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Post by FShuttari on Dec 27, 2019 19:43:34 GMT -5
Little Women - Review Thread
I took my wife to go see "Little Women" and ended up doing an impromptu review in the car with her after we got out of the movie. Check it out!
The movie is beautifully acted, thoughtfully directed adaptation of Alcott's beloved story about sisterhood, It's the type of film you take your wife or mom too, it does a great job at pulling at your heart-strings and uplifting your spirit this holiday season.
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I liked it.
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Post by Dracula on Jan 6, 2020 7:50:04 GMT -5
Little Women(12/31/2019)
If there’s any movie I’ve been kind of dreading this award season it was probably Greta Gerwig’s new adaptation of Little Women. Not because I thought it would be “bad” by any means, it’s been critically acclaimed, has a stellar cast, and is the follow-up from the director of the movie Lady Bird which I liked quite a bit. So I had little doubt it would be well crafted, but what really had me dreading it is that I worried it would be a movie that I wouldn’t really be in a position to analyze or talk about all that intelligently. I’ve never read Louisa May Alcott’s novel of “Little Women.” It wasn’t assigned to me in school and have never been enough of a “classics” buff to read it of my own volition. I have seen a handful of its various film adaptations in passing and they’ve never done much for me and I even rewatched a couple of them in the last month in an attempt to get a better grasp of the story and the different ways to interpret them and they still didn’t really connect with me all that much. It just seems like one of those public domain books that gets kind of mindlessly remade over and over again on the big and small screen without much alteration every single generation like the works of Jane Austen and Charles Dickens. But I certainly wasn’t going to skip something this big and talked about out of reviewer cowardice.
The film’s plot is largely unchanged from the story we’ve heard before. The film is set in Concord, Massachusetts during the Civil War and a few years after and looks at a household where a mother (Laura Dern) is looking after her four daughters while her husband (Bob Odenkirk) is serving in the Union army. Those daughters are the traditionalist Meg (Emma Watson), the tomboyish Jo (Saoirse Ronan), the shy Beth (Eliza Scanlen), and the troublemaker Amy (Florence Pugh). The family isn’t poor exactly but it’s hardly rich and they do have more well off relatives like their snobby Aunt Josephine (Meryl Streep) and also live across the way from the estate of a wealthy man named Mr. Laurence (Chris Cooper), who is the guardian for his grandson Laurie (Timothée Chalamet) who comes to befriend the girls. Love triangles ensue and the girls eventually grow up and grow apart but certain bonds can only be broken so far.
Of all the adaptations there have been of this novel the one with the longest legacy up to this point was probably George Cukor’s Academy Award nominated 1933 version. That was not the first adaptation of the film (they’ve been remaking this since the silent era) but it was a major hit even if it’s probably less famous for its Alcott reworking than for how it fit into a sort of culture war that was brewing in Hollywood at the time. This was during the “pre-code” era and there was a lot of controversy at the time about the gangster movies and sex comedies coming out of the major studios at the time and this version of Little Women was being celebrated in certain circles as a conservative alternative that celebrated family values. Elements like Jo’s tomboyishness were still there (she was being played by Katherine Hepburn after all) but at its heart it is still very much a family movie with an emphasis on wholesome sentimentality and to some degree that’s also the case with the 1949 version (which is pretty much only notable for being in color) and the 1994 version which is shockingly sincere and straightforward for something starring Winona Ryder in the mid-90s. And that is more or less why I’ve never cared for these movies, they all kind of feel like they’ve all kind of felt like they exist to be played in middle school English classes and even when they depict tragedy they just feel kind of cloying.
Enter Greta Gerwig, who hasn’t made Little Women any less PG rated than her predecessors but has in many ways made the first adaptation of this thing that seems to be directed toward adult sensibilities. The clearest alteration that Gerwig has made is that she took the chronological narrative from the book and adjusted it into something closer to a flashback structure. The first scene is of Jo as an adult in New York working as a tutor while trying to get stories published and we also catch up with Amy in Paris, Meg dealing with her marital woes, and Beth having health problems. It then flashes back to their youth and the movie cuts between the two timelines through the rest of the movie. I’ve heard some reports of people finding this format confusing, and I may have benefited somewhat from seeing previous adaptations, but I thought it was pretty clear and also that the way this benefits the story more than outweigh any drawbacks. For one, it really helps to define the personalities of these four sisters right up front by showing them when they’re more developed. Previous adaptations struggled in this regard; they were able to make Jo’s differences clear enough with her tomboyish qualities but the other three sisters kind of blended together when they were just a bunch of children playing without extensive dialogue or internal monologue. Additionally, knowing from the beginning where these characters end up kind of ups the stakes on the childhood sections, which could often feel a bit episodic and aimless in the other adaptations where you don’t have a clearer end goal. And finally this allows those childhood flashbacks to feel more like pleasant memories than sappiness played straight and that somewhat plays into why I consider this adaptation to be more adult in its outlook than previous versions.
Needless to say there’s plenty that goes right here that has little to do with radical reinvention and everything to do with just getting certain things right. It certainly doesn’t hurt that Gerwig has assembled an all-star cast of actors young and old. Saoirse Ronan, Emma Watson, and Florence Pugh are a pretty unimpeachable trio to play the main sisters and Timothée Chalamet in many ways seems to have been born to one day play Laurie. I will say that Laura Dern and Bob Odenkirk seem to struggle a little bit here, in part because they’re playing overly virtuous and altruistic characters who don’t fit as well in this slightly more cynical interpretation of the source material, but other actors playing adults here like Meryl Streep and Tracy Letts do work well here and add fun little diversions to the film. Gerwig has also done a great job of making adjustments to the period detail that make things feel less stuffy without feeling overly anachronistic and Alexandre Desplat’s jaunty score really helps to make things flow well. I also must say that even though the film is only fifteen to twenty minutes longer than any of the previous adaptations of the novel it sure feels like it has more breathing room which goes a long way toward making the story flow more naturally.
Now, I mentioned before that the 1933 Little Women was received as a conservative vision insomuch as it was family friendly so it is perhaps a bit of an irony that this latest version re-interprets the novel as something that was actually rather subversive, particularly in terms of how it viewed the role of women in its society. Some extra lines are written into the film to underscore this which do kind of stand out and feel a touch on the nose but I don’t exactly begrudge the movie for. I am a bit more on the fence about what the film does with its final moments in which (spoiler I guess) Jo is re-written to have become the author of a novel based on the lives of her sisters that is basically the novel “Little Women” (an idea the 1994 film also had) and a metatexual element takes over where a cigar comping publisher demands that this book be given the happy romantic ending that the real Louisa May Alcott was pressured into having, which then effects the final ending of the movie. This feels a bit like an out of place attempt on Gerwig’s part to have her cake and eat it too given that nothing else in the movie up to this point is trying to be particularly meta. On the other hand, that other ending legitimately does kind of suck and letting it play out sincerely like the other films do would not have been a satisfying end. So, at the end of the day I think my worries about not being able to engage with an analyze this movie were for naught and in many ways it’s actually a lot better than I had even hoped.
****1/2 out of Five
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Post by frankyt on Jan 7, 2020 11:46:15 GMT -5
What a delight.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jan 7, 2020 12:05:01 GMT -5
Wow. Really must be good if even franky liked it.
Aiming to get both this and 1917 knocked out before the nominations on Monday.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jan 7, 2020 17:53:14 GMT -5
When it was announced that director Greta Gerwig's followup to her acclaimed 2017 debut film, Ladybird, would be an adaptation of Louisa May Alcott's famous classic novel, Little Women, there was oddly some disappointment around the film world. People questioned why after making such a personal project that Gerwig would then turn to the work of someone else, as if Little Women wasn't also a deeply personal and large part of Gerwig's life that she wanted to adapt to the big screen. Yes, there had been film adaptations before Gerwig's, none of which I've seen and none of which are highly regarded in any fashion, so why not let Gerwig take a crack at adapting a novel she knows inside and out? And we should all be very thankful that she did, as Gerwig has greatly developed her cinematic techniques since Ladybird and has guided a stellar cast to an excellent film that I couldn't believe, being not highly familiar with the material, how great it all was. The characters, especially the sisters at the core of the story, are so expertly defined that I could easily decipher all of their passions, faults, and sense of place in the world Alcott and Gerwig created. Gerwig's decision to move away from linear storytelling and weave in and out of different timelines pays off in a huge way, allowing her and the viewer to focus our attention on specific moments that have gotten the characters to where they are as opposed to an overarching detailing of a family and their progression. Gerwig has created a faithful and tonally true adaptation of her favorite novel, but has thankfully not been afraid to deviate from it when necessary and create something stronger as a result. Little Women not only demonstrates Gerwig's increasingly apparent talent as a filmmaker with a wonderful cinematic voice, but is a triumph in the difficult field of adapting classic novels that is undoubtedly one of the year's and decade's best films.
Little Women is about the modest March family living in Concord, Massachusetts during and after the American Civil War. While all of the family members are interesting and unique in their own ways, our protagonist is undoubtedly Jo (Saoirse Ronan), who we first meet later in the events of the novel getting her work published. She's a writer and uncompromising in pursuing her dreams and reestablishing notions of women in society needing to be tethered by men or what they deem to be acceptable. Her rival sister, Amy (Florence Pugh), dreams of being a great painter but is also more acquiescent than Jo in pursuing ventures for financial security and the affection of men. Meg (Emma Watson) has some talent as an actress but thinks of it as little more than a reckless fantasy and is perfectly content with a traditional but happy life. The final sister, Beth (Eliza Scanlen), is often referred to by her sisters as "the best of us all", and spends most of her time playing the ornate piano across the street in the lavish home of Mr. Laurence (Chris Cooper) and his restless grandson, Laurie (Timothee Chalamet). Their differing views on what constitutes a fulfilled life and how to pursue their dreams lead to great dramatic clashes but also fortifies the bond that each of them have. While I can certainly be counted among the skeptical that this PG-rated film wouldn't be tonally shifting from syrup to melodrama, I'm thankful to say that this isn't the case at all and all of the various twists and turns that the story takes and the dramatic weight behind them always feel earned. The characters also benefit from Gerwig focusing her themes on some tastefully modern examinations that while not veering into rose-colored, nostalgia-based critiques of the past strengthen Alcott's own ideas of what a women's role in the world can even be defined as. Is there a wrong way as long as you're living the life you want for yourself? I think Gerwig has handled this idea in very insightful fashion, and each of the girls represent cases that can be made for intriguing think pieces on the subject.
Obviously with a cast like this, the film boasts some absolutely terrific performances all around. Ronan and Pugh play off one another exceptionally well, both of whom alternate unbridled optimism and dour cynicism with an added air of stubbornness between them. These are two of the best young actresses in the game right now, and it's no coincidence that Jo and Amy are the most dynamic and interesting characters in the film as a result. Chalamet is also wonderful as the rambunctious Laurie, masking his inner turmoil of longing for Jo by displaying outlandish behavior and his general disposition at the stuffiness of his income class. Meryl Streep is her usual excellence playing the role of Aunt March, a rich old spinster who provides a lot of laughs and warranted putdowns of her less endowed family members. Aunt March also represents the idea of women's place in society that Jo and the younger generation are serving as iconoclasts toward, and it's another example of Gerwig providing thoughtful modernizations of these themes that still flow exceptionally well within the realm of the time period. Gerwig has given so much life to each of these characters that the film pulls off the rare feat in a largely ensemble film where I actually came away feeling like I knew each and every one of them, even down to Mr. Laurence. Little Women is brimming with detail, authenticity, and depth, and what Gerwig has accomplished in adapting the novel with this much ingenuity is incredible.
Gerwig has also brought an exceptional piece of technical prowess to the film, showing off dazzlingly physical camera work and stationary tableaus awash in the golden tones of New England summers. It has the look of vintage glass, even down to wonderful aberrations that cause a nice vignetting to the image that provide the film the dreamy yet classical look it needed to stay true to the novel. The film is also set to a wonderful compositional score that perfectly accentuates every dramatic beat and is certainly among the best work of the year. It's always such a relief when a filmmaker in their sophomore effort have not only proven they're more than just their initial film but have grown considerably stronger as an artist as well, and that's certainly the case with Greta Gerwig. What she's been able to accomplish here, from corralling such a talented cast to a cohesive tone to layering these many characters with so much depth all while weaving in and out of a nonlinear timeline is simply amazing. 2017's big new directors were certainly Gerwig and Jordan Peele with their respective launches of Ladybird and Get Out, and it's funny that both of them released their next films this year. Peele's Us was a definite step back from Get Out and didn't show me that he'd really grown much as a filmmaker in-between despite the intentions of that film being good ones. Gerwig on the other hand has done just the opposite with Little Women, exceeding all expectations I had for this film and displaying exceptional growth in every aspect of being a filmmaker. Go in with your cynicism, your doubt that this PG-rated film could be this great. I know I certainly did, and now I know never to doubt Greta Gerwig again.
9/10
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jan 7, 2020 18:08:11 GMT -5
That's a 10/10
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Post by Neverending on Jan 7, 2020 18:10:27 GMT -5
That's a 10/10 Go watch PG Cooper’s favorite movie, Fighting With My Family.
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Post by frankyt on Jan 7, 2020 19:06:46 GMT -5
Pugh def steals the show, she's great as Amy.
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Post by Neverending on Jan 7, 2020 19:40:11 GMT -5
Pugh def steals the show, she's great as Amy. Zach Braff is bangin’ her. Don’t know why Baby Yoda creator Doomsday isn’t bangin’ her. What does Zach Braff have that Doomsday doesn’t? That royalty check from Baby Yoda merch will kick in real soon.
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Post by Doomsday on Jan 7, 2020 20:14:10 GMT -5
Pugh def steals the show, she's great as Amy. Zach Braff is bangin’ her. Don’t know why Baby Yoda creator Doomsday isn’t bangin’ her. What does Zach Braff have that Doomsday doesn’t? That royalty check from Baby Yoda merch will kick in real soon. I have a pretty good idea what Zach Braff has that I don't. And it's not just $$$.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jan 7, 2020 21:11:49 GMT -5
Zach Braff is bangin’ her. Thanks for ruining my day. But also... giving me hope.
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Post by Neverending on Jan 7, 2020 21:46:59 GMT -5
Zach Braff is bangin’ her. Thanks for ruining my day. But also... giving me hope. Y’all were both in Georgia - and you had Wesley Snipes as a wingman. Don’t fuck up again.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jan 12, 2020 16:29:19 GMT -5
Liked it, didn’t love it. It’s not like I can’t see why others do, though. The acting is pretty superb throughout and the main trio of Ronan, Watson and Pugh each give terrific and endearing performances that stand on their own while also complimenting each other very well. Greta Gerwig injects a nice amount of life into the story and her message here is effecting while avoiding being too on the nose...but ultimately, I didn’t really get swept up in the story all that much and despite Gerwig’s best efforts, I was still feeling a certain degree of stuffiness that was lingering throughout. I was still charmed by the characters, though, and enjoyed seeing them interact with one another, and Gerwig’s direction is still more than competent, so this is still worthy of a recommendation at the end of the day.
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Post by Neverending on Jan 12, 2020 18:33:39 GMT -5
Liked it, didn’t love it. It’s not like I can’t see why others do, though. The acting is pretty superb throughout and the main trio of Ronan, Watson and Pugh each give terrific and endearing performances that stand on their own while also complimenting each other very well. Greta Gerwig injects a nice amount of life into the story and her message here is effecting while avoiding being too on the nose...but ultimately, I didn’t really get swept up in the story all that much and despite Gerwig’s best efforts, I was still feeling a certain degree of stuffiness that was lingering throughout. I was still charmed by the characters, though, and enjoyed seeing them interact with one another, and Gerwig’s direction is still more than competent, so this is still worthy of a recommendation at the end of the day. ***/****Whaaat?
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Post by PG Cooper on Jan 12, 2020 18:39:57 GMT -5
Much as Lady Bird has only gotten better over time, I wasn't quite as excited for Greta Gerwig's follow-up as I felt I should be. I've never read Louisa May Alcott's novel, but I have seen both the 1933 and 1994 film adaptations of Little Women and while each have their strengths, the underlying story never really spoke to me. As such, I found myself sort of wishing Gerwig was doing something different. But having finally seen the film, I can honestly say my concerns were unwarranted. Gerwig's adaptation of Little Women is wonderful, a warm hug of a movie that's among 2019's best. Gerwig is largely faithful to the source material (at least she seems to be - again, I'm a novice here) but the major change she makes is adapting a flashback structure with parallel stories following the March sisters seven years apart. This change helps give the largely episodic early adventures of the sisters a much stronger focus and it also helps distinguish the characters more quickly.
Crucial too is the cast, who are largely excellent. Saoirse Ronan anchors the film well but this is really an ensemble piece, with Florence Pugh kind of stealing the show here. The older actors also make for a nice presence, but it's really the young characters that drive the story. Ronan, Pugh, Emma Watson, Eliza Scanlen, and Timothée Chalamet all craft well-rounded characters and show a lot of range. Little Women is also a beautifully shot film which uses subtle changes in colour to distinguish its time periods and is generally full of energy and joy. Gerwig emphasizes movement with both her actors and her camera, while the performances are just full of life. The whole thing is just a deeply enjoyable cinematic experience.
In terms of Gerwig's work, I might prefer Lady Bird for its originality (the fact that it's proven highly rewatchable certainly helps) but the way Gerwig has breathed new life into a classic with a film that may well go down as the greatest adaptation of Little Women ever made is nothing to sneeze at. What a lovely film.
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Clearly you tripped walking up the stairs at the movie theatre and hit your head. Did you seek medical attention. Your brain might be swollen.
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Clearly you tripped walking up the stairs at the movie theatre and hit your head. Did you seek medical attention. Your brain might be swollen. I'm perfectly fine. Though there seems to be a conspiracy wherein everybody else's theaters had something filtering in through the air vents. Don't worry, guys. I'm on the case.
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Clearly you tripped walking up the stairs at the movie theatre and hit your head. Did you seek medical attention. Your brain might be swollen. I'm perfectly fine. Though there seems to be a conspiracy wherein everybody else's theaters had something filtering in through the air vents. Don't worry, guys. I'm on the case. No. I get it. #ChristianBaleIsYourTeddy
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jan 12, 2020 19:51:02 GMT -5
Da fuq?
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