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Post by thebtskink on Sept 24, 2019 17:33:19 GMT -5
Pelosi is doing this reluctantly, unlike a lot of other people in her party she's not stupid. She knows that this is going to light a fire under the collective ass of the entire Republican base. This could blow up in their face and could once again lead to the Democrats losing another impossible to lose election. I agree with initial reasoning to the previous calls, but her hand is being forced here. This new Ukraine thing charge changes it all. At this point if they dont have an inquiry they would have appeared ineffectual and weak. This impeachment probably won't pass the Senate, but they have to try.
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Post by Dracula on Sept 24, 2019 17:55:17 GMT -5
Pelosi is doing this reluctantly, unlike a lot of other people in her party she's not stupid. She knows that this is going to light a fire under the collective ass of the entire Republican base. This could blow up in their face and could once again lead to the Democrats losing another impossible to lose election. I agree with initial reasoning to the previous calls, but her hand is being forced here. This new Ukraine thing charge changes it all. At this point if they dont have an inquiry they would have appeared ineffectual and weak. This impeachment probably won't pass the Senate, but they have to try. I basically agree. I might have waited until we had the transcript before I called it an impeachment inquiry but at a certain point Trump needs to be held accountable for his rampant corruption.
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Post by Doomsday on Sept 24, 2019 18:19:35 GMT -5
It won't pass the Senate at all but the Democrats have been trying to go down the impeachment road almost as long as he's been in office. If nothing comes of this Ukraine situation or it just peters out it won't end well for them. If it does come out though that he tried to do a quid pro quo then by all means get rid of him.
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Post by Nilade on Sept 24, 2019 21:49:56 GMT -5
Pelosi is doing this reluctantly, unlike a lot of other people in her party she's not stupid. She knows that this is going to light a fire under the collective ass of the entire Republican base. This could blow up in their face and could once again lead to the Democrats losing another impossible to lose election. Unfortunately, I agree 100%. Ultimately, all this is is going through the motions to do something, instead of doing nothing. I stand by my point that this won't affect his presidency any more than the Mueller investigation did. We just have to vote him out.
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Post by Dracula on Sept 24, 2019 21:56:05 GMT -5
It's like when the Republicans endlessly investigated Benghazi and Hilary Clinton's Emails and it only ended up bolstering her popularity and led people to vote for her en masse in a landslide victory in 2016... oh wait.
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Post by Neverending on Sept 24, 2019 22:41:01 GMT -5
It's like when the Republicans endlessly investigated Benghazi and Hilary Clinton's Emails and it only ended up bolstering her popularity and led people to vote for her en masse in a landslide victory in 2016... oh wait. She did win the popular vote.
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Post by Doomsday on Sept 24, 2019 23:01:14 GMT -5
I was gonna say, aren’t Democrats the ones who remind everyone that she won by 3 million votes?
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Post by Ramplate on Sept 25, 2019 7:07:22 GMT -5
more like 2.7 million.
he should be impeached I don't think it will sway any voters, but it does put republicans on record having voted yes or no - people might look at that for congressional fall out above retiring republican senators
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Post by thebtskink on Sept 25, 2019 7:20:53 GMT -5
You also have him on camera changing his story the next day.
As bad as it sounds, thus is easier to prove than anything in Mueller Report.
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Post by Dracula on Sept 25, 2019 10:06:22 GMT -5
The transcript is out and it looks pretty damn bad for Trump. I think he probably will find ways to spin it for his cultists but the impeachment proceading seem fairly justified. Also it makes Trump sound like a child and make the Ukrainian president sound like a pathetic kissass.
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Post by thebtskink on Sept 25, 2019 15:21:51 GMT -5
Jesus, he's an idiot.
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Post by Ramplate on Sept 26, 2019 16:06:42 GMT -5
“Democrats on this very committee negotiated with people who they thought were Ukrainians in order to obtain nude pictures of Trump, People can reasonably ask why the Democrats are so determined to impeach this president when in just a year, they will have a chance.” --Devin Nunes
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Post by Neverending on Sept 30, 2019 16:50:12 GMT -5
Not a particular good standup special but he worked the crowd like a champ.
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Post by Deexan on Oct 2, 2019 10:10:27 GMT -5
Heart problems for Bernie...
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Post by Ramplate on Oct 2, 2019 12:47:48 GMT -5
Trump has been losing it all week -
"Moats on the Mexican border with snakes and alligators" (no sharks with freakin' lasers?)
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Post by Doomsday on Oct 2, 2019 14:23:20 GMT -5
Heart problems for Bernie... Yup, odds are looking pretty damn good for Warren.
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Post by frankyt on Oct 2, 2019 14:34:39 GMT -5
There goes my heathcare stock gains.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 2, 2019 14:35:20 GMT -5
Heart problems for Bernie... Yup, odds are looking pretty damn good for Warren. Warren should have ran in 2016. Hilary was a waste of time.
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Post by thebtskink on Oct 2, 2019 15:53:50 GMT -5
I hate her with a passion and I'm pissed I'm gonna have to vote for her.
Come on Uncle Joe!
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Post by Doomsday on Oct 2, 2019 16:41:25 GMT -5
I hate her with a passion and I'm pissed I'm gonna have to vote for her. Come on Uncle Joe! Her awkward as fuck instagram video with her husband was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
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