMT -5
I don't understand the internet's obsession with this song and video, I really don't.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 8, 2015 20:11:51 GMT -5
I don't understand the internet's obsession with this song and video, I really don't. Deexan will break it down for you.
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I am currently breaking it down for you via the medium of contemporary dance, but as you can't see me my exploits have been rendered redundant.
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