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Post by Neverending on Apr 21, 2022 3:08:20 GMT -5
I hated the VVitch but loved the Lighthouse. This falls right in the middle. It’s visually appealing … but my God… did it need to be two and a half hours long? And Nicole Kidman’s face gets worse every year. She’s ready to play the Crypt Keeper! It’s not the Mel Gibson Viking epic we’ve been impatiently waiting for. It’s very much an A24 type movie. But the story is pretty accessible. It’s just a run of the mill revenge story. If it weren’t for the visuals, this woulda been a Jason Statham movie. Basically, it’s an artsy fartsy film you can take your grandma too.
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Post by Doomsday on Apr 21, 2022 23:29:25 GMT -5
But does the naked fight on the volcano deliver?
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Post by Neverending on Apr 21, 2022 23:46:40 GMT -5
But does the naked fight on the volcano deliver? No
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Post by Doomsday on Apr 21, 2022 23:53:18 GMT -5
Hard fucking pass then.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Apr 21, 2022 23:57:14 GMT -5
It was not opportune for me to watch this tonight, so my schedule only allowed me to squeeze in Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent and The Bad Guys, which I chose because they were both much fucking shorter than this movie. I'll probably see this Saturday.
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Post by Dracula on Apr 22, 2022 6:16:48 GMT -5
**** out of Five
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Post by donny on Apr 22, 2022 7:19:11 GMT -5
This was very metal.
Definitely the most accessible of Eggers features, and not my favorite of his, but still better than most of what’s being offered right now.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Apr 22, 2022 8:23:02 GMT -5
This being the most accessible of Eggers' movies so far honestly sounds good to me. I only just admired The Witch and The Lighthouse, can't say I liked/enjoyed them a whole lot, but this one's been piquing my interest for sure.
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Post by Neverending on Apr 22, 2022 17:51:05 GMT -5
DraculaDefinitely the most accessible of Eggers features This being the most accessible of Eggers' movies so far honestly sounds good to me. Saying Northman is more accessible is like saying Darkman is more accessible than Evil Dead II.
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Post by Dracula on Apr 22, 2022 18:17:08 GMT -5
Dracula Definitely the most accessible of Eggers features This being the most accessible of Eggers' movies so far honestly sounds good to me. Saying Northman is more accessible is like saying Darkman is more accessible than Evil Dead II. But Darkman is more accessible than Evil Dead II?
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Post by donny on Apr 22, 2022 19:05:10 GMT -5
DraculaDefinitely the most accessible of Eggers features This being the most accessible of Eggers' movies so far honestly sounds good to me. Saying Northman is more accessible is like saying Darkman is more accessible than Evil Dead II. I mean, you said yourself, the story is more accessible.
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Post by Neverending on Apr 23, 2022 0:04:46 GMT -5
you said yourself, the story is more accessible. Yeah, but if PhantomKnight hated VVitch and Lighthouse, he’s not gonna like this either. It’s still very much a Robert Eggers movie.
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Post by donny on Apr 23, 2022 7:20:28 GMT -5
I guess we’ll find out.
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Post by PG Cooper on Apr 23, 2022 7:42:57 GMT -5
you said yourself, the story is more accessible. Yeah, but if PhantomKnight hated VVitch and Lighthouse, he’s not gonna like this either. It’s still very much a Robert Eggers movie. Maybe, but sometimes people get into directors in strange ways. Fucking Knight of Cups was the Rosetta Stone that cracked Terrence Malick for me.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Apr 23, 2022 8:29:23 GMT -5
you said yourself, the story is more accessible. Yeah, but if PhantomKnight hated VVitch and Lighthouse, he’s not gonna like this either. It’s still very much a Robert Eggers movie. I didn’t hate either of them. The language of The Witch just kept me at a distance from it and The Lighthouse had some stuff I admired about it, but it got a bit too weird. From what I hear about this movie, yeah it’s still an Eggers movie but his style is more balanced out with the revenge narrative, so I’m willing to go in more open-minded to this. I’m not going in expecting just a straight up Braveheart style movie, but a Robert Eggers-style Viking revenge movie.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Apr 24, 2022 11:00:43 GMT -5
Double-featured Massive Talent and this yesterday, and finally, a Robert Eggers movie that really works for me! The First Act is the most heavily Eggers-y stuff in the film and had me a little nervous, but once the narrative jumps ahead and gets into the revenge plotline, everything got incredibly gripping. This is the kind of movie I needed to see from Eggers to help me get onboard more with his style. His sense of weirdness, this time, feels more entwined with the mythological roots of the story and compliment it better. That, and the story itself is just more legitimately involving. From the storytelling itself to the performances and especially to the action scenes, this movie rather consistently had me in its grip and didn't let go until the credits rolled. Pretty fucking rad.
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Post by frankyt on Apr 27, 2022 8:08:18 GMT -5
Did that mother fucker really do the breast stroke the whole way back to Iceland?
That action was slow and plodding, focusing on the brutality sure but damn some of those swings were telegraphed more than a wwe match.
That's a thumbs down. Eggers did not pull this off. Looked pretty at times, enjoyed the 'twist' but over long and exposition filled.
Did not dig it.
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Post by IanTheCool on Apr 30, 2022 9:12:53 GMT -5
The Northman is a real tour de force from Robert Eggers and is his best so far. Its a loose adaptation of Hamlet (or based on the same historical story, or whatever...) which had me worried. How many times have we seen the Hamlet story? Is this going to be a case where the trappings are great but the core story is too weak or familiar?
As it turns out my fears were unfounded. The story captivated me, and I found it to be one of the better arc progressions I'm seen in a film in a while. It really feels like a journey; not just physically, but emotionally as well.
The film has a great mix of historical grittiness and mythological undertones. It can get pretty weird with the visions but by the end of the movie you realize how important they are in building the fabric. The scenery is majestic, the fight scenes are brutal yet captivating, and it all seems to get better as it goes on.
The movie is not afraid to dig into the messiness of the story its following. It is a real examination of the idea of vengeance and duty. Anya Taylor Joy's Olga is a very important piece in this examination, and she was excellent. Egger's is not afraid to show is protagonist in a poor light, or so show sympathy for the antagonist. He's also not afraid to have us question everyone's motives and have characters make bad decisions to strengthen the themes.
Fantastic film.
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Post by IanTheCool on Apr 30, 2022 9:14:01 GMT -5
Y'all are crazy, this movie fucking rules
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Post by PhantomKnight on Apr 30, 2022 11:49:15 GMT -5
Y'all are crazy, this movie fucking rules Hell yeah, it does!
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Post by Dracula on May 1, 2022 12:10:54 GMT -5
The Northman(4/21/2022) Though he has a well-deserved reputation as one of the most creative minds in the history of world literature, most of William Shakespeare’s plays were derived from existing source stories that scholars have identified. His most famous play, “Hamlet,” is no exception to this. That play’s story is said to originate (possibly via some derivative works) in the legend of “Amleth” as chronicled in Saxo Grammaticus’ tome “Gesta Danorum” which was of course itself derived from existing apocryphal bits of Danish history and storytelling but is speculated to have ultimately derived from some sort of Icelandic source. Like Shakespeare’s character, Amleth found himself having to deal with a father slain by an uncle who then married his mother and needing to find a way to get his revenge and ultimately does it by feigning madness. Unlike Shakespeare’s character, Amleth is never really hesitant about wanting to kill the usurper uncle and there’s also some weird shit at the end about having to take multiple wives or something. Really though the bigger differences are probably cultural. Shakespeare’s Hamlet is nominally set in Denmark, but it might as well be set in Yorkshire for all Shakespeare knew about that place. He turned what was likely a pagan Viking legend and turned it into a very courtly and Christianized story. And this is likely what director Robert Eggers set out to correct with his new movie The Northman, which aims to “take back” the Amleth story by making it an even more savage story of revenge than even the original story.
This version of the Amleth story begins in the year 895 when Amleth (Alexander Skarsgård) is just an adolescent boy and his father King Aurvandill (Ethan Hawke) has just returned from war to greet him and Amleth’s mother Queen Gudrún (Nicole Kidman). Aurvandill is a bit weary from his raids and decides to put Amleth through a rite of passage ritual overseen by their shaman/jester Heimir (Willem Dafoe) that involves taking hallucinogens and embracing his inner animal totems and also then swearing to avenge his father if ever he were killed. This ends up coming into play sooner rather than later as right after they emerge from their ritual the king is attacked and killed by his brother Fjölnir (Claes Bang). Amleth escapes from the kingdom but right before he leaves he sees Fjölnir carrying away his mother. The film then flashes forward about fourteen years to Amleth in his fighting prime having joined up with a group of berserkers who are raiding villages in Rus when he hears that his uncle had left the kingdom he’d taken over through assassination and was now taking up on the Viking frontier of Iceland. Realizing that this was his chance to get revenge he infiltrates a slave ship heading to that farm intending to pose as a slave and plot his vengeance and along the way he meets a Rus slave woman named Olga (Anya Taylor-Joy) who offers to help him in his scheme.
The Northman was directed by Robert Eggers, who may well be the most exciting American filmmaker to emerge in the last ten years. His 2015 film The Witch was a major landmark of the “A24 Horror” trend and his 2019 film The Lighthouse was one of the most formally adventurous movies to ever open on 980 screens. It kind of seemed like he was a particularly canny horror guys but the real commonality between his movies seems to be his interest in history and folklore combined with some boldly uncompromising instincts during what would seem to be a highly risk averse era in American filmmaking. The Northman is in some ways less complicated than his previous works in that it is essentially an action movie with a revenge arc as its backbone, but in other ways this is his biggest risk yet in that he’s playing with a serious budget this time around. Reports have suggested that Focus Features made this movie for something in the range of 70 to 90 million dollars, so this isn’t a movie that can just live or die by being a cool indie, it’s in many ways a film that will decide both if he can work on large canvases going forward and also frankly if Hollywood sub-studios can afford to fund trippy historical epics even if they seemingly have a lot of bankable violence and action in them.
Robert Eggers is clearly something of a history buff but he’s not someone who’s interested in events so much as he’s interested in getting under the skin of the past cultures he depicts and rather than expose their beliefs as quaint he kind of engages with things on their level. Satan was very much at work in The Witch, nautical superstitions were to be taken very seriously in The Lighthouse, and here in The Northman Viking notions of fate and honor are vitally important though not completely unquestioned. I would almost compare it to 300 in the way that it kind of goes along with the ancient mindset of its characters, but the film’s visual style is way more earthy and realistic even if it isn’t afraid to kick some ass occasionally. Audiences willing to go along with some occasional tippyness can enjoy this movie as little more than a 21st Century Conan the Barbarian but its interest in deconstructing the Amleth story while still respecting it does I think elevate things: there’s a twist to the whole story at about the two thirds point which interestingly reminded me less of “Hamlet” than of an even older Greek Tragedy that I won’t name so as to avoid spoilers. Still, the film walks a tricky line, one could view it as a dumbed down version of what Eggers has done elsewhere and maybe be a bit disappointed in it or you can view it as one of the smartest and most ambitious mainstream action movies Hollywood has made in ages, which is maybe to overrate it. Ultimately of the three Robert Eggers movies it’s my third favorite, but man, if you’re going to sell out even a little this is definitely the right way to do it. **** out of Five
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Post by PG Cooper on May 1, 2022 12:41:09 GMT -5
Seeing this today.
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Post by Neverending on May 2, 2022 1:13:08 GMT -5
Yes. Watch it before Doctor Strange steals all the real estate.
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Post by Doomsday on May 29, 2022 19:23:30 GMT -5
Nude. Volcano. Fight.
Fun movie. Unfortunately it's very, very easy to compare this to the Vikings tv show in terms of overall look and aesthetic but definitely one of the better movies that's out right now.
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