Politics Thread

The full unedited 2 hour version is in the link. Go watch it. None of what was said is out of context. PP is a sick and disgusting organization that needs to be shut down. They do make Margaret Sanger proud though.

Yeah there's more to it than that video

It's not a nice subject - but science isn't always pretty.
once the abortion is done it is tissue that can be used for scientific study and advancement, and since they're not making money doing that - just covering expenses, there's nothing illegal about it (on the other hand, if someone is making money that should be stopped) - better than tossing it in the dumpster.

Legislation against abortions takes away woman's choices thereby losing control over their own bodily functions. That's pretty much what they mean by that statement. Someone else gains control of something when choice is taken away from someone else.



Not to hard to get

I'm staying outta this one.

Well to be fair, the number of abortion doctor murders attributed to anti-abortion extremists is insanely low, like eight or ten. Some people might have you believe it's in the thousands but less than a dozen over the 40 years since Roe vs. Wade isn't an epidemic. Even if you factored in the bombings and arsons which do number in the low hundreds it's still an extremely low rate of violence toward these people. Not to imply that it's justified or anything, I just think that branding pro-life people as this or that (not saying you did) is the same as branding pro-choice supporters as baby killers.

That said, you're right. Their logic of 'killing the person that kills babies' is extremely flawed to say the least.

There's clearly a demand for it.  Let the market decide!  What else are they supposed to do with the leftovers/garbage? 

I'd think anti-choice pro-lifers would be frothing in the panties to hear that the "babies" aren't going to waste.

From a practical standpoint, it's a good idea.

Imagine you're cleaning your home. When it's time to get rid of stuff you don't need anymore there are usually three piles you make for your junk. Keep, sell, and donate. It's wasteful to throw something away if it's in good enough condition that someone else could use. A garage sale is tedious. The best option is to donate, so you pay a fee and someone comes to pick up your donation. You are rid of clutter and someone else gets to enjoy whatever item you no longer have.

Now imagine your house is a vagina and your junk is a bundle of cells that you're going to get rid of anyway.

But from what I understand these are women who were going to be getting abortions anyway. PP is not recruiting pregnant women off the street and paying them for their fetus' organs.

I get that you disagree with abortion, but my point is that if a woman is getting an abortion anyway why is it so terrible that the organs are being sold?

They aren't selling body parts - they are covering cost of maintaining transporting viable samples of tissue and organs. No different from a donated kidney being shipped from one hospital to another. They are not making a profit.

Abortions have their physical cost for the person having the abortion - it's not like going to the barber shop and getting a trim.
The womb is damaged a bit each time, so there is a limit as to how many abortions one can undergo. There is no revolving door where you can keep doing it ad infinitum.

Also, there is a chance, which increases each time, where it will be harder and harder for a woman to conceive.

They are required to explain all the options to a person seeking advice

Oooh... abortions on roller skates!