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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 17, 2023 18:15:30 GMT -5
The movie also has Leslie Nielsen and George Carlin and those guys can usually get a chuckle or two out of me no matter what. Damn. No chuckle from David Cross and Chris Elliot?? I like Cross a lot. Loathe Chris Elliot, specifically in Scary Movie 2 and There's Something About Marry. Simply describing it.
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Post by IanTheCool on Oct 17, 2023 18:20:56 GMT -5
In my experience, titties tend to explain themselves. They don't need my help. I was more baffled by someone finding susan sarandon attractive?
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Post by frankyt on Oct 17, 2023 18:50:07 GMT -5
In my experience, titties tend to explain themselves. They don't need my help. I was more baffled by someone finding susan sarandon attractive? Y'all built different in Canada.
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Post by Dracula on Oct 17, 2023 19:55:20 GMT -5
Film Seventeen: Spirits of the Dead (1968) When I first read the description for this movie I nearly did a spit take. You mean to tell me that this whole time I’ve been alive there’s been a horror anthology film where Roger Vadim, Louis Malle, and Federico frickin’ Fellini direct shorts based on lesser known Edgar Allen Poe stories and features performances by Jane Fonda, Peter Fonda, Alain Delon, Brigitte Bardot, and Terence Stamp? Why was I not informed of this sooner? This feels like a systemic failure. Well, watching the movie I get why it’s not talked about more. These shorts aren’t “bad” exactly but I can’t say they’re being made with much passion. The by far weakest of the three, Louis Malle’s “William Wilson” was by the director’s own admission only made to get a paycheck that could be applied to his next film Murmur of the Heart and it was made with exactly as much passion as you’d expect given that. This isn’t to say that the segment is completely charmless, it’s ending if a cool weird bit of filmmaking, but the lead-up is pretty dull. The Vadim movie is a little more interesting as it depicts a sort of 18th Century decadence (including a pet cheetah) and that story at least goes towards a neat little finale but in terms of sets and atmosphere it doesn’t feel like it’s too many cuts above your average Hammer movie or Cormon Poe adaptation. The Fellini short is the most interesting by far in that it discards the period setting that the other two use in favor of a more modern adaptation of the Poe story in question, which was itself less a sincere bit of story-telling than it was an attempt to troll the transcendentalist writers. The film features Terrence Stamp as an actor not unlike the real Terrence Stamp coming to Italy to star in a Spaghetti Western which is billed as “the first catholic western.” The movie has kind of that “dude walking through a crazy decadent industry” feel of something like La Dolce Vita or 8 ½ but the filmmaking is a lot cruder. It was filmed in that Italian style in which everyone speaks their own language on set and everyone gets dubbed, and in the case of the version I saw (the one on the Criterion Channel) that meant it was dubbed in French, which is odd, and I would also say that the print up there is pretty scratchy and in need of restoration. As a whole the film is pretty inessential despite being from three important filmmakers but is an interesting curio to be sure. *** out of Five
Bonus Film: V/H/S/94 (2021) It was looking like the V/H/S series of anthology horror films had run its course after the lackluster V/H/S: Viral came out in 2014 to poor reviews and minimal audience interest but then in 2021 the franchises struck a deal with the streaming service Shudder and began again in a new configuration in which each installment is named after a year and it’s pretty much been an annualized franchise since then. The first film from this soft reboot was V/H/S/94 and watching it I could see why this brought interest back to the series as while it’s still not exactly high art it probably is the most consistently strong set of shorts that they’ve yet delivered. For one thing, tying things to a specific year in the 90s sort of forces them to actually live up to the franchise namesake and actually using VHS aesthetics in narrative as several of the shorts in the other films just said “fuck it, this one’s shot on a GoPro.” The opening short is this fun take on old school local newscasts with a wicked and gory ending and the closing short makes use on 90s militia culture (Timothy McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc) to make short that has some relevance. The low point is probably the second short, which is a neat little twist on the zombie story but which maybe spends more time on build up than is necessarily needed and which generally kind of feels more like something out of the old V/H/S movies. The film makes up for it with its third short though, which is this absolutely insane short film from the Indonesian filmmaker Timo Tjahjanto (co-director of “Safe Haven,” a clear highlight of V/H/S/2) in which we meet test video from a mad scientist who kidnaps people and then tries to merge them with robotics to create cyborg abominations. That short maybe goes on a touch longer than needed and has a few effects shots that fall a bit short of its budget but it’s a hell of a ride nonetheless. And that’s what I come to these anthology films for, there’s usually a diamond in the rough in their and in the case of this one there isn’t even that much “rough.” ***1/2 out of Five
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Post by Neverending on Oct 17, 2023 21:39:50 GMT -5
I was more baffled by someone finding susan sarandon attractive? Y'all built different in Canada. PG Cooper, sorry to interrupt our Scary Movie discussion. I gotta go smack your buddy over here.
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 18, 2023 9:26:25 GMT -5
I was more baffled by someone finding susan sarandon attractive? Y'all built different in Canada. PG Cooper, sorry to interrupt our Scary Movie discussion. I gotta go smack your buddy over here. Not unreasonable in this case.
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 18, 2023 14:24:01 GMT -5
Day 18: The Last House on the Left (1972)This movie has been the beneficiary of excellent marketing. The Last House on the Left is an incredibly provocative title (one which has no actual relevance to the content film) and the poster bears three excellent taglines, any one of which would intrigue a potential viewer. All the controversy about the violence and the film's bout with censorship have also made it even more alluring as a forbidden fruit. But the movie itself is terrible, a tonal mess that wildly gestures between wallowing in prolonged suffering and hillbilly slapstick that would be more at home in Smokey and the Bandit than a rape-revenge movie. As deliberate juxtaposition to increase shock, the attempt is juvenile and ineffective. That the tonal dissonance might be commentary on a naive America about to be shocked by the onslaught of violence which came with the death of idealism of the sixties is a little more interesting, but I don't find that perspective too insightful either. The sixties may have been optimistic, but it was also a decade marked by bloodshed domestically and internationally; the notion that American society was blissfully naïve before that peace was shattered by the Mansons of the world is not accurate. Wes Craven would thankfully blossom into a rather skilled horror filmmaker, but little of that skill is present in The Last House on the Left. There are a few effective images, but much of the film is plagued with ineptitude in craft, taste, and imagination. D-
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Post by Doomsday on Oct 18, 2023 15:14:02 GMT -5
Day 18: The Last House on the Left (1972)
much of the film is plagued with ineptitude in craft, taste, and imagination. This sounds right up 1godzillafan 's alley.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 18, 2023 15:33:35 GMT -5
Day 18: The Last House on the Left (1972)much of the film is plagued with ineptitude in craft, taste, and imagination.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 18, 2023 16:05:43 GMT -5
Day 18: The Last House on the Left (1972) WES CRAVEN THE LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT (1972)To avoid fainting, keep repeating, it’s only a movie. That’s what the marketing’s tagline says. The film is about two girls being raped and killed by a gang of criminals. But what the advertising doesn’t tell you is that there’s two idiot cops roaming around who make Barney Fife from The Andy Griffith Show look like a genius. And then the bad guys get defeated by an old couple using booby traps. And don’t even get me started on the awful soundtrack. So to say that The Last House on the Left is overrated and misleading is an understatement. You’re better off watching the 2009 remake featuring Aaron Paul from Breaking Bad. That one has a consistent tone, doesn’t include comic relief, and never gets overly ridiculous. THE HILLS HAVE EYES (1977)Some directors have a great debut and then follow it with a disappointing film. They call it a sophomore slump. In the case of Wes Craven, it’s the opposite. He had an underwhelming debut and then an excellent second movie. The Hills Have Eyes is about a family on vacation. They get stranded in the Nevada desert while the military is performing experiments around them. And if that wasn’t bad enough, they get attacked by a group of deformed cannibals. As silly as it may sound, The Hills Have Eyes is genuinely frightening and all the characters are well-developed. It’s one of Wes Craven’s best films. DEADLY BLESSING (1981)Deadly Blessing is about a young couple who live in a farm next to an Amish community. One night, the husband is killed. The prime suspect is a creepy Amish man played by Michael Berryman of The Hills Have Eyes. But then he gets murdered too. So the widow, who’s scared at this point, invites two of her friends to move in with her. One of them is played by Sharon Stone in one of her earliest roles. What follows is a series of strange occurrences and a few more killings. Then, the villain is revealed but it leaves a few questions unanswered. And that’s when we get a “shock ending” that will have people rolling their eyes. Overall, Deadling Blessing is a decent movie. It can get silly at times, and all the characters are dumb, but I still consider it a hidden gem. SWAMP THING (1982)Under the right direction, Swamp Thing could have been an amusing B-movie, a tragic monster film, or a combination of both. Instead, it’s a cut-and-dry movie by Wes Craven. You can tell he had no passion for the project and just did it for the paycheck. Or maybe just to get his foot in Hollywood’s doorstep. Nonetheless, I do enjoy the make-up effects and some of the action sequences. Plus, Adrienne Barbeau is fun to look at. So if curiosity gets the best of you, at least you won’t be bored. A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET (1984)A child murderer is set free after a technicality. So, a group of parents get together and burn him to death. Years later, he returns by haunting the dreams of their children. If they die in their dreams, they die in real life. It’s a brilliant premise - but - Wes Craven doesn’t execute it as well as he could have. The sequels did a great job of depicting elaborate dream sequences. Here, the best Craven can do is get Johnny Depp, in his film debut, to be sucked into a bed. Regardless, I’ll give him credit for launching one of the greatest horror franchises. And for making a genuine horror movie instead of a dark fantasy film. DEADLY FRIEND (1986)Wes Craven's follow-up to Elm Street is a Frankenstein story for the 80's. Deadly Friend tells the story of a teenage boy, who upon learning of the death of the hot girl next door (played by Kristy Swanson), decides to turn her into a cyborg. And as we all know, anytime someone plays God, the results aren't good. Deadly Friend is an odd movie to critique because it's essentially two movies. On one hand, you have a Spielberg-esque story of suburban teenagers trying to survive their everyday struggles with extraordinary means. On the other hand, you have the story of a killer cyborg. The two stories don't always match well, but a good effort was made. WES CRAVEN’S NEW NIGHTMARE (1994)Wes Craven never wanted A Nightmare on Elm Street to become a franchise, but it did, so he returned 10 years after the original to write and direct a prototype for the Scream series. This time it takes place in the real world with all the actors playing themselves. A new Freddy Krueger movie is in production but it keeps getting interrupted by supernatural forces. It turns out that a demon is using Freddy’s physical characteristics to unleash hell on Earth or something like that. Honestly, I really don’t care. Most people claim this is the 2nd best Freddy Krueger film but that’s ridiculous because Freddy Krueger isn’t technically in the movie. We see Robert Englund, as himself, play Freddy. And then we see the demon use Freddy’s image. But Freddy, as a character, is nowhere to be seen. So why should I care? If you used this same concept on a Michael Myers or Jason Voorhees film, it would definitely work. But with Freddy Krueger it doesn’t. He’s too rich of a character to be replaced by some boring demon. Some people would say that Freddy is too silly to be taken seriously but I disagree. What makes him standout is the enjoyment he gets from torturing and killing. That’s more frightening than some silent murderer. I understand what Wes Craven was trying to do but it doesn’t work for me. Besides, he did a much better job with the Scream franchise which uses many of the same themes explored in New Nightmare. So that makes this movie even more pointless to watch. VAMPIRE IN BROOKLYN (1995)Some people don't value the importance of a good story. Vampire in Brooklyn isn't technically a bad movie. There are some funny scenes, especially when Eddie Murphy is playing multiple roles, and there are some good horror scenes directed by Wes Craven. But the story is so bad that none of that matters. It's about an African vampire, with some history in the Caribbean, who travels to Brooklyn to find and seduce the half-vampire daughter of a former colleague. It's an interesting tweak on a familiar premise but the script does nothing with it. It's just a plain, by-the-numbers, story of a vampire trying to find a mate. And yet, it's better than most of Eddie Murphy's movies from the 21st century. That's kind of sad when you think about it. SCREAM SERIES (1996-2011The Scream series is credited with resurrecting the slasher genre after it had lost mainstream appeal in the early 1990’s. Screenwriter Kevin Williamson (Dawson’s Creek and The Vampire Diaries) had the clever idea of taking advantage of post-Quentin Tarantino cinema and making a self-referential and self-aware horror film. The story of each movie revolves around a murderer that calls his victims on the phone, quizzes them on horror films, and then kills them. The original Scream was released in 1996 and centered on Sidney Prescott (Neve Campbell), a high school girl who is the killer’s main target, and no one knows for sure why he is after her and killing all her friends in the meantime. But it probably has something to do with her mom’s murder a year earlier. The plot is pretty straight-forward but it’s the comical elements that take center stage. For example, the cast is ridiculous. There’s David Arquette, Courtney Cox, Matthew Lillard, Jamie Kennedy, Henry “The Fonz” Winkler, and Johnny Depp look-a-like Skeet Ulrich just to name a few. Another example is the dialogue. Who can forget lines like: “Mom says that when I have the badge on you have to respect me.“ "25, huh? You know, I’m popular with males 11 to 24 and you don’t look a day over 12.” “We were R-rated and heading towards NC-17.” However, the most comical part is the ending where the killer’s identity is revealed and it’s done in a ridiculously over-the-top way. I understand what Williamson was going for. He was mocking the notion that violence is created by the entertainment industry but director Wes Craven is not exactly known for his comedic skills and he doesn’t handle it properly. Craven is actually at his best during the horror scenes, so we get a mixed bag of results. Nonetheless, Scream was a success at the box office and spawned a sequel in 1997. This time, Sidney is in college and has her peaceful life interrupted when a copycat killer shows up just as a movie about her life is being released. The sequel is superior to the original since Craven and Williamson perfected the formula. Unfortunately, “the reveal” is too silly and the actors really ham it up. That was probably because the original ending got leaked on the internet and they were forced to change it. But once again, it didn’t matter becauseScream 2 was a success as well and a third installment was released in 2000. This time, however, Kevin Williamson did not return as screenwriter and he was replaced with Ehren Kruger who has become notorious in recent years because of his scripts for Michael Bay's Transformers sequels. So right away you’ll know Scream 3 is a piece of crap. His brilliant decision was to bring comedy back to the forefront. There’s even a scene with Jay and Silent Bob. That’s how stupid it gets. But anyway, in the threequel, the actors of the latest film based on Sidney’s life are being killed. Then, things get more complicated when the killer starts leaving photos of Sidney’s mother in the crime scene. The reveal, surprisingly, isn’t as eye-rolling as in the previous two installments but it’s still a bit too overdone. Also, it’s worth noting that no one in the cast and crew seemed to care about the movie. Scream 3 comes across as heartless and JUST a paycheck for everyone involved. But luckily, in 2011, Scream 4 came along to get the bad taste out of our mouth. Kevin Williamson returned as screenwriter while director Wes Craven and the cast and crew seemed re-energized. The movie returns to the formula that worked very well in Scream 2 but also updates the story and its character to reflect our current culture and the latest trends in the horror genre. It’s a very well-made sequel and restores the Scream series to its former glory. CURSED (2005)After the success of Scream in 1996, many people tried to replicate Kevin Williamson's formula of meta-comedy and teen horror, but no one was able to pull it off with the possible exception of Urban Legend in 1998. And Wes Craven, despite his history of cheap and overrated horror movies, became the perfect collaborator for Williamson. Craven doesn't get in the way of the humor. Instead, he makes sure the horror is effective. And 2005's Cursed is a good example of their teamwork. By this point, it's obvious that Williamson was burned out and his script is very weak. It's about a young woman and her teenage brother, played by Christina Ricci and Jesse Eisenberg, who are turned into werewolves by silly Hollywood people. The comedy is mostly random and the Los Angeles setting doesn't really work. But Wes Craven is so good at creating memorable horror scenes that the flaws in the story and characters almost come across as the movies charm. Cursed is such a distinctively Williamson and Craven movie that fans of the horror genre will be oddly amused by it.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Oct 18, 2023 18:08:02 GMT -5
DAY EIGHTEEN: Blair Witch (2016)
I remember seeing the original Blair Witch Project for the first time back in 2019 and thinking that it mostly lived up to its reputation. I also remember back in 2016 when a surprise requel of that movie, simply titled Blair Witch, came out and being met with a pretty mixed reaction, and it's not hard to see why. Because 2016's Blair Witch is very much a requel in every sense of the word, for better or worse. Helmed by Adam Wingard, this movie follows the path of the original in a nearly beat-for-beat fashion, and the results are absolutely mixed. For one, just the fact that the film pretty obviously just copies a lot of the same events and occurrences as the original, just with different characters (although from what I can gather, there ARE still a few different touches here and there), and the characters themselves are really kind of stock. So, there's a certain predictability that sets in pretty quick. On the other hand, though, I think Adam Wingard does do a good job of recreating the atmosphere of the first and still giving this movie that feeling that these woods are definitely somewhere that you do NOT want to be. And as far as the camera style goes, it never feels gimmicky or overdone, but rather at least helps keep you interested. But in terms of those different touches sprinkled throughout, it's most apparent in the more extended climax, which utilizes the fact that this movie has more of a budget. To a rewarding degree? Well, it becomes more of a monster-in-the-house style of climax here, and while it does a few things okay, it culminates with a decision -- to actually show the Blair Witch -- that I didn't think worked and was really just unnecessary. And 'unnecessary' might not be an all-too-inaccurate term to use for this movie as a whole. I mean, Blair Witch is certainly watchable and does some things well, but it also adds nothing new to the legacy or mythos and is really just kind of there.
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Post by Dracula on Oct 18, 2023 20:38:22 GMT -5
Film Eighteen: Brotherhood of the Wolf (2001) Brotherhood of the Wolf came out the year after Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and I remember at the time there was some thought that this would be the next movie to break the one inch barrier of the subtitle to get some mainstream popularity by virtue of being a cool action movie but that wasn’t really to be firstly because France is not the place people go to for action cinema and secondly because… well, the movie is no Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. I was pretty excited to check this thing out. Not excited enough to get to it less than twenty two years after the fact, but still certainly excited because it certainly looked cool on the posters and has a cool title and just generally had the aura of being cool. And this extended into watching the actual movie too. I was really on board with this for the first hour or so in which we’re introduced to this weird 18th Century milieu in which a veteran of the French and Indian war is called in to investigate a series of killings that have seemingly been carried out by a monster in the countryside and he’s assisted by this Iroquois guy he met in New France. So far so interesting, and if you know that all of this is loosely based on an actual mythical creature that was said to have killed a bunch of peasants during this time, though that is perhaps where the film started to go wrong. I was kind of hoping this would be something akin to Sleepy Hollow, which goes full supernatural, but it instead has perhaps a bit more in common with From Hell in that it’s trying to give this plausible but fictional explanation for a legendary string of murders and, well, I think just making the bad guy a werewolf might have been the more appealing option. Instead once the film finally does stop playing the Jaws game of keeping the “monster” off screen and starts giving you close up it looks kind of terrible and any suspense evaporates. The title and some of the advertising makes this look like a semi-horror movie but it’s really more of an action/adventure thing and while it does have some neat moments in that regard it’s filmmaking lacks a certain mastery that would make it work as pure cinema. It’s also way too long and spends too much time trying to tie all of this into arcane French political history and the movie had pretty well lost me by its last third. Still, there was some promise there I will give it points for putting this kind of thing into a time and place we don’t normally see action movies set in and that is almost enough to make it work. *** out of Five
Bonus Round: Silver Bullet (1985) I was not expecting much from Silver Bullet as it’s not a movie with a particularly good reputation but I ended up finding the final movie kind of surprisingly fun. A big part of why the film rubs horror fans the wrong way is that it had a very troubled production in which fan favorite director Don Coscarelli began work on the film and actually filmed all the non-werewolf scenes but ended up quitting when he and Stephen King (who wrote the screenplay and was generally more involved than usual) clashed with producer Dino de Laurentiis over what the werewolf suit should look like and was replaced by a guy named Daniel Attias who has never helmed another feature film but has had a long and respected career since then working in television. That drama probably could have been avoided as they ended up using the old werewolf suit after all and… old Dino may have had a point. It’s not the worst looking werewolf in the world by any means but it’s no American Werewolf in London and for that matter it’s no The Howling. The rest of the movie’s fun though. It’s a very classically King in the 80s story in which a kid (Corey Haim) is the only one in a small town to get to the bottom of what evil forces are lurking there, so it’s kind of part of that whole wave of 80s kids on bikes that Stranger Things has been aping. The main kid is in a wheelchair in this one which is kind of a neat twist on the usual formula and the film also features Gary Busey hamming it up. The whole movie genrally seems pretty professionally made outside of that questionable wolf costume and Coscarelli/Attias give it all a decent visual style and helm some good set pieces including the surprise including of a car chase that’s pretty tense. At the end of the day you can still see some odd choices here and there like this rather unneeded voice-over, and at the end of the day having a weak werewolf in your werewolf movie is a pretty big flaw but I had fun with this movie. *** out of Five
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Post by Neverending on Oct 19, 2023 1:08:03 GMT -5
SnoBorderZero didn't know I used to do programming for HBO back in the 80's.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 19, 2023 1:22:05 GMT -5
I, MADMAN (1989)From the director of the Gate comes this movie about a woman that finds a book that unleashes violence and mayhem around her. I wasn’t entirely sold on the premise. It seemed like the scriptwriters were uncertain on which type of movie they wanted to make. Is it all in her head? Is it a prank? Is it supernatural? It took too long for the movie to settle on what it wanted to be, but once it did, it’s actually quite fun and well made. I liked the actress too. Jenny Wright. She’s good. Where do you find these movies? I want this poster. DR. JEKYLL AND SISTER HYDE (1971)Dr. Jekyll and Sister Hyde, from Hammer Studios, is a fairly straightforward Jekyll & Hyde with some Burke & Hare and Jack the Ripper elements thrown in. It’s quite fun. I’ve watched a fair bit of 70’s British horror (Hammer and otherwise) and this was better than most. It's engaging. Characters are good. It’s fairly well made. And this one. RETURN TO SALEM’S LOT (1987)Gen X adores the original Salem’s Lot (although it was boring shit) and detest this sequel/soft-reboot. Foreshadowing of things to come? I actually didn’t mind this one at all. It wasn’t particularly scary (not that it needed to be) or thrilling, but I did find myself invested in the story. This guy and his son move into a small town that’s almost fully populated by vampires. Instead of attacking them, they welcome them into their society. They want to move away from human blood because of AIDS and the crack epidemic (I’m serious) and have moved to animal blood. So they want to form a truce with the humans. That’s all fine and dandy until the dad realizes that there’s other ulterior motives. As I said, the movie is pretty good. It has an interesting take on vampires. There is one glaring flaw, however, and that’s the acting. It’s atrocious. But oh well. Some may find that amusing. And this one.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 19, 2023 1:40:23 GMT -5
MY BEST FRIEND IS A VAMPIRE (1987)It’s beating a dead horse to say this, but kids movies used to have cojones. Here we have the story of a high school aged delivery boy that meets a seductive adult woman on one of his deliveries. She invites him in to have sex and all goes well until she turns out to be a vampire. This is the setup to a million porn videos, and also, a PG rated comedy. PG, folks. PG! And this is 1987. Three years after the PG-13. The MPAA sat to watch this and said, “sure — this is perfectly suitable for children.” Anyhoo, this teen boy is turned into a vampire after a one-night-stand with an adult woman. He doesn’t intend to harm anyone, so he drinks animal blood. That, unfortunately, means nothing to a vampire hunter (played by David Warner) who is on a mission to kill all vampires. Overall, it’s alright. It’s a decent enough kids movie. It’s not particularly spooky or funny. It’s middle of the road. But heck, the kids will at least learn of the birds and the bees. In case PG Cooper thinks I was fucking with him...
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Post by PhantomKnight on Oct 19, 2023 8:49:39 GMT -5
DAY NINETEEN: The Ninth Gate (1999)
Legitimate question: what is The Ninth Gate? Is it a horror movie? Is it a satire? Is it a troll job? Is it all of those things at once? I've now seen this movie twice (the first time, many years ago during my college days), and even I can't answer that question. Here is a movie that feels so tonally confused with itself, that I was left just kind of confounded by it. I remember feeling similarly confused by its intent after my first viewing, but man, was that feeling amplified this time around. If it's trying to be a horror movie -- at least, a serious one -- then it fails almost spectacularly at that. For one, this movie has no sense of atmosphere, instead just plodding along right from the opening minutes. Whenever it attempts to bring in a sense of menace or elements of the supernatural, everything just falls flat and feels more silly than anything else. Not to mention how the plot just meanders all the way through with an attempted mystery dully combined with the supernatural aspects that gradually -- a bit TOO gradually -- reveal themselves. "Mumbo jumbo," as Frank Langella's character repeats over and over towards the end of the film. But most curiously, the movie seems to think itself something of a comedy as well. Not that Johnny Depp's character here is exactly a bumbling figure or anything, but there is something to be said for just how he seems to literally stumble from murdered victim to murdered victim while investigating the authenticity of a potentially demonic book. And the fact that this movie contains a truly out-of-place sounding musical score that feels like it'd be more at home in something like an Inspector Clouseau movie and fight choreography that's just awkward as hell, and I have to wonder what exactly was Roman Polanski's intent here? Because unless it was to create a movie that just trolls people's expectations for what a supposed horror movie with this very same plot would be...I've gotta say that it rather severely misses the mark. It's a movie, at least. That's all I can really say.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 19, 2023 10:36:07 GMT -5
DAY NINETEEN: The Ninth Gate (1999)*/**** No.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Oct 19, 2023 10:46:46 GMT -5
DAY NINETEEN: The Ninth Gate (1999)*/**** No. Yes.
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Post by Dracula on Oct 19, 2023 14:51:25 GMT -5
Film Nineteen: The Mansion of Madness (1973) For the next pair of movies in my Mexican Horror retrospective I’ll be taking a look at the work of Juan López Moctezuma, an interesting filmmaker who only directed six films in his career, most of them roughly in the horror genre. Also, while his films are made entirely in Mexico and are generally accepted as works of Mexican cinema they were made with a fairly international outlook and were often shot in English. His debut film The Mansion of Madness (which goes by several titles and is streaming on Shudder as Dr. Tarr's Torture Dungeon) in particular would not be terribly identifiable as Mexican if you didn’t know better as it’s set in a 19th Century mental institution in a remote area of France. The whole setup is loosely based on a story by Edgar Allen Poe called “The System of Doctor Tarr and Professor Fether,” and carries over the basic theme of someone visiting an insane asylum in which the inmates seem to be running free but adds the wrinkle that some of them are being tortured and others seem to have formed a sort of cult run by the asylum keeper who has kind of “gone native” and turned the place into a Colonel Kurtz type outpost. Despite the origins and potentially disturbing content, “horror” is more of a superficial backdrop for this than it is indicative of any real interest in being “scary.” The film was produced by a guy named Roberto Viskin, who had previously produced Alejandro Jodorowsky’s El Topo and Jodorowsky is probably the right comparison point for this and it perhaps even more closely resembles his The Holy Mountain (which came out the same year). This movie was plainly made by people who rather enjoyed psychedelic experiences and some of its carnival of madness qualities seems informed by all the craziness of the 60s counter-culture. Needless to say, this is far from being the most sensitive portrayal of mental illness and I’d also say that there’s a reason why Jodorowsky remains a much discussed figure while this movie sort of languishes in obscurity because there are definite missteps here like it’s (possibly intentionally?) dopey score and the film gets pretty exploitative in its employment of nudity and also contains some rather unpleasant sexual violence. Still, for people who are interested in genre and in 60s/70s wackiness this movie could be something of a “find” and one that I don’t mind having experienced even if I don’t know that it exactly “works.” **1/2 out of Five
Bonus Film: Murders in the Rue Morgue (1932) Murders in the Rue Morgue is one of three Edgar Allen Poe adaptations made by Universal during the 30s and are sometimes said to be honorary Universal Monsters films despite not actually featuring what can necessarily be called “monsters” exactly. I remember this one being more clearly considered canonical than some of the others when I was younger but since then I think The Black Cat has exceeded it in popularity, probably rightly. The original Poe story is considered one of the author’s more important writings as it is said to be the first modern detective story ever written, but that also means that it’s not truly a horror story so much as a mystery. That kind of transfers over to the film, at least narratively but director Robert Florey certainly shot it to look and feel like a Universal horror movie with some clear German Expressionist influences here and there. The film is probably most notable for the fact that it was the first movie that Bela Legosi really made to be a follow-up to his work in Dracula and the movie does indeed capture Legosi in good form. There’s also some rather queer subtext in one scene that’s pretty blatent. Beyond that, meh. The movie is all of 62 minutes long, which suggests it was originally meant to play in double bills and indeed, it has more of a B-movie feel than the “real” Universal monsters films. Still, fun enough watch if you’ve seen all the other Universal horror flicks and are looking for something fresh. *** out of Five
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Post by frankyt on Oct 19, 2023 19:54:30 GMT -5
The fall of the house of usher was so sick. Prob Flanagan's best for me.
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Post by Dracula on Oct 19, 2023 22:37:29 GMT -5
The fall of the house of usher was so sick. Prob Flanagan's best for me. 8/10 I've got one episode left. I'm digging it but it's probably the silliest of Flanagan's Netflix shows. If you were somehow watching it not knowing anything about Poe a lot of its decisions would seem awfully strange.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Oct 20, 2023 0:36:54 GMT -5
I'm thinking about giving it a whirl...in spite of the cat violence I'm hearing about. Which actually seems to be a commonality from what I hear about Flanagan's other shows. As a cat lover/owner, it's something that's kept me kind of hesitant about Flanagan's Netflix output, silly as that may sound.
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Post by frankyt on Oct 20, 2023 8:07:00 GMT -5
Yea I guess I'm a bigger fan of poes work than I had assumed as I got pretty much all the references outside the cognac - but looked that up and that was interesting.
I thought it was incredibly watchable - a few of the deaths are cheesy shit but it hit for me.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Oct 20, 2023 9:16:04 GMT -5
DAY TWENTY: Body Parts (1991)
Just take a moment to consider the premise of Body Parts: a criminal psychologist, after being in a horrific car accident, loses an arm and is given a new one by way of a donated limb of a serial killer...an arm that apparently still possesses the murderous intent of its former owner and thus begins infecting the mind of its new host, made all the more dire when a new string of bodies start piling up. That right there has the makings of a kooky and entertaining horror thriller, and yet, Body Parts doesn't fully tap into that crazy potential until near the end of its run. The rest of the time, it takes itself rather seriously and focuses instead on the psychological turmoil and uncertainty of its main character, played by Jeff Fahey. And while there's nothing inherently wrong with that approach -- because Fahey certainly puts in the work and comes out with a pretty decent performance and the movie does an okay job of at least staying engaging enough most of the time -- it still feels like a much more entertaining version of this movie is being left on the table. This has the potential of being a wild midnight movie kind of thriller, but the decision to go more serious with it most of the time feels a bit miscalculated, especially when some of the execution leaves something to be desired. Although on the other hand, maybe if the whole movie had been like the last thirty minutes, the novelty of the insanity would have worn thin? I dunno, maybe. But the point still stands that Body Parts could have benefitted from a clearer purpose/focus -- not to mention better story development --rather than trying to have it both ways. The movie isn't completely without merit, but it could have taken the time to better stitch together its various parts into something that worked more cleanly as a whole.
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 20, 2023 18:04:49 GMT -5
Day 19 and Day 20: Child's Play 2 and Child's Play 3Child's Play 2Child's Play 2 is functionally repeat of the first Child's Play, but it largely gets away with it. The first reason is that the set-pieces here really deliver, especially a very fun climax set in a Good Guys factory building hundreds of identical Chucky dolls. The second, since we know from the start that Chucky is an evil little bastard, Brad Douriff gets to cut loose and embrace delicious villainy the whole way through. So while you could ding Child's Play 2 for being an uncreative sequel, it's also a film which succeeds in providing what makes these movies appealing in the first place. I'll call that a modest win. B-Child's Play 3As Child's Play 3's story began in the darkened boardroom of a greedy toy company committing to make more Chucky dolls despite the bad press and trauma inflicted on the young child from the first two movies, I found myself getting excited. Is this gonna be a movie where Chucky wreaks havoc against slimy corporate suits? Are we about to get this franchise's take on Gremlins 2? Sadly not. After Chucky slashes the CEO he shifts focus to again trying to posses the body of young Andy, the kid who keeps killing him. So, it's business as usual. This time around though Andy has been aged up to a teenager and sent to military school due to behavioral problems following his many encounters with a murderous doll. I must say this is an odd set-up. For one, the symbolic terror of a killer toy is far less pronounced when the victim has aged out of playing with the toy in the first place. The bigger issue though is the military school, which seems a uniquely awful setting for this series given there's no reason for a doll to be there at all. And this setting isn't incidental, Child's Play 3 goes all in on this milieu, complete with many references to Full Metal Jacket. I really don't understand why this is the direction the franchise went in, beyond they were pumping out sequels quick and this was the first idea that came to mind. Overall, this is a pretty weak sequel. It's watchable enough in the moment and at least ends on a mostly entertaining set-piece, but all the non-Chucky characters are boring and/or stupid and the core premise is ill-suited to the franchise. There are certainly worse slasher sequels out there but Child's Play 3 does not amount to much. D+
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