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Post by Dracula on Oct 8, 2016 17:55:06 GMT -5
Phantasm's theme song is awesome. Never seen the movie. It's alright, kind of one of those B/B- horror movies like The Omen or Scanners that has managed to get a reputation off of one really good gore scene.
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Post by thebtskink on Oct 8, 2016 18:02:27 GMT -5
My first introduction to Phantasm was watching part II with my older brother when I was 10 or so. The eeriness, dreamlike quality, and trick ending blew my young mind.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 8, 2016 23:30:06 GMT -5
31 DAYS OF HALLOWEENWAIT UNTIL DARK (1967)Some movies are more famous for their concept than their execution. Wait Until Dark is a great example. In fact, the title is almost a suggestion since nothing of significance happens till Alan Arkin and Audrey Hepburn are locked in a room together. Everything proceeding it is quite boring. Basically, a woman is smuggling drugs into the United States. She hides it in a doll, and when she notices some men following her, gives the doll to a random guy. This guy is the husband of the Audrey Hepburn character, who's blind, and later on the Alan Arkin character shows up at her home to retrieve the doll and things get more complicated than they need to be. Most movies would have done the exposition in 15 minutes and then dived into the action. Here, they DRAG it to the point you're impatiently waiting for Alan Arkin to show up and do some damage. Luckily, once that happens, they pay off is great. Audiences in 1967 were a lot more patient and this movie was a big hit. Audrey Hepburn was even nominated for an Academy Award. But today, you're probably better off watching Don't Breathe.
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Post by Nilade on Oct 9, 2016 4:34:50 GMT -5
My first introduction to Phantasm was watching part II with my older brother when I was 10 or so. The eeriness, dreamlike quality, and trick ending blew my young mind. Yeah, Phantasm II was my first introduction to the franchise at about the same age. It was such a fun and different horror film, and blew my mind as well at the time. So many unique and wtf elements, the spheres, the dwarfs, the gas mask guy, the Tall Man. It was crazy, didn't make a lot of sense, and was so much fun. I think I need to revisit this series.
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Post by Nilade on Oct 9, 2016 4:46:00 GMT -5
I knew that when I posted it. It might be his best movie. It's awesome. His best movie is Ford Fairlane the Rock n Roll Detective. Die Hard 2. Least favorite of the original trilogy, but better than Ford Fairlane.
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Post by Nilade on Oct 9, 2016 4:59:37 GMT -5
Film Five: Hellbound: Hellraiser II (1988)I never really liked the original Hellraiser that much, but there were some interesting ideas in it and for whatever reason I was curious to see more even though very few people seem to like the sequels. Hellraiser II is… well it’s certainly flawed but it was better than I expected it to be, I might have even liked it a little better than the first movie if only because it gets to the point faster. The movie certainly has more of that signature Hellraiser blood, gore, and weird sadomasochism but also adds a touch of Lovecraftian weirdness as the characters actually go into hell or whatever alternate dimension the cenobites come from. The movie’s fatal flaw (outside of its budgetary limits) is that the rules of the supernatural goings on in this movie and probably in the series as a whole makes very little sense and seems largely inconsistent. I don’t know, I’ve long thought that the Hellraiser franchise would be a good candidate for a Hollywood reboot because there are clearly ideas to be mined from it that could be executed a lot better. ** out of Five
For the love of god, don't go any further to try reviewing any of the films in this series after II. They're mostly crap, besides two weird mystery films that each have Pinhead for a collective 10 minutes. III has a lot to mock, if you're into that sort of thing. Hellbound: Hellraiser II is definitely one of those rare superior horror sequels, but the rest are garbage. Only the first two are required viewing.
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Post by Dracula on Oct 9, 2016 8:14:24 GMT -5
Film Nine: Poltergeist II: The Other Side (1986)
Second in my series on misguided horror sequels. The original Poltergeist is one of those movies that was a pretty big hit from the get-go but which has only become bigger and bigger in the years since, especially now that it is clearly one of the top five movies that influenced Super 8 and “Stranger Things.” Its sequels on the other hand… are movies that a sizable number of the original film’s fans might not even know exist. Poltergeist II actually made decent money when it came out, or at least it made back double its budget and was considered successful enough to warrant a second sequel but I feel like very few people remember or care about this movie. While the movie has close to double the budget of its predecessor it definitely has the feel of a cash in. Most of the cast has returned with the obvious exception of Dominique Dunne (who had already become the first victim of the supposed “Poltergeist Curse”) but the talent behind the camera was much different. The original Poltergeist was very much the product of the collaboration between Steven Spielberg and Tobe Hooper (despite the many efforts to deemphasize the contributions of the latter) and it’s that tension between family movie uplift and hardcore horror that made it so special. For the sequel neither Spielberg not Hooper have credits either as directors or as producers. In their place is some guy named Brian Gibson. If you’ve never heard of that guy it’s because you have little reason to. He directed What’s Love Got to Do With It and about a half dozen other movies that no one cares about and as far as I can tell none of them are horror movies and none of them have very high production values. You can tell the drop in talent because this sequel clearly seems to know the elements that people liked in the original but has none of the skill and rhythm necessary to make those elements work. The family has managed to become a whole lot less interesting this time around, in part because their character arcs were all resolved in the last movie and they had nowhere to go. There are two new characters (played by people who would be victims two and three of the supposed Poltergeist curse) who at least seem promising at first but are both kind of wasted as the film goes on. One is a creepy reverend guy who sort disappears half way through and the other is a Native American shaman and the depiction of him is… I’m not going to use the “R” word and I’m not even going to drop “problematic” because I do think everyone involved had good intentions but there’s definitely some “noble savage” stuff going on and the whole thing just seems inaccurate a weird. Then of course there’s the finale which consists of some very bad green screen effects and really an abundance of bad visual effects combined with no grasp of tone or atmosphere can be blamed for a lot of what makes the whole movie decidedly not scary. *1/2 out of Five
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 9, 2016 9:04:52 GMT -5
Day Nine: TCM Presents Silent Horror - Part OneThis Friday, TCM ran a spotlight on silent horror films from the 1920s (hosted by Ron Perlman!) and I thought it be fun to dive in! Nosferatu*Reposted from last year I first saw Nosferatu on a pretty crappy transfer and felt I owed the film a rewatch. Sure enough, this is a much better movie than I remembered. The key to the film's success are the visuals, which are clearly amazing and way ahead of their time. F.W. Murnau and his cinematographers capture some of the most striking images you'll ever see. The greatest is most certainly Orlock's shadow and it's slow descent up the stairs. There's also the rats pouring out of the coffin, Knock running through the streets, Orlock in the door way, Orlock's rigid standing up on the ship, Orlock in Ellen's room in the end...basically any scene with Orlock. It's all very striking and helps build a tangibly creepy atmosphere which never lets up. Murnau also makes use of some pretty bold editing for the time. For anyone who doesn't know, this is an unofficial retelling of Dracula and Max Schreck's Count Orlock (A.K.A Dracula) is one of the best takes on the legendary vampire. He's a horrifying creature (thanks in large part to the art direction and make-up) that silently stalks his prey, showing no mercy. This film is also the best I've seen in regards to treating Dracula as the fearsome threat that he is. One of my favourite scenes is when Orlock is preying on Hutter, and simultaneously a hypnosis is falling over Hutter's wife Ellen in another country. It's a great example of what an otherworldly and horrifying being this is. This is one of the absolute greatest silent films. It's place in film history is undisputed. This is a wildly important film which took bold risks and did a lot to advance the medium. As a work of storytelling, it's also highly effective. There's something inherently mythical about silent films that makes them akin to fables, and Nosferatu really embodies that. It's a dark and twisted nightmare which explores what we fear at the most basic level. A+The Cabinet of Dr. CaligariThe Cabinet of Dr. Caligari is a fascinating beast; a film that feels very much of its time yet also ahead of it. This fits in perfectly with the German expressionist movement of the day for example, but applying such a style to film was a largely unprecedented stroke that would go on to have deep influence. Indeed, the visuals are what people typically remember about Caligari. The sets and matte paintings depict a world of frighteningly contorted shapes; a dark and twisted reality. It doesn't exactly look "real", but it creates a disorienting atmosphere and the impression of a living nightmare. However it is not just the visuals that are exceptional, but the story too. The psychological twists may not seem that big a deal today, but I can only imagine how shocking this was for a film in 1920. It's also worth noting that the twists are not exactly clear cut. There's a certain ambiguity to the ending which becomes more haunting upon reflection. The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari is one of the cornerstones of cinematic history (horror or otherwise) and a must-see. It tells a gripping story and Robert Wienne elevates things even further through his expressionist style and chilling imagery. A+The Unholy ThreeThis movie was played during TCM's spotlight on Silent Horror, but it isn't really a horror movie. The Unholy Three is really a strange crime movie about a group of circus performers who decide to perform a heist of sorts. There are two things that give this a sort of horror vibe though. The first is Lon Chaney, an actor known for horror films, and he does give a pretty sinister performance. The second is director Tod Browning, also must known for making horror films, and he does bring a certain dark sensibility to The Unholy Three. Browning's directing is indeed really strong here. He stages scenes very well and he also utilizes some neat (if obvious) tricks in the third act involving forced perspective. There are some pretty cool scenes here, but the narrative has its share of problems. First off, the big scheme this group has seems a bit wack to me. I mean, it involves the ventriloquist imitating the sounds of parrots while in a bird shop so rich guys will buy them. Then when they get the parrot home and it doesn't take the rich call the group over to address the problem and while in the home the gang can do some thievery. Oh, and the ventriloquist is dressed like an old lady and the little person as her grandson. The film also introduces a lame love story which goes way too far in the third act and leads to a dumb ending. So yeah, the film has problems, but I do think Browning makes a lot of it work, Chaney and Harry Earles give good performances. C+
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Post by Neverending on Oct 9, 2016 17:15:51 GMT -5
My first introduction to Phantasm was watching part II with my older brother when I was 10 or so. The eeriness, dreamlike quality, and trick ending blew my young mind. Yeah, Phantasm II was my first introduction to the franchise at about the same age. It was such a fun and different horror film, and blew my mind as well at the time. So many unique and wtf elements, the spheres, the dwarfs, the gas mask guy, the Tall Man. It was crazy, didn't make a lot of sense, and was so much fun. I think I need to revisit this series. So you guys are saying Doomsday should watch Phantasm II?
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Post by thebtskink on Oct 9, 2016 18:10:09 GMT -5
Oh yeah.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 9, 2016 18:56:10 GMT -5
Doomsday , go watch Nightmare on Elm Street 4, The Adventures of Ford Fairlane and Phantasm II.
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Post by thebtskink on Oct 9, 2016 19:19:32 GMT -5
Doomsday , go watch Nightmare on Elm Street 4, The Adventures of Ford Fairlane and Phantasm II. Honeymoon planning, from us to you.
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Post by Doomsday on Oct 9, 2016 20:53:59 GMT -5
But what about Bram Stoker's Dracula and Rocky Horror??
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Post by thebtskink on Oct 9, 2016 21:00:54 GMT -5
But what about Bram Stoker's Dracula and Rocky Horror?? Pfft. Lesser movies. And add Sleepaway Camp II into the fold for your line of questioning.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 9, 2016 21:21:59 GMT -5
But what about Bram Stoker's Dracula and Rocky Horror?? But what about Bram Stoker's Dracula and Rocky Horror?? Pfft. Lesser movies. And add Sleepaway Camp II into the fold for your line of questioning. Movies for Doomsday to watch: 1. Sleepaway Camp 2. Sleepaway Camp II 3. Nightmare on Elm Street 4 4. Phantasm II 5. The Rocky Horror Picture Show 6. Bram Stoker's Dracula Then in November watch Ford Fairlane, the Rock n Roll detective.
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Post by thebtskink on Oct 9, 2016 21:26:27 GMT -5
But what about Bram Stoker's Dracula and Rocky Horror?? Pfft. Lesser movies. And add Sleepaway Camp II into the fold for your line of questioning. Movies for Doomsday to watch: 1. Sleepaway Camp 2. Sleepaway Camp II 3. Nightmare on Elm Street 4 4. Phantasm II 5. The Rocky Horror Picture Show 6. Bram Stoker's Dracula Then in November watch Ford Fairlane, the Rock n Roll detective. Such a solid list. Impenetrable.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 9, 2016 21:28:59 GMT -5
Movies for Doomsday to watch: 1. Sleepaway Camp 2. Sleepaway Camp II 3. Nightmare on Elm Street 4 4. Phantasm II 5. The Rocky Horror Picture Show 6. Bram Stoker's Dracula Then in November watch Ford Fairlane, the Rock n Roll detective. Such a solid list. Impenetrable. We did good work today.
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Post by Doomsday on Oct 9, 2016 21:29:38 GMT -5
I've watched Sleepaway Camp, I'll roll to #2....
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Post by Neverending on Oct 9, 2016 21:33:17 GMT -5
I've watched Sleepaway Camp, I'll roll to #2.... It's a VERY different movie. A lot more comedy. Lots of nudity. The villain is "funny." Might work as an alternative to the dark and violent slasher films - or you'll hate it.
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Post by thebtskink on Oct 9, 2016 21:48:21 GMT -5
I've watched Sleepaway Camp, I'll roll to #2.... It's a VERY different movie. A lot more comedy. Lots of nudity. The villain is "funny." Might work as an alternative to the dark and violent slasher films - or you'll hate it. There is overt commentary on Freddy, Jason Michael Myers, and everything that slashers were up until that point. . I think of it as the antislasher of the time. A proto-Scream with more disgusting kills.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 9, 2016 21:57:14 GMT -5
It's a VERY different movie. A lot more comedy. Lots of nudity. The villain is "funny." Might work as an alternative to the dark and violent slasher films - or you'll hate it. There is overt commentary on Freddy, Jason Michael Myers, and everything that slashers were up until that point. . I think of it as the antislasher of the time. A proto-Scream with more disgusting kills. It's Scream, but better.
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Post by thebtskink on Oct 9, 2016 22:03:27 GMT -5
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Post by Dracula on Oct 10, 2016 7:57:47 GMT -5
Film Ten: The Fury (1978)I’m not quite sure what was in the air during the late 70s and early 80s but for whatever reason audiences in that era seemed to be really freaked out about telekinetic powers at the time. The most ovious examples of this were Carrie, Scanners, and The Fury with the latter two movies being the most directly comparable as both are about people being trained by the government to be psychic assassins or something. I’m kind of surprised that Scanners has become the better known movie over the years as The Fury is a bit more action packed… actually maybe I’m not surprised, for all the dullness that plagues Scanners at points during its runtime that exploding head scene remains a marvel. The Fury also has a great gore moment in it, but it kind of lacks the x factor that made Scanners’ head explosion work so perfectly. Still I would say The Fury executes better in general, in part because it plays out like one of those paranoid post-Watergate thrillers except with an added supernatural twist and frequently plays almost more like an action movie than a horror film. As usual De Palma comes up with some clever cinematic tricks here and the film’s finale does deliver, but it’s a little bit messy getting there. Not a great movie by any means but it’s certainly interesting. ***1/2 out of five
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 10, 2016 10:12:43 GMT -5
Day Ten: TCM Presents Silent Horror - Part TwoThe Phantom of the OperaRight behind The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari and Nosferatu, The Phantom of the Opera is one of the major works of silent horror. The film is probably most well-remembered for Lon Chaney and the make-up effects used to turn him into the phantom, both of which are awesome. Chaney gives an energized performance and the make-up looks great even in 2016. The film also has a handful of amazing sequences, including an awesome moment involving a falling chandelier, Christine's journey through the Phantom's lair, and the finale. The highlight though is the masked ball where the Phantom arrives dressed as the Red Death. The scene is shot in colour and uses it to striking effect. The Phantom's red cloak looks awesome, particularly the scene where it's blowing in the wind against a black sky. The movie as a whole has a great visual style and the overall effect is mysterious and tantalizing. Awesome as parts are, it's not quite perfect. The film gets off to somewhat of an awkward start and I'm also not really sure how the mob found the Phantom's lair. Beyond that, the film does sort of lack the elegance and artistry of films like Caligari and Nosferatu. Still, this is certainly quality horror cinema and worthy of being called a classic. A-Haxan*Reposted from last year. Haxan is a pseudo documentary about Witchcraft from the early 20s, but the film is mostly remembered for it's dramatizations of witches, Satan, and all sorts of evil. That stuff is indeed the highlight of the movie. The visuals are fantastic and I can see a direct influence on silent classics Faust and The Passion of Joan of Arc. Beyond the influence though, these scenes just have really striking imagery that sticks. Unfortunately I never really cared for the overarching story exploring witchcraft and the modern manifestations of mental illness. All that material seemed totally irrelevant. With a better framing story, Haxan might well be a silent film classic. As it is though, it's still pretty good. B-The PenaltyA boy who wrongfully had his legs amputated as a child grows into a crime lord of San Francisco. The film is probably best remembered for Lon Chaney's performance which helped established him as a major actor and he indeed is pretty awesome here. He gives a really intense turn and the special effects used to turn him into an amputee are pretty effective. The film does have some really effective moments and is a fairly compelling watch, but the film ends up having a pretty dumb ending which only becomes dumber the more it's stretched out. Disappointing as that is, the movie has a certain charm that stops me from fully dismissing it. Chaney's performance goes a long way and the filmmaking is pretty solid, particularly when one considers how early this is. C+The UnknownClosing out TCM's night of silent horror is The Unknown, another film directed by Tod Browning and starring Lon Chaney dealing with the circus (like The Unholy Three) and a film where Chaney plays a supposed amputee (just like The Penalty). Specifically, Chaney plays an armless man who works with the circus and develops an obsession with a female performer. As has been the case with a lot of these movies, Chaney gives a really awesome performance. This is a very physically demanding role and Chaney also displays mastery over subtle facial expressions. It's a really great performance and Chaney brings a lot of nuance to the part. The film itself tells a pretty straightforward, but the few twists do work pretty well and Browning does a good job presenting everything. The film is a bit too short and a little lacking in substance, but its a gripping little ride with some strong moments along the way. B-
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Post by Dracula on Oct 10, 2016 10:20:35 GMT -5
I'm also not really sure how the mob found the Phantom's lair. That whole finale with the mob was a hasty reshoot after bad test screenings, you can kind of tell it's not in keeping with the rest of the movie.
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