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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 9:06:22 GMT -5
You know those tapes aren't legal, right? Those tapes wouldn't stand up in court because they were illegally obtained. All parties would have to be aware that they were being recorded and given their consent. They probably could be used in court by Planned Parenthood to show libelous intent against the people who made and published them in a public forum in an effort to smear Planned Parenthood Still avoiding my 4 points.
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Post by Ramplate on Aug 2, 2015 9:23:15 GMT -5
Find some points that were legally obtained
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 10:13:20 GMT -5
Find some points that were legally obtained Don't need to. These videos aren't illegal, PP is just claiming they are. No one can defend those 4 huge points I am asking you to. It would be like asking people to ignore the holocaust because Hitler was a good artist at times. You can't defend such evil by pointing out something totally unrelated to the problem as a diversion tactic.
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Post by Ramplate on Aug 2, 2015 10:50:57 GMT -5
Yeah that's probably why a California court issued a restraining order on the tapes
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 11:01:00 GMT -5
Restraining order against the release of future tapes while the courts/lawyers investigated. That does not make them illegal. This gives the courts time to investigate, plan and simple.
Still avoiding.
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 2, 2015 16:21:24 GMT -5
What almost nobody understands is that when people debate abortion they're arguing about two different things. That's why you never find any common ground, nobody comes to the center because there's no center to get to, and there's hardly anything for people to take away. One side argues that it's about a woman's right to choose what to do with her body, the other side argues that a human life is being intentionally destroyed. One general topic, two completely separate arguments. It's like somebody saying 'Mercedes are better than BMWs!' and someone else saying 'Wrong, Thunderball is the best Bond movie!' Then they bicker over it.
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Post by thebtskink on Aug 2, 2015 16:30:59 GMT -5
What almost nobody understands is that when people debate abortion they're arguing about two different things. That's why you never find any common ground, nobody comes to the center because there's no center to get to, and there's hardly anything for people to take away. One side argues that it's about a woman's right to choose what to do with her body, the other side argues that a human life is being intentionally destroyed. One general topic, two completely separate arguments. It's like somebody saying 'Mercedes are better than BMWs!' and someone else saying 'Wrong, Thunderball is the best Bond movie!' Then they bicker over it. Bingo.
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Post by Ramplate on Aug 2, 2015 16:30:56 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 16:55:17 GMT -5
But I'm not arguing about abortion. Pretty sure I have made that clear.
Dont get me wrong I am against abortion, with some exceptions, but I havent argued against abortion, just what PP is doing.
Not sure how everyone keeps missing that. Maybe some are taking this too personal and just glossing over and responding based of what they assume I am going for in my comments and not what I am actually saying?
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Post by Neverending on Aug 2, 2015 22:30:11 GMT -5
But I'm not arguing about abortion. Of course you are. It's not like Planned Parenthood broke into someone's house, murdered their child and then sold it. What you've been bitching about is directly related to abortions. That's why you keep shouting "dead babies" while everyone else rolls their eyes. You're mad because you hate abortions and found a new way to complain about it. The rest of us know these are just fetuses being sold for medical research. Would you prefer if they were thrown in the garbage can?
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Post by Ramplate on Aug 3, 2015 6:38:52 GMT -5
That's not it - they're not being sold - they are covering costs associated with the care and timely delivery of said materials
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 6:55:34 GMT -5
But I'm not arguing about abortion. Of course you are. It's not like Planned Parenthood broke into someone's house, murdered their child and then sold it. What you've been bitching about is directly related to abortions. That's why you keep shouting "dead babies" while everyone else rolls their eyes. You're mad because you hate abortions and found a new way to complain about it. The rest of us know these are just fetuses being sold for medical research. Would you prefer if they were thrown in the garbage can? Nope. You assume that's why I am against PP. Your assumptions are wrong. Still no one responding to the 4 things I brought up.
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Post by Ramplate on Aug 3, 2015 7:53:18 GMT -5
Because no one wants to sit through three hours of tape to find out what put a bug up your ass
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 11:03:09 GMT -5
Because no one wants to sit through three hours of tape to find out what put a bug up your ass So why are you arguing for PP when you havent even bothered to watch the videos? How insane is it to just ignore evidence and blindly support a horrible organization? You should probably sit the rest of this one out Ramp. I am against PP but I didn't just read the headlines and get on my soapbox. I watched the shortened video and then watched the full one as well before my original post on this. As new videos were released I did the same. I had facts before I started the debate. You should do the same.
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Post by Ramplate on Aug 3, 2015 11:15:30 GMT -5
Fact - they lied about who they were Fact - they presented false credentials Fact - they taped people who did not give their consent
these are the types of people you are backing?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 11:21:30 GMT -5
Fact - they lied about who they were Fact - they presented false credentials Fact - they taped people who did not give their consent these are the types of people you are backing? They don't murder to harvest organs for profit.....so yeah I am backing them. Until you take the time to watch the videos I don't really have anything else to debate with you on. You have admitted you have no idea what you are talking about so I'm not going to waste my time talking about it with you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 13:21:27 GMT -5
Sorry, but both TYT and the NYT are extreme liberal organizations and if a video was released showing PP birthing live babies, letting the mother breastfeed, and then shooting the baby in the head they would defend it.
Both the video and article quoted do the same thing you have been doing. Ignoring the majority of the works and nitpicking one thing. A "can't see the forest for the trees" approach.
If I posted a link to Fox News you probably wouldn't even watch/read it. I at least watched what you posted. You still haven't watched the videos and instead let TYT make your opinion for you.
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 3, 2015 13:54:38 GMT -5
I don't care for the Young Turks at all but that lady, oh the things I would do to her....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 14:14:50 GMT -5
I don't care for the Young Turks at all but that lady, oh the things I would do to her.... Yea attractive-ish but she has a mean case of RBF.
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Post by Ramplate on Aug 3, 2015 17:46:57 GMT -5
Sorry, but both TYT and the NYT are extreme liberal organizations and if a video was released showing PP birthing live babies, letting the mother breastfeed, and then shooting the baby in the head they would defend it. Both the video and article quoted do the same thing you have been doing. Ignoring the majority of the works and nitpicking one thing. A "can't see the forest for the trees" approach. If I posted a link to Fox News you probably wouldn't even watch/read it. I at least watched what you posted. You still haven't watched the videos and instead let TYT make your opinion for you. I read and watch liberal stuff therefore I m wrong, but you read and watch conservative stuff and you're completely right That tells me a lot
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Post by frankyt on Aug 3, 2015 18:00:21 GMT -5
Guys can we give it a rest?
Lets move onto a topic we can all agree on: climate change.
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Post by Ramplate on Aug 3, 2015 18:06:34 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 13:10:53 GMT -5
Another video released, again showing how horrible PP is. Even MSNBC is saying it is awful what they are doing.
Might be time to admit what they really are and shut them down. Send their government funds to real health clinics who can use it the way it is intended.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 4, 2015 13:20:07 GMT -5
Guys can we give it a rest? Lets move onto a topic we can all agree on: climate change. Doomsday and SnoBorderZero have no water. They're living on Red Bull.
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