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Post by PG Cooper on Mar 8, 2020 19:18:07 GMT -5
73. Shutter IslandBecause ending be damned, this beast has atmosphere to spare, and is one of Scorsese's best exorcises in pure style.
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Post by PG Cooper on Mar 8, 2020 19:21:20 GMT -5
Two Affleck's back to back from Drac. I'm not surprised to see To the Wonder in your list, but I am a bit surprised to see it so high.
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Post by Dracula on Mar 8, 2020 19:37:50 GMT -5
Two Affleck's back to back from Drac. I'm not surprised to see To the Wonder in your list, but I am a bit surprised to see it so high. Weird how that turned out, also weird that they showed up right as his R-rated Basketball Mighty Ducks movie came out. As for To the Wonder, kind of a matter of perspective how high it is, any previous Malick movie would have easily danced into the top fifty or top twenty.
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Post by PG Cooper on Mar 8, 2020 20:50:03 GMT -5
Two Affleck's back to back from Drac. I'm not surprised to see To the Wonder in your list, but I am a bit surprised to see it so high. Weird how that turned out, also weird that they showed up right as his R-rated Basketball Mighty Ducks movie came out. As for To the Wonder, kind of a matter of perspective how high it is, any previous Malick movie would have easily danced into the top fifty or top twenty. Which raises the question of if we'll see Malick again in your list.
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Post by Dracula on Mar 8, 2020 21:18:24 GMT -5
Weird how that turned out, also weird that they showed up right as his R-rated Basketball Mighty Ducks movie came out. As for To the Wonder, kind of a matter of perspective how high it is, any previous Malick movie would have easily danced into the top fifty or top twenty. Which raises the question of if we'll see Malick again in your list. I don't think it's too much of a spoiler to say the answer is yes.
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 8, 2020 22:45:26 GMT -5
Tree of Life #3 behind Inception and Dark Knight Rises. Calling it now.
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Post by Dracula on Mar 8, 2020 22:49:25 GMT -5
Tree of Life #3 behind Inception and Dark Knight Rises. Calling it now. The Dark Knight Rises will not be on the list. Avengers: Infinity War will be the one and only superhero movie on the list.
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Post by Deexan on Mar 9, 2020 7:10:07 GMT -5
What wrong with Shutter's ending?
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Post by IanTheCool on Mar 9, 2020 8:27:31 GMT -5
That placing seems about right for gone girl. Solid thriller with some campy paperback novel tendencies.
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Post by PG Cooper on Mar 9, 2020 9:08:13 GMT -5
Tree of Life #3 behind Inception and Dark Knight Rises. Calling it now. The Dark Knight Rises will not be on the list. Avengers: Infinity War will be the one and only superhero movie on the list. How could you do Zack Snyder like that?
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Post by Dracula on Mar 9, 2020 9:13:30 GMT -5
The Dark Knight Rises will not be on the list. Avengers: Infinity War will be the one and only superhero movie on the list. How could you do Zack Snyder like that? He did it to himself when he made Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Mar 9, 2020 9:36:42 GMT -5
How could you do Zack Snyder like that? He did it to himself when he made Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice. Man of Steel works well enough as a standalone adventure that you can choose to ignore the follow-ups if you so desire.
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Post by Dracula on Mar 9, 2020 9:53:03 GMT -5
67. Us (2019) Year: 2019 Release Date: 3/22/2019 Director: Jordan Peele Writer(s): Jordan Peele Starring: Lupita Nyong'o, Winston Duke, Elisabeth Moss, and Tim Heidecker Based on: N/A Distributor: Universal Country of Origin: United States Language: English Running Time: 116 Minutes Aspect Ratio: 2.35:1 Among the most unpopular opinions I’ve had in the 2010s was that the movie Get Out was not the major achievement people seemed to think it was. As a horror movie I found it inert and as a political statement I found it obvious and that as a political statement it came about five years too late given that it was very much an artifact of the Obama era that came out in the first year to the Trump presidency. But Jordan Peele’s follow-up film Us worked a whole lot better for me. As a pure horror experience the film is significantly more intense than Peele’s earlier film while also feeling nicely unique from the rest of the decade’s horror cinema. What feels like a home invasion movie at first soon turns into a larger apocalyptic vision with this weird concept about a world being invaded by an army of doppelgangers that live underground, which makes no sense if you stop to think about it in any detail but it still just works in part because the movie almost operates on a certain Argento-esque nightmare logic by that point. The film is also most definitely making a political statement even if what that statement is isn’t necessarily super clear, but in a way that I like. Political horror movies are at their best when they give you a whole lot to chew on but leave a lot open to interpretation and debate, which is certainly the case with this one.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Mar 9, 2020 10:14:50 GMT -5
Us loses something for me when it becomes just a glorified slasher flick. Never been big on that sub genre of horror and even a director as clearly talented as Peele can only do so much with those tropes. Plus, I can't get fully onboard with the nightmare logic -- or the lack of it, maybe -- inherent in the film's mythology when you start to think about it.
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Post by Dracula on Mar 9, 2020 19:53:57 GMT -5
66. The Square (2017) Year: 2017 Release Date: 10/19/2017 Director: Ruben Östlund Writer(s): Ruben Östlund Starring: Claes Bang, Elisabeth Moss, Dominic West, and Terry Notary Based on: N/A Distributor: Magnolia Country of Origin: Sweden Language: Swedish Running Time: 151 Minutes Aspect Ratio: 1.85:1 General consensus is that Ruben Östlund’s 2014 film Force Majeure is one of the decade’s best films, but personally I think I prefer his follow-up, The Square. The film is a satire about the world of modern art, which is admittedly kind of an easy target. Certainly there are the expected scenes like the one where a janitor vacuums up a work of art believing it to simply be a mess on the floor, but there bigger point here isn’t to mock the art or artists but to sort of rib the wealthy class of people who control the museums and galleries. Specifically it’s about laying low its protagonist, a guy who ostensibly seems like a sort of ideal European intellectual rich guy but who over the course of the movie proves to be less smart and less able to live up to his ideals than he thinks. At the center is a piece of modern art called “The Square,” in which a square is drawn in the center of the floor with a plaque next to it which reads “The Square is a sanctuary of trust and caring. Within it we all share equal rights and obligations;” the implication of course being that outside of the square the world is cruel and that the square is probably only “safe” because it’s in the middle of a high class museum with hired security. But the main guy certainly doesn’t get that this is a critique of upper class bubbles and when he finds himself interacting with the real world he does it with the utmost privilege based obliviousness. Ultimately this is probably the thing that makes me relate to this more than Force Majeure: I don’t really worry too much about being proven to be less brave than I think I am, but I’m definitely scared shitless about being found to be less smart than I think I am.
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Post by PG Cooper on Mar 9, 2020 21:02:10 GMT -5
72. The SquareBecause sometimes life throws you interesting little coincidences like this.
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65. La La land (2016) Year: 2016 Release Date: 12/9/2016 Director: Damien Chazelle Writer(s): Damien Chazelle Starring: Ryan Gosling, Emma Stone, John Legend, and Rosemarie DeWitt Based on: N/A Distributor: Lionsgate Country of Origin: United States Language: English Running Time: 128 Minutes Aspect Ratio: 2.55:1 In the late January of 2017 Saturday Night Live put out a sketch in which Aziz Ansari is being interrogated for having committed the crime of having disliked the movie La La Land, with the implication being that that movie had overbearing fans. The irony to this is that the tides turned pretty heavily against La La Land within the discourse and by the time it lost Best Picture at the Oscars in memorable fashion it had sort of become the underdog. Today one would get a lot more side eye for saying you disliked Ansari’s movie of choice in that sketch: Moonlight. But La La Land has a lot more going for it than some of its initial critics gave it credit for. Filmmakers have been trying to find ways to make musicals blend with modern cinematic techniques for decades with more failures than successes so simply making a successful musical within a modern and somewhat realistic milieu is probably a pretty strong accomplishment in and of itself. Damien Chazelle mostly accomplishes this by turning away from the bubbly tone that we usually associate with Hollywood musicals and instead leans into the story’s melancholy while making the songs more like an extension of the film’s score than like separate show tunes. The film also makes the choice to tell a very simple story about love and ambition at its center which can be elevated through the film’s songs and through Chazelle’s control over tone. Some of the key set pieces in this thing like the opening and the Griffith Observatory sequence just look amazing and watching the film is just a perfect sensory experience even if it doesn’t necessarily leave you with a ton to chew on after the fact.
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Post by PG Cooper on Mar 10, 2020 13:13:50 GMT -5
71. Eighth GradeBecause this shit is more stressful than most full-blown thrillers.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Mar 10, 2020 13:15:57 GMT -5
71. Eighth GradeBecause this shit is more stressful than most full-blown thrillers. Damn right it is.
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Post by Dracula on Mar 10, 2020 18:20:33 GMT -5
64. Poetry (2010) Year: 2010 Release Date: 5/13/2010 Director: Lee Chang-dong Writer(s): Lee Chang-dong Starring: Yoon Jeong-hee, Lee David, Kim Hee-ra, and Ahn Nae-sang Based on: N/A Distributor: Kino International Country of Origin: South Korea Language: Korea Running Time: 139 Minutes Aspect Ratio: 1.85:1 In the last fifteen years South Korean cinema has come to major international prominence largely on the strength of some creative but accessible genre films but those are far from the only movies being produced there and Lee Chang-dong is among the leading voices of slower and more philosophical filmmaking in that country. His 2010 film Poetry is a pretty deep character study but a character study about a person who doesn’t spend a whole lot of time articulating her feelings openly in part because they’re a little too strong and deeply felt to simply articulate. The film concerns an old woman who has custody over a grandson who is the worst kind of teenager. He is wildly disrespectful of her, is seemingly going nowhere in life, and the grandmother eventually comes to learn that he and his awful friends did some terrible things to a girl who went on to kill herself. On top of that the woman has recently been diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease and likely won’t have full control of her mind for too much longer. It’s a movie about someone who has come to realize that much of what she could have wanted out of life has been a failure; her family is a mess and she feels indirectly responsible for someone’s death. So the movie is about coming to terms with life’s disappointments and trying to find some meaning with your last years even if you can’t really change the world.
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Post by Dracula on Mar 11, 2020 9:07:48 GMT -5
63. First Reformed (2017) Year: 2017 Release Date: 5/18/2017 Director: Paul Schrader Writer(s): Paul Schrader Starring: Ethan Hawke, Amanda Seyfried, Victoria Hill, Philip Ettinger, and Cedric Kyles Based on: N/A Distributor: A24 Country of Origin: United States Language: English Running Time: 113 Minutes Aspect Ratio: 1.33:1 In 2017 Paul Schrader was about as washed up as a director could possibly be. He had just gotten done making two direct-to-VOD Nicholas Cage movies and a strange and largely unwatched movie with Lindsey Lohan, and even before those low points he had spent the previous decade mostly making unwatched arthouse movies and a weird unreleased Exorcist prequel. So it was a surprise to say the least when he made a major comeback in the form of First Reformed, a film that was not only good but one of its year’s best. It is of course perhaps worth being a little suspicious about Schrader’s accomplishment because he is sort of using cheat codes to help gain the affection of critics. His film is chock to the brim with references to classics of world cinema like Diary of a Country Priest and Winter Light and it deals with some of the weighty themes of faith and isolation that made Schrader famous to begin with. It does, however, find ways to modernize a lot of what it repurposes like when it replaces Winter Light’s themes of nuclear age fears with worries about climate change. It’s a movie so strong and so appealing to its target audience that you have to wonder what drove Schrader to make so much schlock in the years leading up to it and to hope that there’s still time left for him to make more like it going forward.
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Post by PG Cooper on Mar 11, 2020 20:12:46 GMT -5
70. The Dark Knight RisesBecause this glorious mess of a movie is some of the most entertaining pure spectacle Hollywood's put out this century and it still manages to have a valid dramatic core.
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Word.
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Post by Dracula on Mar 11, 2020 20:57:07 GMT -5
62. Selma (2014) Year: 2014 Release Date: 5/18/2017 Director: Ava DuVernay Writer(s): Paul Webb Starring: David Oyelowo, Tom Wilkinson, Carmen Ejogo, Giovanni Ribisi, Alessandro Nivola, Cuba Gooding Jr., Tim Roth, and Oprah Winfrey Based on: N/A Distributor: Paramount Country of Origin: United States Language: English Running Time: 128 Minutes Aspect Ratio: 2.35:1 A lot of people have complained that Martin Luther King has fallen victim to a certain “Santa Clausification,” meaning that the culture has turned someone who was a radical protest leader into this harmless saintly figure. With her movie Selma I don’t think Ava DuVernay sought to completely overturn how people envision the civil rights leader but she certainly did seek to show exactly the amount of hard work he needed to do on the ground. Beyond that she used a single moment in history to really illustrate what goes into grassroots organizing. Like Spielberg’s Lincoln this isn’t really a biopic so much as a sprawling ensemble film showing every element of work that went into a moment that often gets painted as an individual achievement in history books. The film looks at the marches in Selma from the top to the bottom with the perspective of everyone from the president to the local protestors on the ground getting some representation in the film and despite that DuVernay manages to make the film manages to make these procedural elements consistently exciting, allowing the film to almost play out more like a thriller than a drama. This is in many ways what sets the film apart from the anodyne historical films that usually get shown in high schools and what makes this a much more challenging balancing act than it might seem at first glance.
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 11, 2020 21:03:13 GMT -5
I was with First Reformed up until a point. Then it lost me completely. Not a bad movie though.
And Coop, I admire your acknowledging that TDKR is as messy as it is entertaining. I agree on both counts.
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