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Post by PG Cooper on Nov 15, 2016 7:57:52 GMT -5
Tell me what did Obama Exactly do in 8 years as President. I just dont see how he has improved america in 8 years as president. Im not saying anyone else could done better. All fazes of government has done nothing but what Approve what a medical policy that doesnt really help anyone and a couple government shutdowns. If Obama was successful and did well Hilary would have beaten Trump Easily. If Anything Obama seemed too Hurt Hilary some what. Gay marriage legalization, progress on climate change, wider acceptance of the trans community, Obamacare (which has problems but is a noble idea that has helped people), and brought America out of the recession (among many other accomplishments I'm sure others here could bring up). If Obama hurt Hillary in any way, it's that he was too awesome a candidate to follow-up. Not only did he make progress, but he was also charismatic and cool. He was an easy choice for democrats to be excited about in a way Hillary wasn't. |
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Post by thebtskink on Nov 15, 2016 8:41:00 GMT -5
Gay marriage was SCOTUS
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Post by Dracula on Nov 15, 2016 9:31:06 GMT -5
And it wouldn't have been if McCaine and Romney had appointed two of them. |
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Post by thebtskink on Nov 15, 2016 9:41:54 GMT -5
And it wouldn't have been if McCaine and Romney had appointed two of them. Truth. |
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Post by Ramplate on Nov 15, 2016 9:56:21 GMT -5
Trump has said that he will not fight gay marriage because 'that is overand decided ' But he wants someone in SCOTUS who will repeal Roe v Wade and let the states decide. Um, what's the difference? He says one has been decided, but the other one that went through the same SCOTUS process isn't?  ? Trump is really good at contradicting himself. Not everyone can travel to a different state to get a safe abortion. Especially when you have to check in, then go back home and think about it just in case you change your mind, and then have to go back to the other state maybe one or more times to make really sure before they'll let you have the procedure that you thought long and hard about the first time. |
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Post by thebtskink on Nov 15, 2016 10:52:33 GMT -5
And don't forget Obama set a bad precedent with Kagan as well.
Don't be surprised to get a nominee with no judicial experience.
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Post by RedVader on Nov 15, 2016 14:13:08 GMT -5
Doesnt Congress and the Senate also have too agree about legalizing Lesbian and Gay policy. Its funny how presidents get credit for things when people know sooner or later people will go to get legalized weed and same sex couple getting hitched. I myself while think what couples do is there own buisness. I just dont quite know how too have an opinion on gay policy. I likely need too stop with that opinion there.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 15, 2016 19:20:22 GMT -5
President Bernie Sanders
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Post by Jibbs on Nov 15, 2016 20:10:02 GMT -5
I hope so.
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Post by thebtskink on Nov 16, 2016 9:14:31 GMT -5
I giggle at all Joe Biden memes
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Nov 17, 2016 19:02:00 GMT -5
The discussion went something like "Hey dumbass, it's real!" |
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 19, 2016 13:02:29 GMT -5
His views on climate change are what worry me the most.
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Post by thebtskink on Nov 19, 2016 23:11:42 GMT -5
Trump tweeting about the theater needing to be a safe space would be funny. If he or Pence weren't you know, bigots.
God, the more I think of Pence the more concerned I am for if Trump steps down or is impeached.
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Post by Jibbs on Nov 20, 2016 1:40:38 GMT -5
Same thing either way. Might as well impeach him and enjoy the moment.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 20, 2016 2:01:55 GMT -5
Trump tweeting about the theater needing to be a safe space would be funny. If he or Pence weren't you know, bigots. God, the more I think of Pence the more concerned I am for if Trump steps down or is impeached. Pence is Trump's insurance policy. No one gonna assassinate Trump knowing Pence is worse. |
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Post by Jibbs on Nov 20, 2016 13:58:58 GMT -5
Yeah, because assassins are logical.
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Post by thebtskink on Nov 20, 2016 14:55:19 GMT -5
Yeah, because assassins are logical. The ones that aren't completely nuts (Squeaky Fromme, Charles Guiteau), are either deluded (John Hinckly, Oswald), or blind and unreasonable followers of a worthless ideology (Mark David Chapman, Gavrilo Princip, Leon Czolgosz, John Wilkes Booth). If you had a Trump assassination attempt, it'd be just as likely to come from a disillusioned alt-right guy than from anywhere else. |
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Post by Dracula on Nov 20, 2016 17:02:35 GMT -5
Trump tweeting about the theater needing to be a safe space would be funny. If he or Pence weren't you know, bigots. God, the more I think of Pence the more concerned I am for if Trump steps down or is impeached. Pence is Trump's insurance policy. No one gonna assassinate Trump knowing Pence is worse. Unless Pence is behind it... and he doesn't even need an assassin, Trump will almost certainly commit an impeachable offense early in his presidency and Pence will be there to pounce. As despicable as Pence is... I'd probably still take him over Trump. He's at least a rational-ish adult. |
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Post by PG Cooper on Nov 20, 2016 17:44:00 GMT -5
Pence worries me because he's able to hide his vile hatred and discrimination under the veil of a reasonable and smooth politician. Trump, on the other hand, is too bluntly hateful and lacks the social graces for it to be hidden at all. In short, he's an obvious evil.
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