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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 11, 2019 22:43:54 GMT -5
Agreed. The Academy's Snub is absurd.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 12, 2019 5:56:04 GMT -5
Agreed. The Academy's Snub is absurd. It's particularly jarring given that that's the one branch that actually seems to watch all the movies.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 12, 2019 21:43:52 GMT -5
Best Sound Design
I always dread this category because it’s frankly looking at something I don’t feel overly qualified to judge and isn’t something I’m paying a whole lot of attention to through the year. The category is a mix of editing and mixing and… let’s just get this over with. Avengers: Infinity War: This year I’ve tried to avoid simply nominating the five loudest blockbusters I could find but I did feel there should be one movie nominated for sheer audio bombast and this year that meant a nomination for the latest Avengers movie. Like with all of the Avengers movies this film had the challenge of taking each unique audio challenge from all of these Marvel films and make them all interact properly. A Quiet Place: This would be a situation where the absence of sound in certain places draws a lot of extra attention to the sound that is there. For example, a big part of the plot is that the characters need to carefully make sure their footsteps aren’t too loud, so the audience will actually be paying attention to make sure they’ve included custom footsteps for every surface. There are other challenges as well, like constructing how the world sounds through the daughter’s hearing aid as well as your typical horror movie monster sounds. Roma: Perhaps one of the most unfortunate things about Roma having been financed by Netflix is that a lot of its audiences may well have heard its soundscape for the first time through small TV speakers. The people who got the full theatrical experience learned that this has a much more active surround trach than you would normally expect from a realist drama like this. Curaron really tries to immerse you in the lives of these people and recreate every last sound in their lives. A Star is Born: A Star is Born is mostly nominated here because its musical performances were apparently recorded live rather than overdubbed in an ADR studio. So, the people recording this needed to get the perfect mix of the performers vocals as well as their instruments and the crowd noises while keeping everything clear. That doesn’t seem like it would be an easy thing to do. On top of that the film just generally mixes the music really well and the who movie sounds good. Upgrade: This little B-movie action film from Blumhouse probably doesn’t have the most technologically sophisticated sound technology behind it but it does have a couple of tricks up its sleeve that stood out to me. For one thing the film adds this almost robotic sound effect to the main character’s movements every time STEM takes over the protagonist’s body. Secondly the film has this neat way of making STEM’s voice really stand out in the soundscape whenever he speaks to the main character in his head. And the Golden Stake Goes To…A Quiet Place
This more or less came down to a choice between Roma and A Quiet Place and I almost wish I could give a mixing award to the former and a sound editing award to the latter because they’re both here for kind of different reasons. Ultimately I went with A Quiet Place because the things that make it stand out are just a lot easier to identify after the fact and I’m sure there are some subtleties to the Roma soundscape I’m just forgetting about.
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Post by thebtskink on Feb 12, 2019 21:51:47 GMT -5
I don't feel qualified to judge a film in sound editing/mixing/design because I'm not sure I know how to spot the difference between each.
I will say your winner better win one of those. It was an experience.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 12, 2019 21:57:08 GMT -5
I don't feel qualified to judge a film in sound editing/mixing/design because I'm not sure I know how to spot the difference between each. I will say your winner better win one of those. It was an experience. Sound editors record and assemble sound effects while sound mixers bring them together in an overall sound mix and assign surround elements.
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Post by thebtskink on Feb 12, 2019 22:01:37 GMT -5
I don't feel qualified to judge a film in sound editing/mixing/design because I'm not sure I know how to spot the difference between each. I will say your winner better win one of those. It was an experience. Sound editors record and assemble sound effects while sound mixers bring them together in an overall sound mix and assign surround elements. So what is sound design?
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Post by IanTheCool on Feb 12, 2019 22:04:06 GMT -5
I'd probably go with Quiet Place as well.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 12, 2019 22:08:17 GMT -5
Sound editors record and assemble sound effects while sound mixers bring them together in an overall sound mix and assign surround elements. So what is sound design? That's kind of a blanket term for the whole process.
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Post by thebtskink on Feb 12, 2019 22:10:21 GMT -5
Cool. So now that you've educated me, the choice still seems the best one.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 12, 2019 23:26:11 GMT -5
Team Roma for me.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 13, 2019 19:25:54 GMT -5
Best Art Direction
Art direction refers to the various design elements of a film, specifically the sets, but in my take on the category that also includes specialized props and to some extent costumes. Basically any film that uses practical and design elements to build a world and make it feel real and lived in. Annihilation: Though a lot of Annihilation is set outdoors it still manages to do some really striking things in set decoration at various turns. Primarily set inside of “The Shimmer,” a sort of cordoned off area being effected by an alien phenomenon that distorts and reflects organisms on a DNA level, the film shows a lot of places where plant life is altered and the remains of previous explorer are splashed all over the walls of abandoned buildings in a sort of mutated form reminiscent of John Carpenter’s The Thing. The real standout set is of course the lighthouse, where the final confrontation with the alien(s) occurs, which looks great simply as a building and is also interestingly altered by The Shimmer all over the walls. Bad Times at the El Royale: Bad Times at the El Royale isn’t strictly a one location movie but it is primarily set within the confines and immediate outskirts of its titular hotel so the pressure was on to make that hotel look interesting. The hotel itself is defined by the fact that it sits on both sides of the California/Nevada border, a fact that has no real effect on the story except to give the set designers a motif to build the hotel’s décor around, and it allows them to add some neat touches like the keychains that depict both states depending on where the guests are staying. On top of that the film gets the hotel’s art deco look right and also makes the hotel look appropriately run down. Black Panther: “Afrofuturism” is a term that was coined in 1994 to describe a form of multimedia speculative fiction that long pre-dated the coinage of its name and uses futuristic concepts and images within the context of the culture of the African diaspora. It’s something that’s popped up a lot in music and literature but the Wakanda of Black Panther is the first time that Afrofuturism has really been brought to the big screen, at least on this scale. The way the film builds a futuristic city using African cultural elements is unlike anything that had been done previously and was something of a revelation. Cold War: Cold War had a pretty clear mission: recreate Europe during the middle of the twentieth century but it needed to do it in a very detailed way which captures certain ideas in a very quick way. The film is set in a number of places from Poland to East Berlin to Italy to Paris and the film’s sets and location scouts need to capture the mood and feel of all of these places without really having a whole lot of time to do so. Perhaps most striking are its glimpses of the propaganda filled coldness of the east side of the iron curtain, but it also makes the nightclubs and recording studios of the west side feel appropriately cool. A Quiet Place: A Quite Place is at heart a post-apocalyptic movie that’s built around people needing to build a home that’s devoid of sound and that gives the set decorators a chance to come up with all sorts of clever touches that these survivors may have come up with. For example, we see people spreading sand along the ground to accommodate barefoot walking and creaky floorboards are marked in order to keep people from stepping on them. There are other little touches you can observe as well like the fact that the only thing that hasn’t been looted from a local convenience store are the potato chips. And the Golden Stake Goes To…
Black PantherMy ultimate decision to give this award to Black Panther came down to the fact that, of all the nominees here this is the one that was most elevated by its art direction. The differences between this movie and the other Marvel Cinematic Universe are not as vast as some people make them out to be but a couple of things do stand out about it and the main one is the design of its locations and other aspects of Wakandan life like the weapons being used and the technologies in play.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 14, 2019 20:47:11 GMT -5
Best Original ScoreThe Best Original Score category is always a category I work extra hard on, in part because it’s one I struggle with. I’ve never been the biggest score guy in the world and I’m not always paying the closest attention to the score when I go to a movie and I don’t always keep track of the biggest composers in the field. As such I tend to gravitate toward less traditional scores that really stand out. Annihilation: An oft under discussed musical elements of Stanley Kubrick’s 2001: A Space Odyssey are the two pieces by György Ligeti that score the monolith and star gate and really give a sense of dangerous mystery to the alien elements of the movie. For the Annihilation score composer Ben Salisbury and Portishead bandmember Geoff Barrow have taken that style as a jumping off point. Much of the film’s score is subtle and atmospheric but it really becomes something amazing toward the end, where it almost starts to blend with the film itself and act as a sort of language for the aliens in the movie. Blackkklansman: Blackkklansman is a movie that often walks the line between serious police movie and full on satire and for his score Terence Blanchard opted to emphasize the film’s dramatic elements and gave it a very tense and oddly grandiose main theme which incorporates both orchestral elements and some electric guitar parts. These theme does tend to repeat itself quite a bit throughout the film in various forms but it never really gets old. Eighth Grade: For the score to the film Eighth Grade Bo Burnham hired the Scottish experimental electronica artist Anna Meredith, who provides the film with a rather maximalist set of tunes. The music isn’t omnipresent in the movie as there are definitely silent passages of the film, particularly during the more dialogue heavy scenes but during some of Kayla’s quitter moments Meredith’s music really dials up and acts almost as s manifestation of the arguments going on in her head. If Beale Street Could Talk: Of the five nominees here this is the one that hues the closest to the traditions of traditional classical music. Composed by Nicholas Britell, who is becoming a major rising star in the world of film music and also did the score to Vice this year. The score makes use of strings to give it something of the sound of a funeral requiem at times but there is consistently an undercurrent of hope. Like a lot of things in If Beale Street Could Talk it’s a bit of an extension of the work that was started on Moonlight and it really helps enhance some of the film’s emotions. Suspiria: The inaugural Golden Stakes was in 2007, which means that it was there for the debut film score of the Radiohead guitarist Johnny Greenwood: There Will Be Blood. This year we get the first major score from his bandmate Thom Yorke and he didn’t exactly give himself the easiest first assignment. Goblin’s score for the original Suspiria is rather iconic, so Yorke needed to do something that would be compared to that for better or worse and went in a very different direction. Rather than trying to do something overly synthy the best moments in his score take advantage of very stark piano playing and fit the dance academy setting well. And the Golden Stake Goes To…
I don't know about this one... SuspiriaThis is not the result I expected going into this. I listened to all of these scores on Spotify before making my final choice and the score that had the most memorable themes, most variety, and which probably most enhanced the film turns out to have been this one. It’s also a little strange to be giving this award to yet another Radiohead guy given that I’m not the world’s biggest fan of that band (at least not of their post Kid A material) and that this movie had a lot of baggage to live up to. However certain tracks like “Volk” and “Suspirium” simply stand out too much and feel hard not to award.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 14, 2019 21:36:15 GMT -5
Wow. I would have assumed Annihilation or Beale Street.
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Post by IanTheCool on Feb 14, 2019 22:31:47 GMT -5
I really liked the First Man score. I also like Black klansman's.
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Post by thebtskink on Feb 14, 2019 22:48:08 GMT -5
Annihilation is well worthy of its nom I don't remember or haven't seen the rest.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 15, 2019 7:06:08 GMT -5
Wow. I would have assumed Annihilation or Beale Street. With Annihilation the music at the end is awesome, if the rest of the score had been that great it would have won easily, but the earlier stuff is kind of minimal and didn't really stand out to me. Beale Street maybe suffered from the fact that I was sort of judging the music removed from context. If I went back to watch it I might realize I made a mistake.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 15, 2019 7:44:04 GMT -5
Need to speed up on this Best Soundtrack
The title is a bit misleading but the “Best Soundtrack” category is meant to be for the best use of pre-existing source music throughout a movie. It is NOT meant to have anything to do with what the music is like in the format of an album and it is NOT meant to cover soundtracks like Black Panther, A Star is Born, or Spider-Man: Into the Spider-verse which primarily consists of music that was newly recorded for the movie. Bad Times At the El Royale: Bad Times at the El Royale is a movie set in 1969 and there are a lot of clichéd directions you could go with a soundtrack to a movie with a setting like that but Drew Goddard clearly did his homework and found ways to soundtrack the movie without dipping into the usual pile of “60s greatest hits.” About the only obvious choices here are Deep Purple’s “Hush” and maybe “Bend Me, Shape Me” by The American Breed, the rest are more obscure songs from the era witch fit well with the film’s Southwest art deco trappings. Crazy Rich Asians: I wouldn’t say that the Crazy Rich Asians soundtrack is the most diverse set of music but it did have one central idea that stood out. To create the soundtrack Jon Chu looked up a list of songs about money and found Chinese cover versions of those songs. While they never quite found a place in the movie for the Chinese version of Gold Digger that they found they were able to find places for Chinese covers of “Money (That’s What I Want)” and “Material Girl.” There’s also a Chinese cover of Coldplay’s “Yellow” and a handful of other non-cover Chinese songs to round things out. Deadpool 2: The Deadpool movies have a knack for making soundtrack selections sarcastically. They’ll make some almost embarrassingly on the nose selections like choosing AC/DC’s “Thunderstruck” for a pre-mission pump up song or playing Pat Benatar’s “We Belong” during a finale where a crew is brought together but doing it in a winking way that suggests that it’s really parodying the kind of movies that would make these choices in earnest. At other points it just picks overwrought songs to play during kind of silly scenes like when Enya’s “Only Time” is used when the convoy crashes over the overpass, and at other points it calls attention to what it’s doing in dialogue like in the fight scenes where Skrilex’s Bangarang is playing. Snarky as this all is, the joke song choices do generally still have a way of working in the scenes. The Hate U Give: Where most soundtracks are notable for the way they assemble music from previous decades, the soundtrack for The Hate U Give is notable for the way it captures the music of the now. It includes some 2010s mainstream hip hop staples like Travis Scott’s “Goosebumps,” Logic’s “Everybody,” and Kendrick Lamar’s “DNA” as well as some less popular songs like Pusha T’s “Hold On” and 21 Savage’s “Ghostface Killers.” Also, given that the film’s title derives from Tupac’s notion of T.H.U.G.L.I.F.E. it of course includes some of Pac’s songs like “Keep Your Head Up” and “Only God Can Judge Me.” Ready Player One: Ready Player One is of course a hash of 1980s pop culture references and its soundtrack is part of this as well. This is established right away when the film opens on the synthesizer riff of Van Halen’s “Jump” and continues through the rest of the film. The film features other 80s classics like Tears For Fears’ “Everybody Wants to Rule the World” and Blondie’s “One Way or Another” as well as some slightly less obvious hits like New Order’s “Blue Monday” and Hall and Oates’ “You Make My Dreams.” The soundtrack generally has a way of picking some pretty ubiquitous hits without being exactly the “totally 80s” songs that might jump to your head right away. And the Golden Stake Goes To…
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Ultimately I chose Bad Times at the El Royale simply because it was the one out of all the nominees and felt like it had the most work behind it and was put together by someone who genuinely loved the music he selected. In some ways the film seems to have almost been a setup for making soundtrack selections, they certainly put a jukebox into that hotel lobby for a reason. Still, I must say that this felt like a bit of a default choice because of a weak year and is probably the worst soundtrack to ever win this award.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 15, 2019 10:33:08 GMT -5
Just from the write-ups it seems like you were pretty down on soundtracks this year. The fact that the obvious pop-culture picks of Deadpool 2 and Ready Player One each got a nod maybe isn't a good sign.
I might have given Isle of Dogs another look. It's not one of Anderson's more bustling soundtracks, but there's some memorable stuff there, like "I Won't Hurt You" and the Kurosawa scores it samples.
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Post by frankyt on Feb 15, 2019 10:45:01 GMT -5
Someone's gotta do one of these for tv shows.
Are we doing top ten list this year? Finally have seen basically everything so I'm ready.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 15, 2019 11:34:12 GMT -5
Someone's gotta do one of these for tv shows. Are we doing top ten list this year? Finally have seen basically everything so I'm ready. yeah, I'll try to get that going this weekend. I've kind of fallen behind.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 15, 2019 11:36:02 GMT -5
Just from the write-ups it seems like you were pretty down on soundtracks this year. The fact that the obvious pop-culture picks of Deadpool 2 and Ready Player One each got a nod maybe isn't a good sign. I might have given Isle of Dogs another look. It's not one of Anderson's more bustling soundtracks, but there's some memorable stuff there, like "I Won't Hurt You" and the Kurosawa scores it samples. Yeah, soundtracks were bad this year. I mostly viewed Isle of Dogs in terms of the Desplat score, which had a harder time in a much tougher field.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 15, 2019 20:57:59 GMT -5
Best Editing
Editing is always one of the hardest things to second guess in an awards context. Editing is of course essential to cinema but without really looking at movies scene for scene you aren’t necessarily going to pick up on every trick and without knowing what was left on the floor you’re never really going to know the extent of the accomplishment, but the best you can do is try. Avengers: Infinity War: Avengers: Infinity War is in some ways three movies going on simultaneously: there’s the Captain America side of the story that goes from Edinburgh to Wakanda and there’s the Iron Man side of the movie that goes from New York to the planet Titan, and I guess there’s also the Thor subsection that goes from the Asguardian refugee ship to the Guardians of the Galaxy ship to the forge and then eventually intersects with the Captain America story. The point is that it’s a movie where a lot of stuff happens simultaneously and it’s constantly having to cut between all these things while remaining coherent. It also has to make sense of some very frantic action scenes. The Favourite: The Favourite is probably this year’s best example of using editing for comedic timing. The film is at its heart a comedy but one with a very distinctive look and feel so it needs to be edited like a straight period drama in some places, like a comedy in some places, and at times it also needs to engage in editing that’s uniquely Lanthimos. Sections like the live pigeon shooting require more tense dramatic cutting while things like the dance sequence are clearly cutting for laughs and then there are scenes like that ending that require that special touch. If Beale Street Could Talk: Strong editing isn’t just about quick cuts and action scenes. Editing is also essential to establishing a deliberate and somber tone and that’s what the editing team behind If Beale Street Could Talk had to deal with. On top of that it also had to deal with the film’s somewhat unorthodox flashback structure which needs to go between scenes in the “present” and scene from about a year earlier showing what led up to that situation and making each one of these flashbacks come into the film in a clear and unobtrusive way. We the Animals: We the Animals is a film that’s pretty heavily inspired by Terrence Malick’s The Tree of Life and uses a lot of that movie’s slow montage editing that’s meant to replicate childhood memories. The movie is set over about a year’s worth of time and shows the main children as they experience some moments that resemble more traditional childhoods and other moments that lean toward the traumatic and the editing needs to capture both of these tones while also remaining naturalistic during some of the more impressionistic moments. You Were Never Really Here: You Were Never Really Here is a movie that employs a very slow and ethereal editing style, except when it doesn’t. During parts it really revels in a sort of deliberate pace that really focuses on close-ups of the protagonist’s face and it’s edited to bring you into his head. Then when violence breaks out the editing becomes more abrupt but not in some kind of kinetic music video way, more in a way to emphasize the quick brutality of what’s happening. And the Golden Stake Goes To…
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Admittedly, this is a bit of a default choice. Usually there’s one really obvious standout in this category but this year there kind of wasn’t. In fact I had trouble finding five choices that I was overly jazzed to nominate. Not that it was a weak year for editing in film necessarily but nothing stood out. I ultimately went with this one simply because it was over all the best constructed film of the nominees I came up with. It managed to cut scenes that were sad, scenes that were joyful, and scenes that made a point.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 15, 2019 21:44:34 GMT -5
I think you made the right choice. Although I'm a bit surprised BlacKkKlansman didn't get a nod. Not only does it have a sort of buddy cop energy, but also scenes like the Belafonte section or the ending, which are really well-cut.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 15, 2019 22:17:25 GMT -5
I think you made the right choice. Although I'm a bit surprised BlacKkKlansman didn't get a nod. Not only does it have a sort of buddy cop energy, but also scenes like the Belafonte section or the ending, which are really well-cut. So, I do think there's something interesting about the way the film's intercut chase sequences mirror the editing of Birth of a Nation. However, there is one cut in the movie that bugs the shit out of me. It's a scene where Washington is on the phone with one of the klansman and it's intercut with Adam Driver arriving at the same guy's house. This makes you think these things are happening at the same time and you think he's going to blow his cover, but they actually aren't happening at the same time and that feeling of suspense was just an accident based on sloppy editing.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 16, 2019 9:44:32 GMT -5
Best Cinematography
Cinematography is often viewed as one of the premiere tech categories, in part because film is a visual medium and cinematography is present in pretty much every shot of every film. This year provides a pretty interesting crop of nominees; the first with two black and white nominees and I think the first without a 35mm nominee. Cold War: Łukasz Żal’s work in Cold War is in some ways an extension of his work in Ida but it builds on that in some really special ways. Like that film, this is trying to recapture the aesthetic of mid-20th century European cinema, but it’s not merely a work of mimicry as it also seeks to really capture a romantic look that in many ways carries the film. The film has an almost noir-ish look to it, one that makes these nightclubs and city streets seem like dens of delicious intrigue. First Man: Though this was actually a pretty good year for celluloid film as a shooting medium First Man is the only of my five nominees that was actually shot on film. And strangely enough, it wasn’t even shot on 35mm, it was shot on 16mm except for the final lunar sequence which was shot on full-on IMAX. 16mm was chosen in order to demystify Armstrong’s life and capture his journey in a more down to earth fashion while still capturing much of the beauty of his adventure. The film is in many ways different from what Damien Chazelle and Linus Sandgren did in making their last couple films, but it’s still clearly top notch. If Beale Street Could Talk: If Beale Street Could Talk is one of two nominated films that were shot on Arri Alexa 65 cameras, which shoot in a higher than 4K resolution and are usually reserved for giant blockbuster of Marvel/Star Wars variety. Here it’s primarily used to shoot the characters’ faces with incredible detail and to make the film’s night sequences look really striking and romantic. Cinematographer James Laxton is a relatively young DP who doesn’t have the most robust resume, but his Florida State University classmate Barry Jenkins really seems to bring the best out of him and the two have built on their work in Moonlight brilliantly. Roma: Roma is one of two black and white films I’m nominating this year and where Cold War was a movie that was all about replicating the look of the past this one is more interested in advancing towards a look of the future. Shot in widescreen and on an Alexa 65 camera the film was shot by Alfonso Cuarón himself under the mantra of “what would Chivo do” and is filled with a bunch of the director’s signature extended shots and uses some of the glossiest and most clear black and white photography we’ve ever seen. A Star is Born: At its essence there really isn’t a whole lot about A Star is Born which really establishes it as a particularly modern adaptation, except of course for the filmmaking. This is one of a lot of movies made recently that seek to be both really shiny and glossy while also being kind of down to earth and gritty. Matthew Libatique is something of a master of this “have your cake and eat it too” style and this is one of his finest canvases. The clarity of the digital format makes the live sequences feel like real concert footage but the offstage antics are all really cannily lit and sharp looking. And the Golden Stake Goes To…Roma
This ultimately came down to a choice between Roma and If Beale Street Could Talk, two movies that were shot using similar technology and which in some ways represent best of black and white and color photography respectively. My choice was made slightly easier by the fact that I had already honored the Laxton/Jenkins team two years ago when I gave a Golden Stake to Moonlight in this category, but beyond any urge to spread the wealth Cuarón more than deserves this award both for the film’s stunning look and for the degree of difficulty with which he was able to capture some of these shots.
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