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Post by thebtskink on Oct 24, 2020 18:56:15 GMT -5
It's on Prime - for this 1979 version I see the actors did a version in German and one in English (assuming not dubbed) - anyone have a strong preference in what they've seen?
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Post by Dracula on Oct 24, 2020 19:04:55 GMT -5
It's on Prime - for this 1979 version I see the actors did a version in German and one in English (assuming not dubbed) - anyone have a strong preference in what they've seen? They are separate versions with the actors speaking the two languages rather than a dub job and are basically the same movie aside from the language. I generally stick to the German version as I largely view the film as being in dialog with German film history and that viewing it in English kind of goes against that purpose but that might just be in my head.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Oct 24, 2020 19:11:00 GMT -5
Watch the English version dubbed into Korean.
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 24, 2020 19:30:41 GMT -5
German version is better IMO.
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 24, 2020 22:12:27 GMT -5
Alright, i'm gonna go "Nosferatu the Vampyre" as the first option, "Dead Ringers" for the second. For you, why not a horror/scifi theme as well, with some thrillers that don't quite fit that bill. Some of these may also be on Shudder, but the sites that tell me where things are streaming don't have much of an insight into that service. The Last Broadcast (1998) - Prime In the Mouth of Madness (1995) - Rental on Prime, but looks like it may be on Shudder Coherence (2013) - Prime Kill List (2011) - Rental, but looks like it may be on Shudder Let's Scare Jessica to Death (1973) - Criterion The Ghost Ship (1943) - Rental, no idea if anywhere else Society (1989) - Prime The House of the Devil (2009) - Prime, or Shudder One False Move (1992) - Rental, no idea if anywhere else Southbound (2015) - Shudder Let me know if you need another list. Lots of good stuff here. I think I'll do Society.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 24, 2020 23:04:48 GMT -5
Lots of good stuff here. I think I'll do Society.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Oct 25, 2020 6:50:30 GMT -5
Society was also on The Last Drive-In on Shudder.
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 26, 2020 19:55:48 GMT -5
SocietySociety is an 80s piece of body horror which has become infamous for its wild third act of grotesque special effects and visuals. The movie that precedes this climax is interesting in its own right, offering an engaging little conspiracy/mystery of a secret society investigated by a high school student who feels disconnected from his peers. It's an engaging yarn with some interesting visuals hinting at the horror to come, even if certain threads don't seem to matter all that much. The movie also has a rather outlandish sense of humour which, though amusing at points, is perhaps overemphasized. But really, all that matters is the third act where the body horror really comes to the forefront. No spoilers, but this third act really lived up to the hype, with a climax of ingenious visuals and effects which are truly stomach churning. The movie also some (extraordinarily on the nose) class commentary which has its value, but the focus here is really on the ending. It's not a movie I'd recommend to everyone and it's definitely sloppy, but if you're into body horror it's well worth a look. B+
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Post by PhantomKnight on Oct 26, 2020 21:19:30 GMT -5
Just in case you missed it, frankyt.
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Post by frankyt on Oct 27, 2020 8:38:20 GMT -5
Prob take marathon man. PhantomKnightFeast 2005 Dead ringers 1988 Bone tomahawk 2015 Funny games 1997 Ghost stories 2017 Extra ordinary 2019
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Post by 1godzillafan on Oct 27, 2020 10:42:16 GMT -5
For what it's worth, PhantomKnight, I don't think you'd like Feast. Ghost Stories might be more your speed. Assuming frankyt means this one and not the Indian one on Netflix with the same title.
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Post by frankyt on Oct 27, 2020 10:46:08 GMT -5
Feast so fun tho. Hard to find anywhere however. Isn't even available to rent on google last I checked.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Oct 27, 2020 11:39:24 GMT -5
Feast so fun tho. Hard to find anywhere however. Isn't even available to rent on google last I checked. Oh like Feast a lot, but it's there are a lot of taste requirements that to fall into place to embrace that movie.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 27, 2020 11:47:35 GMT -5
Are we talking about Feast, the Project Greenlight movie? Doomsday is a big fan of that show/movie.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Oct 27, 2020 11:57:43 GMT -5
Are we talking about Feast, the Project Greenlight movie? Doomsday is a big fan of that show/movie. Blood, semen, and all.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Oct 27, 2020 12:39:03 GMT -5
Prob take marathon man. PhantomKnight Feast 2005 Dead ringers 1988 Bone tomahawk 2015 Funny games 1997 Ghost stories 2017 Extra ordinary 2019 Been meaning to watch Bone Tomahawk for a looooooooooong time. I think I'll go with that...but I might just sneak in either Ghost Stories or Extra Ordinary as well. We'll see.
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Post by Doomsday on Oct 27, 2020 12:40:36 GMT -5
Are we talking about Feast, the Project Greenlight movie? Doomsday is a big fan of that show/movie. Blood, semen, and all. Blood and Semen is the name of my memoir.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Oct 27, 2020 12:41:16 GMT -5
Blood and Semen is the name of my memoir. Blood in My Semen is the name of mine.
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Post by Doomsday on Oct 27, 2020 12:44:04 GMT -5
That’s more concerning than it is horrific. You should get that checked out. Kidney stones maybe?
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Post by frankyt on Oct 27, 2020 12:46:05 GMT -5
thebtskink Finished in the mood for love. What a delight. Will post more later tonight when I get back from running around but I've already got all the songs stuck in my head, and the cinematography was a real stand out. 8/10
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Post by 1godzillafan on Oct 27, 2020 12:50:45 GMT -5
That’s more concerning than it is horrific. You should get that checked out. Kidney stones maybe? Probably chronic masturbation.
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Post by Dracula on Oct 28, 2020 7:35:17 GMT -5
Bad Hair (2020) There’s a lot about the black experience that has been talked about more widely in recent years that many white people (myself included) were rather oblivious about. One of those things is the amount of anxiety that African Americans, especially African American women, have about had about their hair compared to traditional Western standards of beauty. This was first brought to my attention in Chris Rock’s 2009 documentary Good Hair and with the proliferation of social media it came to my attention that white women asking to touch black women’s hair was a widespread micro-aggression. This was also a prominent topic of discussion in the 2014 film Dear White People, which was directed by Justin Simien and is a central theme in his follow-up, a satirical horror film called Bad Hair. The film is set in 1989 and focuses on a woman working at a fictional music video channel that is most likely based on BET but she finds herself feeling marginalized and disrespected by her boss white boss until a co-worker tells her to buy a weave. Long story short, the weave she ends up with is evil and has a life of its own and starts killing people. The basic high concept is not dissimilar from a Treehouse of Horror segment of “The Simpsons” where homer gets an evil toupee, which was itself a parody of an Amazing Stories segment, but obviously there’s more of a political edge to this version. Unfortunately I’m not sure that Simien was ever quite able to dig too deep beneath the rather obvious surface of his rather outlandish concept. I don’t think the movie has much to say about the effects of Eurocentric beauty standards beyond the fact that they bring black women stress and are a tool of inequality and the movie is never particularly scare or suspenseful. Also this “music video channel in 1989” milieu should be a lot more fun than it is. The film doesn’t seem to have had the budget to obtain much of the actual music from the era and never makes the behind the scenes goings on seem rather uninteresting. Things do pick up a little in the film’s last twenty minutes or so and it does eventually get to some slightly interesting visuals with the hair taking on a life of its own, but the movie had pretty well lost me already by then. I will grant that unlike Dear White People (which, as the title suggests was at least partly meant to me a message to outsiders) this was probably meant to be more of a furtherance of an internal dialogue within the black community and was not really made for me and that there may well be things here I’m not picking up on, but I can’t really judge the movie based on how others will receive it and from my perspective it never really worked. ** out of Five
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Post by Doomsday on Nov 1, 2020 1:04:26 GMT -5
The Friends of Eddie Coyle
Watching Robert Mitchum play a beat down, dejected criminal is a different type of role than I'm used to seeing him typically play. I'm familiar with most of his big roles like in Out of the Past or Night of the Hunter where his persona and physical appearance combined with his distinct voice make him such a presence on screen. In The Friends of Eddie Coyle he still has his trademarks but rather than playing a tough gumshoe, insane criminal or hardened gunslinger he's a down and out hood who's still sitting near the bottom rung of the ladder. It almost feels like a role that would be beneath a movie star like him as I certainly could never see a comparable actor like John Wayne or Clint Eastwood take a role like this. But Eddie Coyle is a role that's written for an actor, not a tough guy and Robert Mitchum tries to approach this role as an actor first.
I need to admit I've been wavering on this movie. On the one hand it's an interesting piece in that it's not really about the mob or a particular crime or even a character arc. It's about a low-level, middle aged criminal Eddie (Mitchum) who's about to go to prison for a couple years leaving his wife and kids behind to presumably go on welfare while he's away. In order to get an easier sentence he feeds information to a detective to make busts, namely turning into a rat. You normally wouldn't see a movie centered around a guy like Eddie. He's not a particularly interesting character, he doesn't have some grand scheme up his sleeve in order to trick everybody, in a way he's kind of a pathetic person. He's even trying to worm out of a jail sentence that's really not that long of a stretch and attempts to set up his contacts to get out of it. At a point in the movie I asked myself 'why are we watching this guy?' Then as the dominos fall into place and we see that nobody is really on Eddie's side it's clear that the old adage 'there's no honor among thieves' greatly applies to this film.
Eddie Coyle is an interesting little movie that had me on the fence when I finished it. The ending is pretty bleak in that we follow a guy trying to claw his way out of a hole only to get beat down once again but at the same time it's a movie where the main character isn't meant to be all that sympathetic despite how desperate and vulnerable he's made to be. There are definitely some layers to this movie and it's enjoyable typing this, peeling them back and fleshing it out. It really makes me wonder how and why someone would make a movie like this and whether I'm interpreting it the way it was meant to be interpreted. Yes, interesting indeed.
B+ so says Doomsday
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Post by Nilade on Nov 1, 2020 3:18:54 GMT -5
Bad Hair (2020)
There’s a lot about the black experience that has been talked about more widely in recent years that many white people (myself included) were rather oblivious about. One of those things is the amount of anxiety that African Americans, especially African American women, have about had about their hair compared to traditional Western standards of beauty. This was first brought to my attention in Chris Rock’s 2009 documentary Good Hair and with the proliferation of social media it came to my attention that white women asking to touch black women’s hair was a widespread micro-aggression. This was also a prominent topic of discussion in the 2014 film Dear White People, which was directed by Justin Simien and is a central theme in his follow-up, a satirical horror film called Bad Hair. The film is set in 1989 and focuses on a woman working at a fictional music video channel that is most likely based on BET but she finds herself feeling marginalized and disrespected by her boss white boss until a co-worker tells her to buy a weave. Long story short, the weave she ends up with is evil and has a life of its own and starts killing people. The basic high concept is not dissimilar from a Treehouse of Horror segment of “The Simpsons” where homer gets an evil toupee, which was itself a parody of an Amazing Stories segment, but obviously there’s more of a political edge to this version. Unfortunately I’m not sure that Simien was ever quite able to dig too deep beneath the rather obvious surface of his rather outlandish concept. I don’t think the movie has much to say about the effects of Eurocentric beauty standards beyond the fact that they bring black women stress and are a tool of inequality and the movie is never particularly scare or suspenseful. Also this “music video channel in 1989” milieu should be a lot more fun than it is. The film doesn’t seem to have had the budget to obtain much of the actual music from the era and never makes the behind the scenes goings on seem rather uninteresting. Things do pick up a little in the film’s last twenty minutes or so and it does eventually get to some slightly interesting visuals with the hair taking on a life of its own, but the movie had pretty well lost me already by then. I will grant that unlike Dear White People (which, as the title suggests was at least partly meant to me a message to outsiders) this was probably meant to be more of a furtherance of an internal dialogue within the black community and was not really made for me and that there may well be things here I’m not picking up on, but I can’t really judge the movie based on how others will receive it and from my perspective it never really worked. ** out of Five I just saw the trailer for this today. It looks similar to the Japanese horror film Exte, which is also about killer hair extensions. It starred Chiyaki Kuriyama from Kill Bill and Battle Royale.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Nov 1, 2020 18:10:03 GMT -5
Bone Tomahawk (2015)There were two things about Bone Tomahawk that I'd heard before sitting down to watch it: one was that it was sort of a genre combination between Western and Horror, and the second was that it's incredibly violent. The first claim I wouldn't say is entirely true, but the second? Oh, absolutely. But the violence is so intense that I can see how people would think of it as horror. The movie tells the story of four men from a Western village (Kurt Russell, Patrick Wilson, Richard Jenkins and Matthew Fox) who venture out into the rough terrain to locate and rescue one of the men's kidnapped wife, who was taken by a group of cannibalistic tribespeople. This film is sort of noteworthy in that it introduced us to a writer-director named S. Craig Zahler, who certainly wasted no time by having this debut of his show off his uncompromising style. Yes, when it comes to the violence here, Bone Tomahawk depicts these scenes in such frankly and brutally realistic fashion, that it leaves the viewer with no choice but to look away from the screen at times -- and that doesn't happen to me often. The Third Act, and sort of end-of-Second Act, of this movie especially contains some stuff that I'd imagine would put lots of slasher movies to shame. But I have to give Zahler credit for just going for it and not giving two shits if it makes you squirm. The question then becomes, is the rest of the movie around said violence worthy of justifying such scenes? And I'd say yes. In glancing at a lot of other people's opinions of this movie, a common complaint seems to be that it moves too slow in the middle. To a degree, I agree; about 10-15 minutes could've maybe been trimmed. However, I don't mind the slower pace so much in large part because I was so invested in these characters. They're all rendered in a very compelling manner and have good exchanges with one another, which is another hallmark of the film: Zahler's script. It has some really strong dialogue throughout that feels authentic to the time and often pretty clever and even witty, but not in a distracting way. Kurt Russell remains the consummate cool badass he usually plays. Patrick Wilson works as the emotional center of the story and Richard Jenkins kind of steals the show a lot of the time. They're a winning combination and helped carry me through the more deliberate pace of the middle. I'm kind of sorry that it took me so long to see Bone Tomahawk, but I'm glad I finally did because it's pretty awesome. It definitely makes me want to check out S. Craig Zahler's other two films.
***1/2 /****
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