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Post by Neverending on Mar 3, 2015 15:03:07 GMT -5
www.indiewire.com/article/edward-norton-is-fed-up-with-people-who-think-movies-arent-what-they-used-to-be-20150303I don't entirely agree, but I see where he's coming from. People always bitch about Hollywood, myself included, but they've always made great movies. You just need to look underneath all the garbage to find them. As for William Goldman, I agree that Hollywood made better movies in the aftermath of the original studio system collapsing but to say that everything went to shit when Jaws was released is ridiculous. Hollywood made some of its most innovative movies in the late 1970's.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Mar 3, 2015 15:33:16 GMT -5
Yeah I always thought the '70s were revered as the golden age of Hollywood for a number of reasons, and I agree that it didn't stop at 1975. I guess he was forgetting "Star Wars", "Close Encounters of the Third Kind", "Apocalypse Now", etc. It was a great decade because thanks to films like "Easy Rider", "Midnight Cowboy", and "Bonnie and Clyde" Hollywood reconnected with audiences that were tired of sappy musicals and dramas that dominated the '60s. Also because it opened the doors for experimental filmmaking and filmmakers (namely the big ones of Lucas, Spielberg, Coppola, Scorsese, and DePalma) to show that big budget films can be unique and interesting and don't need to be formulaic epics. The '90s are probably the next best decade for Hollywood overall, but that's highly debatable. '70s had tremendous films that were also trailblazers, so that's why it's generally the golden age.
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Post by Neverending on Mar 3, 2015 15:48:56 GMT -5
I guess he was forgetting "Star Wars", "Close Encounters of the Third Kind", "Apocalypse Now", etc. He didn't forget. A lot of people who were making movies in the 1960's think that Steven Spielberg and George Lucas ruined Hollywood. Peter Bogdanovich, for example, talked a lot of shit when Raiders of the Lost Ark was released. He said, "Spielberg and Lucas are just remaking the movies of their childhood." There's literally a book and a BBC documentary about how Jaws and Star Wars killed Hollywood. It's called Easy Riders and Raging Bulls.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Mar 3, 2015 16:48:26 GMT -5
Well that's stupid, who cares where they drew inspiration from as long as the end result is excellent? That just sounds like a bitter perspective on it to me. They revitalized Hollywood, made into what it is today for better or worse. None of those filmmakers should be ashamed that others blatantly ripped off their style, or that Hollywood has used their films as successful models. People try to imitate "The Godfather" all the time, should Coppola be blamed for an influx of similar gangster films after the film's success. Others are just mad they didn't come up these ideas themselves, Bogdanovich is a decent filmmaker with really only one major work (which is another excellent film that lends to the '70s being a golden age of cinema) so to me he's just being petty. And besides, "The Last Picture Show" is a nod to the cinema of the past, a bygone era that Bogdanovich is making an homage/goodbye to. I really, really like that film, but I'm just saying he's just being petty, petty, petty for criticizing them for essentially doing the same thing.
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Post by Neverending on Mar 27, 2019 17:03:39 GMT -5
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Mar 27, 2019 17:33:29 GMT -5
Great writeup. Really shows that movie execs are fucking morons and David Fincher is the man. Not that we didn't already know that, but it's gotta be awesome for Fincher to look back on all this and say "I told you so."
I was really young when Fight Club came out, but I remember the marketing being awful for it. It was a total shock to me when I was a teenager to watch it and find out what it really was about. So long, Fox, your stupidity over the years has resulted in you being absorbed by Disney. Well deserved.
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Post by Neverending on Mar 27, 2019 17:49:34 GMT -5
Great writeup. Really shows that movie execs are fucking morons and David Fincher is the man. Not that we didn't already know that, but it's gotta be awesome for Fincher to look back on all this and say "I told you so." I was really young when Fight Club came out, but I remember the marketing being awful for it. It was a total shock to me when I was a teenager to watch it and find out what it really was about. So long, Fox, your stupidity over the years has resulted in you being absorbed by Disney. Well deserved. I don’t even remember Fight Club getting marketed. Didn’t know the movie existed till it came out on DVD. That’s what’s so funny about 1999 being hailed as a great cinematic year. Most of the movies people love became popular later on. The “big” movies that actual year were The Matrix, The Mummy, Phantom Menace, Austin Powers, Blair Witch, Austin Powers, The Sixth Sense, American Beauty and Toy Story 2. In that order of release. In case PG Cooper wants to do a 1999 video essay.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Mar 27, 2019 18:05:05 GMT -5
Dig around for the trailer for it. It looked like, well, a fight club, and that was it.
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Post by thebtskink on Mar 27, 2019 20:04:22 GMT -5
I miss Ed Norton.
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Post by Neverending on Mar 27, 2019 20:13:08 GMT -5
Dig around for the trailer for it. It looked like, well, a fight club, and that was it. I’ve seen it. I meant I don’t recall it being marketed in actual 1999.
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