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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 11, 2020 13:33:51 GMT -5
I feel like there needs to be more discussion about how other movies get onto the list. Like, having people make their pitches and try to convince everyone. Cool. We should each make cases for our picks next round. |
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Post by donny on Jul 11, 2020 13:51:42 GMT -5
Keep Annie, Kick Tootsie the F out.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 11, 2020 13:52:32 GMT -5
Cut and Cut
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Post by frankyt on Jul 11, 2020 13:53:47 GMT -5
Keep and cut.
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Post by thebtskink on Jul 11, 2020 18:09:28 GMT -5
Annie Hall is in 6-4, Tootsie is out 0-10. Next set up shortly.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 11, 2020 18:19:05 GMT -5
So much hate for Tootsie. I’m sure Big Momma’s House would have done better.
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Post by thebtskink on Jul 11, 2020 18:27:32 GMT -5
This pairing brought to you by fascist states and people dressing up very strangely:
Director: Bob Fosse Written by Joe Masteroff, John Van Drutun Starring: Liza Minelli, Michael York Genre: Musical, Drama
Does not appear on 2012's Sight and Sound Poll Does not appear on 1998's AFI Top 100
In Berlin in 1931, American cabaret singer Sally Bowles (Liza Minnelli) meets British academic Brian Roberts (Michael York), who is finishing his university studies. Despite Brian's confusion over his sexuality, the pair become lovers, but the arrival of the wealthy and decadent playboy Maximilian von Heune (Helmut Griem) complicates matters for them both. This love triangle plays out against the rise of the Nazi party and the collapse of the Weimar Republic.
Director: Stanley Kubrick Written by Stanley Kubrick, based on the novel by Anthony Burgess Starring: Malcolm McDowell, Patrick Magee Genre: Crime, Drama, Sci-fi
#46 on the 1998 AFI list
In an England of the future, Alex (Malcolm McDowell) and his "Droogs" spend their nights getting high at the Korova Milkbar before embarking on "a little of the old ultraviolence," while jauntily warbling "Singin' in the Rain." After he's jailed for bludgeoning the Cat Lady to death, Alex submits to behavior modification technique to earn his freedom; he's conditioned to abhor violence. Returned to the world defenseless, Alex becomes the victim of his prior victims.
My votes:
Cabaret: Cut. If anything Fosse should be on the list, it should be All That Jazz. I don't get the appearl of this movie.
A Clockwork Orange: I'm inclined to cut as it's barely an American movie. Stanley Kubrick and the financial backing are both American, but the filming and stars are all British. We have 2001 and Dr. Strangelove already kept, Shining voted in, and Spartacus is probably a shoe-in. I'm fine with cutting this movie.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 11, 2020 18:31:00 GMT -5
Cut and cut.
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Post by Doomsday on Jul 11, 2020 18:45:30 GMT -5
Cut Cabaret
Keep Clockwork Orange
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Post by Dracula on Jul 11, 2020 18:47:46 GMT -5
Cut Cabaret
Clockwork is on the bubble for me... going to say cut
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jul 11, 2020 19:04:49 GMT -5
Cut Cabaret. I agree with thebtskink - All That Jazz is a much more worthy Fosse film to include if it manages to get on.
Since we now have The Shining, cut A Clockwork Orange, too.
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 11, 2020 21:26:44 GMT -5
Cut Cabaret, though it is good.
Keep Clockwork.
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Post by IanTheCool on Jul 12, 2020 9:50:57 GMT -5
Cabaraet can go. And clockwork... hmm that's a tough one. I might need to hear SnoBorder's write up, but for now I'm going to say cut.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Jul 12, 2020 10:50:05 GMT -5
I abstain from voting regarding Cabaret, as I haven't seen it.
Keep A Clockwork Orange
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Post by donny on Jul 12, 2020 11:46:19 GMT -5
GTFO Cabaret. If were talkin Bob F. it should be All That Jazz.
Keep Clockwork
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Post by frankyt on Jul 12, 2020 12:04:50 GMT -5
Abstain.
Keep
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 12, 2020 12:30:41 GMT -5
I understand the impulse to cut Clockwork given we already have a lot of Kubrick, but I think it should stay. Certainly a milestone in pushing on-screen violence and the more complex morality of the New Hollywood. It's questions of how to fight crime and where the limits of the state should end are still extremely relevant. It's also just an exhilarating watch with an amazing central performance and some unforgettable scenes.
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Post by thebtskink on Jul 12, 2020 15:56:23 GMT -5
Clockwork Orange sitting at a 5-5 tie.
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Post by Doomsday on Jul 12, 2020 16:25:25 GMT -5
Clockwork Orange sitting at a 5-5 tie. come vote for Clockwork so we can get it across the finish line. I'm all for hot takes but the fact that Clockwork Orange might get cut is absurd. Come on guys, we're better than this. |
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Post by Neverending on Jul 12, 2020 16:29:01 GMT -5
Clockwork Orange sitting at a 5-5 tie. Keep |
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Post by thebtskink on Jul 12, 2020 16:29:23 GMT -5
Eh, it's a good movie. It's not a top 100 movie.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jul 12, 2020 16:37:09 GMT -5
And Kubrick already has enough on the list.
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 12, 2020 16:39:07 GMT -5
I'd happily cut Spartacus for Clockwork.
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Post by Doomsday on Jul 12, 2020 16:42:17 GMT -5
Me too.
And Spielberg will have Schindler's List, Jaws, Raiders and probably Saving Private Ryan and Close Encounters on the list. Scorsese will have Taxi Driver, Raging Bull and Goodfellas. I think Kubrick can keep 2001 and Clockwork with Shining on the side.
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